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The ACLU wins one against the Boy Scouts
Indianapolis Star ^ | 11/16/2004 | MIKE ROBINSON AP

Posted on 11/16/2004 5:06:33 AM PST by Captal de Buch

The Democrats win one for a change.

Seething about their openly gay constituents being denied access to the Boy Scouts the legal arm of the left wing, the ACLU, has continued to dog the youth organization.

In an effort to force the Scouts to put homosexual predators into leadership positions the ACLU has sued Department of Defense, the Department of Housing and Urban Development, and the Chicago Board of Education.

It looks like they aren't going to stop until they can get their hands on those kinds.

From the Indy Star.

http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/D/DEFENSE_BOY_SCOUTS?SITE=ININS&SECTION=US&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT

Pentagon to cut off Boy Scouts from bases

By MIKE ROBINSON Associated Press Writer

CHICAGO (AP) -- The Pentagon has agreed to warn military bases worldwide not to directly sponsor Boy Scout troops, partially resolving claims that the government has engaged in religious discrimination by supporting a group that requires members to believe in God.

The settlement announced Monday is part of a series of legal challenges in recent years over how closely the government should be aligned with the Boy Scouts of America, a venerable organization that boasts a membership of more than 3.2 million members.

[b] Civil liberties advocates have set their sights on the organization's policies because the group bans openly gay scout leaders [/b] and compels members to swear an oath of duty to God. The ACLU believes that direct government sponsorship of such a program amounts to discrimination.

The Pentagon said it has long had a rule against sponsorship of non-federal organizations and denied the rule had been violated. But it agreed to send a message to posts worldwide warning them not to sponsor Boy Scout troops or other such groups.

The rule does not prevent service members from leading Scout troops unofficially on their own time, and Scouts will still be able to hold meetings on areas of military bases where civilian organizations are allowed to hold events.

The settlement does not resolve other ACLU claims involving government spending that benefits the Boy Scouts, such as money used to prepare a Virginia military base for the Boy Scout Jamboree and grants used by state and local governments to benefit the Boy Scouts, Schwartz said.

He said the Pentagon spends $2 million every year to prepare the Virginia base for the jamboree, held once every four years. He said the Defense Department also makes annual allocations of $100,000 to support Boy Scout units on military bases overseas and $100,000 to improve Boy Scout properties, such as summer camps.

Attorney Marcia Berman, who represented the Defense Department, declined to comment on the settlement Monday. But Justice Department spokesman Charles Miller said the message that will be sent to bases represents "a clarification of an existing rule that DOD personnel cannot be involved in an official capacity." The original ACLU lawsuit named as defendants the Department of Defense, the Department of Housing and Urban Development, and the Chicago Board of Education. The schools settled, agreeing not to engage in official sponsorship of scouting activities.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Government; Miscellaneous; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: aclu; ban; boyscouts; bsa; bsalist; dod; gay; homosexual; religious; scouts
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To: Noachian
The ACLU must know this, so why do they keep at it?

They seek to destroy America!

21 posted on 11/16/2004 5:38:25 AM PST by airborne (God bless and keep our fallen heroes.)
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To: HuntsvilleTxVeteran

Thanks.

Really, I am heartsick.

What kind of world do these people want?


22 posted on 11/16/2004 5:45:33 AM PST by cvq3842
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To: Captal de Buch

Four years ago, I took a group of Scouts to an international jamborette at Blair Athol, Scotland. It was a wake up call. Only the USA and the Philippines have “boys only” Scouting. The guys were trying to hit on two gorgeous blonds from Denmark, only to find they were a lesbian couple. I held a breakout group where we discussed differences between the Scout Oath and Scout Law in the various countries. Most had taken “God” and “reverence” out. So sad.

We can’t let them win.


23 posted on 11/16/2004 5:48:02 AM PST by FatherofFive
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To: Noachian
The ACLU must know this, so why do they keep at it?

Because they hate religion and will do what they can to destroy it

24 posted on 11/16/2004 5:53:38 AM PST by Mo1 (I'm back to hating Democrats .)
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To: Captal de Buch
If you have an ACLU member as a relative or friend, whatever you do don't leave him or her alone with young children.

These people simply cannot be trusted.

25 posted on 11/16/2004 5:58:05 AM PST by muawiyah
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To: Captal de Buch

We also have a Christian Commander and Chief

Who can take care of this in one fell swoop


The ACLU should sue the govt for installing a Christian president and demand his removal
as this also violates the ACLUs law ...the Separation of church and state...

It is the ACLU's law.....

Because there is no such wording in our constitution....The so called "Separation of Church and State" does not exist

For the DOD to honor the ACLU's claims is dishonest...the ACLU does not run America....

or does it?

President Bush could fix this if he so chooses...

This is exactly the kind of issue that garnered GW the number of popular votes he got

America will back him up on this if he chooses to put the ACLU in their place...

which is somewhere in Soviet Russia or China...as they have no business in the USA

imo


26 posted on 11/16/2004 6:00:39 AM PST by joesnuffy ("The merit of our Constitution was, not that it promotes democracy, but checks it." Horatio Seymour)
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To: Captal de Buch

bttt


27 posted on 11/16/2004 7:00:21 AM PST by Tailgunner Joe
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To: muawiyah

28 posted on 11/16/2004 7:06:24 AM PST by Tailgunner Joe
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To: Captal de Buch
Seething about their openly gay constituents being denied access to the Boy Scouts the legal arm of the left wing, the ACLU, has continued to dog the youth organization. In an effort to force the Scouts to put homosexual predators into leadership positions the ACLU has sued...

Freedom of Association is an unalienable right. Sorry ACLU.

29 posted on 11/16/2004 7:10:59 AM PST by FreeReign
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To: Captal de Buch

ACLU has come out strong for pedophiles, homsexual and heterosexual, and their "right" to molest children. It is one time I totally agree with BOR.


30 posted on 11/16/2004 7:14:41 AM PST by Dante3
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To: cvq3842
If anyone has examples of the ACLU defending Christians I'd love to hear about it.

They have defended obnoxious street preachers in Salt Lake City when they want to yell at Latter-day Saints (Mormons) attending their general conference, confront them on church-owned private property and desecrate sacred items in public.

Does that count?

32 posted on 11/16/2004 7:19:12 AM PST by TChris (You keep using that word. I don't think it means what you think it means.)
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To: TChris

That's the closest I've heard . . .


33 posted on 11/16/2004 7:25:06 AM PST by cvq3842
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To: Captal de Buch
I was out with my Boy Scouts last weekend at the Area Boy Scout camp McKee for a weekend campout. A great place to say the least. One thing that really hit me though is the answer I received when I ask how the plans for a swimming pool was coming. I was told because of the GAY activism that corporate sponsors had pretty much pulled out and that they could not build it. Sad story. The GAYs will not stop until they take this great organization down.
34 posted on 11/16/2004 7:32:42 AM PST by reagandemo (The battle is near are you ready for the sacrifice?)
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To: Captal de Buch

BTTT!

Yeah, it's a fee country. Just keep those religious ideas to yourself, not in public, not with your children, not anywhere near anyone else. "Free" means in your mind only, and even then the liberals want to know what you are thinking, as in "hate crimes".


35 posted on 11/16/2004 7:51:14 AM PST by shellshocked
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To: reagandemo

What can the general public do for the Scouts? I mean, volunteer is one thing, but in what capacity? What do the Scouts need in terms of volunteers? How can we support and strengthen the Scouts?


36 posted on 11/16/2004 7:52:37 AM PST by shellshocked
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To: shellshocked

My suggestion is to call your local scout council and ask them where you could best help them. Our local council puts our a newsletter and each year they have a wish list section. This section is a listing of items which they need such as office equipment and supplies. NOTE do not go through your local United Way to help the Scouts. Go direct.


37 posted on 11/16/2004 8:16:02 AM PST by reagandemo (The battle is near are you ready for the sacrifice?)
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To: Captal de Buch

Seems to me the ALCU is taking the responsibility for the safety of these boy scouts in their own hands. First raped child sues for damages, watch the ALCU deny all accountability.

And watch them pay till they bleed...


38 posted on 11/16/2004 8:39:33 AM PST by American in Israel (A wise man's heart directs him to the right, but the foolish mans heart directs him toward the left.)
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To: Captal de Buch

Am I correct that not one stinking dime of my tax dollars goes to this athiest Democrat organization, the ACLU? Or do I need to contact my congresscritters ASAP?


39 posted on 11/16/2004 8:42:11 AM PST by Lancey Howard
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