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Pain Ray Going Airborne [HMMV with millimeter-wave beam penetrates skin, water molecules bubble]
Defense Tech ^ | Nov 15/16, 2004 | unknown

Posted on 11/16/2004 7:24:40 AM PST by Mike Fieschko

active_denial_ground.jpgIt was only a matter of time, I guess. First, the Air Force builds a real-life, microwave-like pain ray. Then, it gets a company to strap that real-life, microwave-like pain ray to the back of a jet.

For years, the Air Force Research Laboratory (AFRL) has been working on a millimeter-wave beam that penetrates a 64th of an inch beneath the skin. That causes the water molecules there to bubble. And that hurts like hell; people tend to run -- fast -- in the other direction. Small wonder, then, that non-lethal weapons experts call this "Active Denial System" the "holy grail of crowd control."

Active Denial been tested on people a bunch of times. A Humvee-mounted prototype is about to start undergoing trials. And now, Active Denial is going airborne.

AFRL handed Palo Alto's Communications & Power Industries a four year, $7 million contract, according to the Hilltop Times -- the in-house paper of Hill Air Force Base.

Dr. Diana Loree, the project officer for Active Denial, said four AFRL directorates are involved in developing this airborne capability: directed energy here; propulsion and vehicles at Wright Patterson Air Force Base, Ohio; and human effectiveness at Brooks City-Base, Texas.

Experts from directed energy, as the lead directorate, focuses on the systems engineering and radiating system development, she said. Propulsion directorate experts focus on the airborne power generation and conditioning required for the radiating system. Vehicles directorate scientists and engineers put their efforts toward Active Denial's thermal management and aircraft integration issues while human effectiveness experts focus on biological effects research.



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1 posted on 11/16/2004 7:24:40 AM PST by Mike Fieschko
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To: Mike Fieschko

Awesome...thanks. Our company does some of the human effectiveness research at Brooks and we have been looking at getting involved in the Directed Energy field. Will forward this to the boss...


2 posted on 11/16/2004 7:31:17 AM PST by ravingnutter
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To: Mike Fieschko

Microwave Islamists on high for 2-3 minutes.


3 posted on 11/16/2004 7:34:18 AM PST by GraniteStateConservative (...He had committed no crime against America so I did not bring him here...-- Worst.President.Ever.)
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To: Mike Fieschko
Wasn't there an article on this a little while ago on FR? I recall, as the thing that stood out to me was that they had to develop a generator the size of a beer keg that had a FIVE MEGAWATT OUTPUT. (Or something akin to that...)

By no means am I an electrical engineer, but that, to me, sounds like a HUGE amount of power in a small package...

4 posted on 11/16/2004 7:34:34 AM PST by akorahil (MSM is RIP)
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To: ravingnutter

Reminds me of the government death-machine used to kill the goats with sound-waves in 'Atlas Shrugged'.

Not a good reminder at all.


5 posted on 11/16/2004 7:35:11 AM PST by headsonpikes (Spirit of '76 bttt!)
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To: Mike Fieschko

This is all fine, but I hope it comes with a huge knob you can crank wayyyy past the "SAFE" mark. Does it have a "BROIL" setting?


6 posted on 11/16/2004 7:36:24 AM PST by boycottliberalhollywood.com (www.boycottliberalhollywood.com - www.twoamericas.us)
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To: headsonpikes
Reminds me of the government death-machine used to kill the goats with sound-waves in 'Atlas Shrugged'.

Heh. That similarity didn't occur to me. Wasn't that like a xylophone or piano? The physicist died when it blew up, IIRC.
7 posted on 11/16/2004 7:37:45 AM PST by Mike Fieschko (Stop or I shall be forced to say stop again.)
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To: boycottliberalhollywood.com
This is all fine, but I hope it comes with a huge knob you can crank wayyyy past the "SAFE" mark.

It goes to "11".


8 posted on 11/16/2004 7:39:25 AM PST by asgardshill (November 2004 - The Month That Just Kept On Giving)
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To: akorahil

That is a lot of power... it only takes one point twenty one gigawatts to travel in time


9 posted on 11/16/2004 7:41:21 AM PST by SBOinTX
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To: Mike Fieschko
Medium-rare, please.
10 posted on 11/16/2004 7:41:23 AM PST by boycottliberalhollywood.com (www.boycottliberalhollywood.com - www.twoamericas.us)
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To: Mike Fieschko
...a four year, $7 million contract,

I wish I could have gotten that contract. Directed Energy Weapon, 7 mil, no problem!

"Gentlemen, behold, this tiny brass cannister holds a small charge of a very potent compound. When struck, a small igniter at the base of this cannister will cause the compound within to expand at a tremendous rate; propelling this little lead piece at the front at speeds beyond mach 1! This companion device holds this cannister, and provideds a convenient mechanism for directing the energy (well, really, directing the mass) in the desired area. Makes for great crowd dispersal. As an added bonus, the device even produces a rather loud report, which tends to scare off angry mobs."

11 posted on 11/16/2004 7:48:18 AM PST by boycottliberalhollywood.com (www.boycottliberalhollywood.com - www.twoamericas.us)
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To: Mike Fieschko

Yeah, but how well does it heat up a cup of water, or make popcorn?


12 posted on 11/16/2004 7:48:36 AM PST by babyface00
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To: Calpernia; Revel; Alabama MOM

Ping


13 posted on 11/16/2004 7:48:55 AM PST by nw_arizona_granny (On this day your Prayers are needed!!!!!!!)
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To: GraniteStateConservative

Put it a low power setting and you can sterilize liberals so they can't reproduce and continue to contaminate the world.


14 posted on 11/16/2004 7:49:01 AM PST by fredhead ("Those people who will not be governed by God will be ruled by tyrants." William Penn)
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To: Mike Fieschko
"Brooks City-Base, Texas"

New one on me! But a bit of Googling confirmed my suspicion that the fancy name refers to the old (since WWI) Brooks AFB near San Antonio.

Makes sense to do the application R&D there, because it is the home of the Brooks Aerospace Medical Center...

15 posted on 11/16/2004 7:53:37 AM PST by TXnMA (Although I miss the calamari, I'm still glad to be back home in God's Country!)
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To: Mike Fieschko
Mike,

My guess is that much of the energy would be absorbed/dissipated by mud-brick walls. Otherwise, it would be most useful in flushing islamoterrs out into the open where they can be attacked from above...

16 posted on 11/16/2004 7:58:53 AM PST by TXnMA (Although I miss the calamari, I'm still glad to be back home in God's Country!)
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To: akorahil
I recall, as the thing that stood out to me was that they had to develop a generator the size of a beer keg that had a FIVE MEGAWATT OUTPUT. (Or something akin to that...)

Wow. The size of a beer keg?

17 posted on 11/16/2004 7:59:46 AM PST by Chemist_Geek ("Drill, R&D, and conserve" should be our watchwords! Energy independence for America!)
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To: Mike Fieschko
They should be careful - they could put somebody's eye out!

Seriously, there is a lot of work on using hyperthermia (heat) in cancer treatment, and the lens of the eye is very sensitive. Expect to see cataracts in people who get zapped with this thing.

18 posted on 11/16/2004 8:09:17 AM PST by white trash redneck (Make love, not war. Get married, do both.)
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To: Chemist_Geek

I will see if I can find that article again, but they made it out to be that size, if not a little bigger.


19 posted on 11/16/2004 8:14:56 AM PST by akorahil (MSM is RIP)
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To: Mike Fieschko

I wonder what this does to eyeballs?


20 posted on 11/16/2004 8:21:37 AM PST by Gritty ("We were too naïve in thinking people would exist in society together"-Dutch Immigration Minister)
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