[TheBattman]

Where is GW on this? This needs to be on his agenda to take care of.

[bear11]

The AC'PU' will only make the Boy Scouts stronger and more popular.

[Diogenesis]

The ACLU wants all scouts to have an Islam Celebration and Sensitivity Day, too.

[Time is now]

That's why Arlen Sphincter is the wrong choice for the Judiciary Committee.

[fredhead]

Another example of the Communist ACLU trying to destroy anything that teaches our children the correct values.

[atomicweeder]

After the blue states secede, let's make sure there is no ACLU in the red states.

[azhenfud]

May we who are Christians demand our government not engage itself in official sponsorship of THEIR agendas?

If "our" government can neither sponsor (represent) the will of the majority nor sponsor (represent) the dictates of a minority, what good is government altogether but to collect and spent tax monies?

[4woodenboats]

This, of course, is the same ACLU that had to return over $1 million in grants to the government because they refused to promise they wouldn't hire anyone that was on a terrorist watch list.

[odoso]

The FREAKS aided by the anti-American, anti-liberty ACLU have gone to far this time... Something has got to be done!

[caddie]

The irony here is great, because the nation's premier 'military base', West Point, sponsors Boy Scout Troop #1, for the sons of the officers and enlisted who run the USMA. Has done so for the better part of 100 years.

I discovered this on a trip to the USMA. You can go to the museum near the Visitor's Center, and they have a display case showing the easily-recognizable BSA khaki uniform with the Troop number, a single "1", on the deltoid. Very impressive.

[BTW this was maybe the best vacation I ever had, taking my eighth-grade son out to the USMA on a football weekend (Air Force won) in the fall two years ago. The prettiest campus on earth, and the whole school is more suffused with an atmosphere of morality and love of God than even a 'religious' university such as Notre Dame. FReepers especially will love this place.]

Back to the real world: This ACLU action is disgraceful, showing how the gays have no perspective, and no sense of fair play. Only seeking to satisfy themselves. They have no business being around scouts for that reason alone, never mind the perverted stuff.

The homos can not win this battle. Support your local BSA troop and district.

[UsnDadof8]

A Scout Is Reverent.

If the ACLU thinks they can take down the BSA, they are sadly mistaken. Churches ought to be the main sponsors of scouting, anyway. My boys are Cub Scouts (one will be a Boy Scout in 2 yrs) and our HIGHLY SUCCESSFUL troop is sponsored by a presbyterian church.

[cvq3842]

I don't know what the practice is regarding "sponsorship" of Boy Scouts or other groups by government bases. Just giving this a quick legal analysis, though, I would argue that forbidding the government to sponsor groups with a "religious" component, but sponsoring other groups without such a "religious" dimension, is clearly a discrimination AGAINST religion. (Just like Bush's faith-based initiative: my understanding is that Bush is seeking to "level the playing field" by allowing ALL groups, religious as well as secular, to receive government funds for their "charitable" work.) The danger of discrimination against the religious is much, much greater than any danger of a government "establishment" of religion. I thought the ACLU was in the business it's in to prevent discrimination against persons based on their beliefs.

On a personal level, of course, I am disgusted beyond words - or rather beyond words which I am allowed to use on this site.

Hey, if the ACLU wants a fat, juicy target for a government "establishment" of religion, I've got one. A federal holiday, signed into law by Ronald Reagan, named for an American citizen (Columbus was not an "American," and there's no longer a "Washington's Birthday" holiday, merely "Presidents' Day.") This holiday commemorates a CHRISTIAN MINISTER who used the moral authority of his religion to bring fundamental changes to American society. Oh my! Religious groups influencing the government! Isn't that what the liberals are afraid of?

So why is the ACLU not stampeding, immediately, to get rid of Martin Luther King Day?

Don't get me wrong, please. I think we SHOULD commemorate Dr. King. Without going into detail, I think at his best moments he exemplified some of the best qualities of "the American spirit." He gave his life rather than give in to violence or hate. (Wouldn't politics be transformed if we judged people on their BEST moments at least as much as we did based on their worst ones?) Dr. King's legacy is not my point.

But his actions didn't take place in a vacuum. Again, the term "moral authority" comes to mind.

So, if the ACLU sees the "danger" in a base sponsoring a Boy Scout troop, why do they not consider this holiday an impermissible establishment of religion?

My point is the absolute hypocrisy of the ACLU. If you hate Christianity, be up front about it. Don't hide behind legal principles that you don't even follow.

But the more they pull these stunts, the more the US turns red. Literally and figuratively.

If anyone has examples of the ACLU defending Christians I'd love to hear about it.

[FatherofFive]

Four years ago, I took a group of Scouts to an international jamborette at Blair Athol, Scotland. It was a wake up call. Only the USA and the Philippines have “boys only” Scouting. The guys were trying to hit on two gorgeous blonds from Denmark, only to find they were a lesbian couple. I held a breakout group where we discussed differences between the Scout Oath and Scout Law in the various countries. Most had taken “God” and “reverence” out. So sad.

We can’t let them win.

[muawiyah]

If you have an ACLU member as a relative or friend, whatever you do don't leave him or her alone with young children.

These people simply cannot be trusted.

[joesnuffy]

We also have a Christian Commander and Chief

Who can take care of this in one fell swoop


The ACLU should sue the govt for installing a Christian president and demand his removal
as this also violates the ACLUs law ...the Separation of church and state...

It is the ACLU's law.....

Because there is no such wording in our constitution....The so called "Separation of Church and State" does not exist

For the DOD to honor the ACLU's claims is dishonest...the ACLU does not run America....

or does it?

President Bush could fix this if he so chooses...

This is exactly the kind of issue that garnered GW the number of popular votes he got

America will back him up on this if he chooses to put the ACLU in their place...

which is somewhere in Soviet Russia or China...as they have no business in the USA

imo

[Tailgunner Joe]

bttt

[FreeReign]

Seething about their openly gay constituents being denied access to the Boy Scouts the legal arm of the left wing, the ACLU, has continued to dog the youth organization. In an effort to force the Scouts to put homosexual predators into leadership positions the ACLU has sued...

Freedom of Association is an unalienable right. Sorry ACLU.

[Dante3]

ACLU has come out strong for pedophiles, homsexual and heterosexual, and their "right" to molest children. It is one time I totally agree with BOR.

[reagandemo]

I was out with my Boy Scouts last weekend at the Area Boy Scout camp McKee for a weekend campout. A great place to say the least. One thing that really hit me though is the answer I received when I ask how the plans for a swimming pool was coming. I was told because of the GAY activism that corporate sponsors had pretty much pulled out and that they could not build it. Sad story. The GAYs will not stop until they take this great organization down.

[shellshocked]

BTTT!

Yeah, it's a fee country. Just keep those religious ideas to yourself, not in public, not with your children, not anywhere near anyone else. "Free" means in your mind only, and even then the liberals want to know what you are thinking, as in "hate crimes".