Me and my Gun

foxnews.com ^ | Tuesday, November 16, 2004 | foxnews.com

[Dead Dog]

What is that? A 20 gauge? What's he trying out for Prom Queen or somethin'. :)


Actually, that is a very cool senior picture. And a very nice nice bit of walnut and steel.

[1Old Pro]

Good shot

[Protagoras]

In that case he has the RIGHT to have his picture in the yearbook the same as all of his class mates.

Absurd.

You yourself stated our rights are not limited to those enumerated.

In your scenerio, all things are rights. In which case I have the right to do anything I choose because rights are not limited to those enumerated. You really need to do better than that.

Does he have the right to appear nude in the yearbook?

[technochick99]

The point is, schools get to decide what goes in the yearbook, or whether to even have a yearbook.

So true. But the schools cannot run amuck in their anti-gun policies. "They" have been following such an approach for years, and they need to be called on it. The schools work to marginalize and demonize guns, and this cannot go on.

[Protagoras]

"They" have been following such an approach for years, and they need to be called on it.

I agree.

The schools work to marginalize and demonize guns, and this cannot go on.

It will go on, as long as people continue to tolerate government schools. In a private school, this wouldn't be an issue in all likelihood.

[technochick99]

It will go on, as long as people continue to tolerate government schools. Unfortunately, I cannot see any sort of change coming down the pike soon.

However, if schools can change policies (eg Halloween and the complaints of a few Wiccans), then "we" can help them change this one. Make it cost enough in terms of bad PR and $$, and they will crumble.

[ArrogantBustard]

This is my rifleshotgun. There are many a few others like it, but this one is mine...

[johnb838]

Ummmm.... walmart has rack upon rack and case upon case of firearms in their stores.

[Protagoras]

Liberals invent rights through the courts, not conservatives.

Suing to prevent school administrators from making decisions about these mundane matters is counter productive. It is a can of worms and you may not like the new "rights" you create.

How many of you would like to see two boys deep kissing each other in the yearbook? That's where it's going you know. If this kind of nonsense is allowed you will rue the day.

[technochick99]

I'm not talking about rights. I am talking about control of the schools being maintained by the community.

[Deguello]

"the weapon"

You need to be more carefull in your choice of terms. He clearly has a firearm in the picture, not a weapon.

If you have to ever make a point to a leftist, you have to be consistant in the difference between a firearm and a weapon.

In many states as is the case in Texas, declaring anything a weapon makes it a prohibited item subject to jail time. The boy has the shotgun as a tool or instrument of his sport.

[PeterFinn]

"Nonsense, he has no such right. No right to have your picture posted exists."

But if he were gay and wanted his grad picture to be of him with his buttless leather pants on some Federal judge would declare it a right.

[Still Thinking]

What the heck are you talking about? Customers taking photos in the store with guns? Why would anyone want their picture taken in Wal Mart? Are they talking about employees and or managers in pictures that might get published? What?

[adaven]

"Maybe it’s not fair but that’s the reality," Greenberg said, adding that "part of our contention is that it could be construed that the school could be endorsing guns."

Our local High School has an indoor shooting range.

[crushelits]

And what if this kid shows up shows up posing next to a 5'8" brunette, that is a "gorgeous" to the eyes?

Or what if the kid shows up next a dragster?

Or what if the kid shows up posing next to a camera next to him, an so on?

[Protagoras]

But if he were gay and wanted his grad picture to be of him with his buttless leather pants on some Federal judge would declare it a right.

The federal judge, if he did such a thing, (and none has so far) would be wrong as well.

But if he does what some here want, a right to have any picture you want posted, then it's on the table. Be careful of what you wish for, you might get it.

[Protagoras]

I'm not talking about rights.

Clearly

I am talking about control of the schools being maintained by the community.

No, you are talking about control of the schools being maintained by the judiciary.

Rights by law suit, that's what the liberals want. You play right into their hands, silly girl.

[Durus]

In my scenario, and the common understanding at the time of our countries founding, is that any power not ceded to the government and any thing that does not infringe on the rights of another is a right.

[Protagoras]

is that any power not ceded to the government and

Real rights cannont be ceded. You (or any group) certainly cannot cede my rights.

any thing that does not infringe on the rights of another is a right.

Bingo.

None of this makes your point that somehow a student has a right to have a photograph displayed anywhere, or even that a yearbook need exist. The yearbook is provided, but is not a right, and the photos are placed there at the pleasure of the group who publishes the book, it is not a right to have a picture displayed there.

Under your scenerio, he could have a pornographic picture of himself there. It would be his right. That is nonsense.

[Durus]

Rights can be ceded. Rights have been ceded. The constitutional powers of the government are powers (ie:rights) that the people ceded.

While it's true that this young man doesn't have the right to have his picture published "anywhere" we aren't talking about anywhere. We are talking about his school yearbook. The same school that his parents pay taxes to support. The "school" decided to publish a yearbook. The school decided made the decision to allow the students to have their own photographs submitted. Then the school decided to discriminate against one student for questionable content namely posing with a firearm.

Is it the students right to pose with a gun? Yes.

Does the student have the right to have his picture taken with a gun? Yes

Does the student have the right to have his picture in the yearbook? Yes all students in good standing can have their picture in the yearbook.

Does the school have the right to not allow the photograph because they don't care for the content despite it's plain legality? Of course they don't

Under my scenario he doesn't have the right to have a pornographic picture there. Child pornography is illegal.