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Wacky California Considers by-the-Mile Driving Tax
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| november 16, 2004
| Carl Limbacher
Posted on 11/16/2004 11:58:34 AM PST by Kaslin
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Is there a tax the left does not like?
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posted on
11/16/2004 11:58:35 AM PST
by
Kaslin
To: Kaslin
Here - tax my roll of aluminum foil, you putzes!
Can you say "faraday cage"?
To: Kaslin
The plan would supplant the state's current means of deriving revenue from drivers the 18-cent-a-gallon gasoline tax. Bet me.
I doubt they will repeal the gas tax if this passes.
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posted on
11/16/2004 12:00:26 PM PST
by
Izzy Dunne
(Hello, I'm a TAGLINE virus. Please help me spread by copying me into YOUR tag line.)
To: Kaslin
If they really want to raise money they should tax by the minute not the mile.
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posted on
11/16/2004 12:00:58 PM PST
by
ez2muz
To: Kaslin
Is there a tax Arnold does not like?
Defeat the Hatch Amendment. I prefer Arnold
on the big screen.
MV
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posted on
11/16/2004 12:01:37 PM PST
by
madvlad
((Born in the south, raised around the globe and STILL republican))
To: Kaslin
Good, they deserve it. They keep sending Leftwing Senators who vote against ANWR and any sensible energy bill deserve to be taxed out the a$$.
To: Kaslin
Go ahead and sign off on another tax hike, Arnold. Watch business FLEE the state.
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posted on
11/16/2004 12:02:09 PM PST
by
Prime Choice
(STFU ACLU.)
To: Kaslin
According to the L.A. Times, her scheme would require each car be fitted with a mileage tracking device that beamed a signal to a GPS satellite. A driver's tax would then be calculated based on total miles driven. It's not likely that they mean that each car will be fitted with an antenna powerful enough to broadcast to a satellite. It's more probable that the plan is to include a GPS device in every car, which can determine distance travelled using the GPS satellites, then broadcast a report (probably by data over a cell phone call) to the taxing authority.
It's a common misconception that GPS satellites can track anyone - all they do is broadcast their position, and your GPS device figures out where it is by the angle of the satellites. The GPS device doesn't tell the satellites anything, though, any more than your car radio reports back to the radio station.
To: Kaslin
Cool! Cheap (low-tax) gas for visitors, and the Loonies get to suffer even more!
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posted on
11/16/2004 12:02:43 PM PST
by
Atlas Sneezed
(Your Friendly Freeper Patent Attorney)
To: madvlad
I am with you...Arnold on the big screen, ONLY.
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posted on
11/16/2004 12:02:51 PM PST
by
elephant
To: Kaslin
We are losing our rights by the day
To: Kaslin
The liberal answer to this constitutional privacy concern is to ask, "If you're not doing anything wrong, what are you worried about?" Of course this only applies to liberal schemes - the Patriot Act does not warrant the same argument...
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posted on
11/16/2004 12:04:02 PM PST
by
trebb
(Ain't God good . . .)
To: Kaslin
My guess is Borucki owns stock in the company that would make the trackers.
-Eric
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posted on
11/16/2004 12:05:45 PM PST
by
E Rocc
(Four More Years - Courtesy of the Red, White, and Blue)
To: ez2muz
If they really want to raise money they should tax by the minute not the mile - ROFLMAO - so true
To: Kaslin
Everyone in So Cal knows that when we get in our car, we never go anywhere...we just sit there. Takes 1 1/2 hours of driving time to go 16 miles. I'd be all for it if they built a decent public transportation system in this stinkin' town.
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posted on
11/16/2004 12:06:18 PM PST
by
sonserae
To: Kaslin
They have already done this. It was called "Commuter Lanes", where all people paid for highways that only a few could really use.
The fact that so many people must commute is because they can't afford to live near where they must work. They must do this in order to survive the higher cost of living. So now they want to add another tax on these same people?
To: Kaslin
That means, as one opponent of the plan told the Times, it won't make any difference if a driver is operating a Toyota Prius hybrid or a Hummer. If the state does bring a "driving tax" that is monitored by GPS, don't believe for a minute that they won't penalize drivers of heavier vehicles. They'll simply tie the GPS tracking ID to the registered vehicle and bingo they know what kind of car you have and can charge more per mile because the vehicle is heavier.
If they don't do it at first, give it some time. Money hungry socialists don't know when to stop.
To: Kaslin
The plan would supplant the state's current means of deriving revenue from drivers the 18-cent-a-gallon gasoline tax.
Don't they mean supplement? Does anybody believe the commissars of the PRK will really give up the income from the gas tax?
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posted on
11/16/2004 12:06:49 PM PST
by
Little Ray
(I'm a reactionary, hirsute, gun-owning, knuckle dragging, Christian Neanderthal and proud of it!)
To: Kaslin
I pay gas tax on a per-gallon basis. I drive more miles, I buy more gas, I pay more tax. Ergo, I'm already being taxed by the mile.
Further, if I drive an SUV or other gas guzzler I AM PAYING MORE TAX PER MILE than drivers of sedans or of more fuel-efficient vehicles.
So how would this new plan be an improvement? Let me guess:
1. The "tax per mile" would be higher, on average, than the current gas tax is.
2. The penalty-per-mile for driving an SUV would no doubt be higher than it is under the current tax-per-gallon scheme.
And one question: How would out-of-staters be taxed? Their cars won't be equipped with the devices. Nor would trucks from Mexico.
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posted on
11/16/2004 12:07:54 PM PST
by
Earl B.
To: SedVictaCatoni
Actually, can't they get the milage from the onboard diagnostics. Just download the milage when they do the emission testing.
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posted on
11/16/2004 12:08:27 PM PST
by
Little Ray
(I'm a reactionary, hirsute, gun-owning, knuckle dragging, Christian Neanderthal and proud of it!)
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