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To: Aquinasfan
IMHO, most of them don't care all that much for politics like many of us in the west, and are very fatalistic.

The problem is societal pressure... you are shunned if you leave Islam or do not tow the line. Islam claims them, not the other way around, and its uncompromising, so if you are from a well known family (as many of my contacts were - and family bonds play a much larger part in Islamic society than ours) or are in a position of influence or a public figure, you are pretty much expected to tow line - in public anyways.

The hardest part is that Muslims do not owe their allegiance to their countries, but to their religion, and fellow Muslims above all else, and are obliged to assist fellow Muslims over the kuffar whether they are in the right or wrong, and once an Islamofascist quotes suras from the Quran, or sunna/ hadiths, to advance the cause of Jihad, the argument seems to end there. There is little further discussion.

Sure, some like Ibn Warraq, Amir Taheri and Ayan Hirsi Ali are brave enough to speak out, but they are a minority and in the case of Warraq, and Ali, had the good sense to leave the cult of death. I can assure you, none of those three would want Sharia anywhere near them.

Muslims overseas also seem to suffer from an extreme inferiority complex due to western dominance, and anything that gives them a "one up" on the west (like 9/11) seems to delight them.

206 posted on 11/17/2004 9:10:07 AM PST by USF (I see your Jihad and raise you a Crusade.)
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To: USF
The "Black Legend" is a drop in the bucket.

Thanks. That makes sense, although it's depressing. It seems like typical cult mentality except on a colossal scale.

Do you see any way that the spell can be broken? Or can Mohammedanism only be contained? It amazes me that historically the Christian world has never been able to roll back Mohammedanism anywhere without resorting to force.

211 posted on 11/17/2004 10:58:03 AM PST by Aquinasfan (Isaiah 22:22, Rev 3:7, Mat 16:19)
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