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Illinois: Lawmakers reject veto, back bill protecting gun owners
KWQC-TV, Quad Cities ^ | November 16, 2004 | AP

Posted on 11/16/2004 7:01:09 PM PST by concentric circles

SPRINGFIELD, Ill. Illinois lawmakers ignored the governor's objections and voted to give more legal protection to homeowners who use a banned gun to shoot burglars.

The House today voted 85-to-30 to override Governor Rod Blagojevich's (blah-GOY'-uh-vitch) veto.

The Senate had approved the bill earlier, so it now becomes law.

It was passed in response to the case of Hale DeMar, a Wilmette restaurant owner who shot a burglar.

Cook County prosecutors declined to press charges for the shooting, but Wilmette officials charged DeMar with breaking the city's ban on handguns.

Under the bill, someone who shoots an intruder can't be convicted of violating a local gun ban. The bill won't prevent state charges if prosecutors believe the shooter committed a crime.

(The bill is SB2165. On the Net: http://www.legis.state.il.us )


TOPICS: Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events; US: Illinois
KEYWORDS: bang; banglist; demar; gunban; secondamendment; wilmette
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Lawmakers override veto, approve bill protecting gun owners

AP - Rejecting the governor's veto, Illinois lawmakers overwhelmingly voted to give new legal protection to homeowners who use a banned handgun to shoot burglars.

The House voted 85-30 Tuesday to override Governor Rod Blagojevich's veto. The Senate had approved the bill earlier, so it now becomes law.

The legislation applies only in specific and uncommon circumstances, but it became a symbol in the tug-of-war over gun control.

The bill's supporters saw it as a statement of support for the basic concept that people should be able to defend themselves in their own homes. Opponents viewed it as an attempt to undercut local gun laws.

It was inspired by the case of Hale DeMar, a Wilmette restaurant owner who shot a burglar who had broken into his home twice. County prosecutors declined to press charges for the shooting, but Wilmette officials charged DeMar with breaking the city's ban on handguns.

Under the new state law, someone who shoots an intruder on his or her property could not be convicted of violating a local gun ban. The new law does not, however, prevent state charges if prosecutors believe the shooting itself was a crime.

Blagojevich, a Chicago Democrat, vetoed the bill earlier this year, arguing it would encourage people to defy local gun laws. There was no debate Tuesday in the House, but the bill's supporters say people forced to defend their home should not then be put through the trauma of facing charges.

"I think the General Assembly shut down the governor's hunting season on homeowners,'' said Todd Vandermyde, a lobbyist for the National Rifle Association.

About half a dozen Illinois cities, including Chicago, ban handguns, according to the Illinois Council Against Handgun Violence.

The council's executive director, Tom Mannard, said he was disappointed by the veto override. He called it a dangerous overreaction to a single incident.

1 posted on 11/16/2004 7:01:09 PM PST by concentric circles
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To: concentric circles
The incident that inspired this legislation: Man who shot intruder arrested
2 posted on 11/16/2004 7:03:11 PM PST by concentric circles
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To: concentric circles

The gun-banners don't like people defending themselves in THEIR homes. To them that's a "dangerous overreaction." Its too bad IL won't adopt Shall Issue CCW because Madigan and Daley object. Still, a crumb off the loaf is better than none at all.


3 posted on 11/16/2004 7:05:23 PM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: concentric circles

maybe the governor wanted to protect his base(burglars)


4 posted on 11/16/2004 7:07:27 PM PST by Haro_546 (Christian Zionist)
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To: goldstategop

The liberals don't like it because it removes the monopoly that one of their most important constituencies currently enjoys. The criminal class demands this protection.


5 posted on 11/16/2004 7:09:01 PM PST by John Thornton ("Appeasers always hope that the crocodile will eat them last." Winston Churchill)
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To: John Thornton

And somewhere, Sarah Brady is weeping. She'd rather see women die than have the right to defend themselves.


6 posted on 11/16/2004 7:16:58 PM PST by TNCMAXQ
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To: goldstategop

Daley must be fuming. Now citizens of Chicago have some recourse if they must defend themselves at home, in spite of the "little tyrant" and his crusade against law abiding people protecting themselves.


7 posted on 11/16/2004 7:21:16 PM PST by concentric circles
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To: concentric circles
About half a dozen Illinois cities, including Chicago, ban handguns, according to the Illinois Council Against Handgun Violence.

The council's executive director, Tom Mannard, said he was disappointed by the veto override. He called it a dangerous overreaction to a single incident.

Yes, lets wait first till the intruder rapes the wife and shoots the dog before we react.

8 posted on 11/16/2004 7:29:06 PM PST by ClintonBeGone (Sometimes it's OK for even a Wolverine to root for a Buckeye win.)
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To: goldstategop
Still, a crumb off the loaf is better than none at all.

This is an awfully large crumb. It states that to use a gun, even when guns are banned, is not automatically a crime.

You are also correct that the people living in the liberal Mecca of Chicago now have the right to use a gun. I wouln't go out and buy a Wilson Combat $2500 1911, but a decent Kel-Tec or Taurus picked up up at a downstate gun show is a good option now.

OK, technically it's still illegal, but to break an immoral law, is not in itself immoral. Interfering with an individual's right to self defence is immoral.

9 posted on 11/16/2004 7:32:36 PM PST by kAcknor (That's my version of it anyway....)
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To: concentric circles

This is a good small first step.Now what needs to happen is these sentors need to impeach the governor for violating his oath of office to uphold the constitution when he stripped away the 2cd amendment for illinois gunowners. Then after he is gone we need to do the same to mayor ditzy in chicago and while we are at it go back during his entire administation and tally up the number of people that were murdered in chicago while they were unarmed and charge him with that many counts of accesory to murder.Then execute him by lethal injection or even better yet by firing squad


10 posted on 11/16/2004 8:33:21 PM PST by freepatriot32 (http://chonlalonde.blogspot.com)
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To: concentric circles

>>The council's executive director, Tom Mannard, said he was disappointed by the veto override. He called it a dangerous overreaction to a single incident.<<

What did he think of the Brady Bill?


11 posted on 11/16/2004 9:09:06 PM PST by B4Ranch (The lack of alcohol in my coffee is forcing me to see reality!)
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To: concentric circles

yahoooooooooo


12 posted on 11/16/2004 9:14:02 PM PST by TheEaglehasLanded
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To: concentric circles

I'm sure the crooks will be disappointed too, to find armed citizens inside their homes when they kick the door in. It will make their exit less certain.


13 posted on 11/16/2004 9:17:44 PM PST by kittymyrib
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To: concentric circles

Considering he is a left-wing democrat, I prefer to call him, governor blowjobovitch.


14 posted on 11/16/2004 9:34:36 PM PST by punster
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To: concentric circles; Petruchio; technochick99

Finally! Some common sense legislation in Springfield!!!!


15 posted on 11/16/2004 10:39:01 PM PST by NotJustAnotherPrettyFace (Michael <a href = "http://www.michaelmoore.com/" title="Miserable Failure">"Miserable Failure"</a>)
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To: concentric circles
It will be interesting to see what happens to the violent crime rate in the newly liberated cities.

My money says it drops.

16 posted on 11/17/2004 1:48:43 AM PST by Ken H
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To: punster

I say Bag-O'-Shits . . .


17 posted on 11/17/2004 8:51:57 AM PST by Petruchio (<===Looks Sexy in a flightsuit . . . Looks Silly in a french maid outfit)
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To: Joe Brower

Bang List?


18 posted on 11/17/2004 8:58:38 AM PST by Petruchio (<===Looks Sexy in a flightsuit . . . Looks Silly in a french maid outfit)
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To: AAABEST; wku man; SLB; Travis McGee; Squantos; Shooter 2.5; The Old Hoosier; xrp; freedomlover; ...
Wow. Some good pro-gun news out of Illinois.

Will wonders never cease!

Click the Gadsden flag for pro-gun resources!

19 posted on 11/17/2004 9:48:38 AM PST by Joe Brower (The Constitution defines Conservatism.)
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The bill won't prevent state charges if prosecutors believe the shooter committed a crime.

They left a loophole for the socialists.......Stay safe Joe !

20 posted on 11/17/2004 9:52:07 AM PST by Squantos (Be polite. Be professional. But, have a plan to kill everyone you meet. ©)
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