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Wacky California Considers by-the-Mile Driving Tax
NewsMax ^ | november 16, 2004 | Carl Limbacher

Posted on 11/16/2004 11:58:34 AM PST by Kaslin

If you drive a car in California, you could soon find yourself being taxed for it.

That's because the state's Department of Motor Vehicles chief wants to tax drivers for every mile they drive.

Newly appointed by Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger to head up the DMV, Democrat Joan Borucki has long advocated a tax-by-the-mile scheme.

Schwarzenegger hasn't signed off on the plan, but he appointed Borucki. What does that say?

According to the L.A. Times, her scheme would require each car be fitted with a mileage tracking device that beamed a signal to a GPS satellite. A driver's tax would then be calculated based on total miles driven.

The plan would supplant the state's current means of deriving revenue from drivers – the 18-cent-a-gallon gasoline tax.

But the scheme is illustrative of the failure of the liberal-socialist welfare state mentality.

For years, liberal California environmentalists have been pressuring their Democratic allies in state government to tighten automotive emissions and gas mileage standards.

Hence, for years California residents have been penalized for wanting to drive any vehicle larger than a beer can with a motor.

Now that residents have finally responded to all this pressure and penalization by buying high-mileage, cleaner-burning vehicles, the welfare socialists in state government are afraid the current gasoline tax won't be sufficient to maintain the state's roadways.

They can't get the money from other budgetary line items because it's all earmarked for entitlements, such as paying for education, medical care and welfare benefits for the state's vast illegal alien population.

So, the end result is all of those Californians who were pressured into buying and driving tin cans will have done so for naught, as a driving tax generates revenue on miles driven, not gallons of fuel bought.

That means, as one opponent of the plan told the Times, it won't make any difference if a driver is operating a Toyota Prius hybrid or a Hummer.

There are also privacy concerns, say opponents of this scheme. A global tracking system device on your automobile will allow government snoops to monitor you wherever you drive – which may be the underlying goal of this entire plan anyway.

The liberal answer to this constitutional privacy concern is to ask, "If you're not doing anything wrong, what are you worried about?"

Never mind the fact that in America, without provocation, the government has no need or right to track you in the first place.

On another note, the air in California's major cities is smoggy and dirty, with no relief in sight, no pun intended. What's next – a tax on every breath of air?


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Extended News; Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events; US: California
KEYWORDS: mileagetax; taxes; transportation
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Is there a tax the left does not like?
1 posted on 11/16/2004 11:58:35 AM PST by Kaslin
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To: Kaslin
Here - tax my roll of aluminum foil, you putzes!
Can you say "faraday cage"?
2 posted on 11/16/2004 12:00:18 PM PST by grobdriver
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To: Kaslin
The plan would supplant the state's current means of deriving revenue from drivers – the 18-cent-a-gallon gasoline tax.

Bet me.
I doubt they will repeal the gas tax if this passes.

3 posted on 11/16/2004 12:00:26 PM PST by Izzy Dunne (Hello, I'm a TAGLINE virus. Please help me spread by copying me into YOUR tag line.)
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To: Kaslin
If they really want to raise money they should tax by the minute not the mile.
4 posted on 11/16/2004 12:00:58 PM PST by ez2muz
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To: Kaslin

Is there a tax Arnold does not like?

Defeat the Hatch Amendment. I prefer Arnold
on the big screen.

MV


5 posted on 11/16/2004 12:01:37 PM PST by madvlad ((Born in the south, raised around the globe and STILL republican))
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To: Kaslin

Good, they deserve it. They keep sending Leftwing Senators who vote against ANWR and any sensible energy bill deserve to be taxed out the a$$.


6 posted on 11/16/2004 12:01:54 PM PST by faithincowboys
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To: Kaslin

Go ahead and sign off on another tax hike, Arnold. Watch business FLEE the state.


7 posted on 11/16/2004 12:02:09 PM PST by Prime Choice (STFU ACLU.)
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To: Kaslin
According to the L.A. Times, her scheme would require each car be fitted with a mileage tracking device that beamed a signal to a GPS satellite. A driver's tax would then be calculated based on total miles driven.

It's not likely that they mean that each car will be fitted with an antenna powerful enough to broadcast to a satellite. It's more probable that the plan is to include a GPS device in every car, which can determine distance travelled using the GPS satellites, then broadcast a report (probably by data over a cell phone call) to the taxing authority.

It's a common misconception that GPS satellites can track anyone - all they do is broadcast their position, and your GPS device figures out where it is by the angle of the satellites. The GPS device doesn't tell the satellites anything, though, any more than your car radio reports back to the radio station.

8 posted on 11/16/2004 12:02:32 PM PST by SedVictaCatoni (<><)
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To: Kaslin

Cool! Cheap (low-tax) gas for visitors, and the Loonies get to suffer even more!


9 posted on 11/16/2004 12:02:43 PM PST by Atlas Sneezed (Your Friendly Freeper Patent Attorney)
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To: madvlad

I am with you...Arnold on the big screen, ONLY.


10 posted on 11/16/2004 12:02:51 PM PST by elephant
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To: Kaslin

We are losing our rights by the day


11 posted on 11/16/2004 12:03:27 PM PST by Montresor
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To: Kaslin
The liberal answer to this constitutional privacy concern is to ask, "If you're not doing anything wrong, what are you worried about?"

Of course this only applies to liberal schemes - the Patriot Act does not warrant the same argument...

12 posted on 11/16/2004 12:04:02 PM PST by trebb (Ain't God good . . .)
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To: Kaslin
My guess is Borucki owns stock in the company that would make the trackers.

-Eric

13 posted on 11/16/2004 12:05:45 PM PST by E Rocc (Four More Years - Courtesy of the Red, White, and Blue)
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To: ez2muz
If they really want to raise money they should tax by the minute not the mile - ROFLMAO - so true
14 posted on 11/16/2004 12:05:46 PM PST by SF Republican
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To: Kaslin

Everyone in So Cal knows that when we get in our car, we never go anywhere...we just sit there. Takes 1 1/2 hours of driving time to go 16 miles. I'd be all for it if they built a decent public transportation system in this stinkin' town.


15 posted on 11/16/2004 12:06:18 PM PST by sonserae
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They have already done this. It was called "Commuter Lanes", where all people paid for highways that only a few could really use.

The fact that so many people must commute is because they can't afford to live near where they must work. They must do this in order to survive the higher cost of living. So now they want to add another tax on these same people?

16 posted on 11/16/2004 12:06:36 PM PST by TommyDale
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To: Kaslin
That means, as one opponent of the plan told the Times, it won't make any difference if a driver is operating a Toyota Prius hybrid or a Hummer.

If the state does bring a "driving tax" that is monitored by GPS, don't believe for a minute that they won't penalize drivers of heavier vehicles. They'll simply tie the GPS tracking ID to the registered vehicle and bingo they know what kind of car you have and can charge more per mile because the vehicle is heavier.

If they don't do it at first, give it some time. Money hungry socialists don't know when to stop.

17 posted on 11/16/2004 12:06:39 PM PST by American_Centurion (I am the martyrs' bane.)
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To: Kaslin
The plan would supplant the state's current means of deriving revenue from drivers – the 18-cent-a-gallon gasoline tax.

Don't they mean supplement? Does anybody believe the commissars of the PRK will really give up the income from the gas tax?
18 posted on 11/16/2004 12:06:49 PM PST by Little Ray (I'm a reactionary, hirsute, gun-owning, knuckle dragging, Christian Neanderthal and proud of it!)
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To: Kaslin
I pay gas tax on a per-gallon basis. I drive more miles, I buy more gas, I pay more tax. Ergo, I'm already being taxed by the mile.

Further, if I drive an SUV or other gas guzzler I AM PAYING MORE TAX PER MILE than drivers of sedans or of more fuel-efficient vehicles.

So how would this new plan be an improvement? Let me guess:

1. The "tax per mile" would be higher, on average, than the current gas tax is.

2. The penalty-per-mile for driving an SUV would no doubt be higher than it is under the current tax-per-gallon scheme.

And one question: How would out-of-staters be taxed? Their cars won't be equipped with the devices. Nor would trucks from Mexico.

19 posted on 11/16/2004 12:07:54 PM PST by Earl B.
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To: SedVictaCatoni

Actually, can't they get the milage from the onboard diagnostics. Just download the milage when they do the emission testing.


20 posted on 11/16/2004 12:08:27 PM PST by Little Ray (I'm a reactionary, hirsute, gun-owning, knuckle dragging, Christian Neanderthal and proud of it!)
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