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To: doc30
Won't they simply return to their illegal status and stay?

How can they when they've been registered with the government? Once they're apprehended they'll be deported back to their home country because law enforcement will know who they are now.

28 posted on 11/17/2004 10:05:01 AM PST by BlkConserv
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To: BlkConserv
Once they're apprehended they'll be deported back to their home country

Do you really believe that? How are we going to "apprehend" 10 million people? Will they take their entire families with them? It won't happen.

The only real solution is to dismantle the welfare state and extended medical care for illegal aliens, and to heavily fine the employers who hire them. That's the ONLY way they will start to go home.

32 posted on 11/17/2004 10:13:56 AM PST by janetgreen
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To: BlkConserv

As they're apprehended and deported now? Can you say "catch and release?"


40 posted on 11/17/2004 10:19:53 AM PST by radicalamericannationalist (The Senate is our new goal: 60 in '06.)
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To: BlkConserv
How can they when they've been registered with the government? Once they're apprehended they'll be deported back to their home country because law enforcement will know who they are now.

Millions of foreign visitors who came to the United States on legal visas, and who had to register with our government to get those visas, are now still in the United States after their visas have expired, and our government isn't doing much to try to apprehend them (if they even know where they are because many of these people have moved or are using aliases to avoid getting caught). Anyway, law enforcement knows where many illegal aliens can be found right now (standing on street corners in groups of 25-50 looking for work in most of our large cities) and yet these illegal aliens aren't being rounded up and deported.

44 posted on 11/17/2004 10:30:33 AM PST by usadave
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To: BlkConserv

"How can they when they've been registered with the government?"

How do you suppose anyone is going to get them registered. A guest worker program or amnesty has never stopped the invasion before. 1/3 of our prisons are filled with criminal illegals. Criminals don't register....just like they don't register guns.


DOBBS: Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld is warning of the threat of terrorists entering this country through the same routes as those used by illegal aliens. Secretary Rumsfeld, traveling in South America, warned that enemies look for weaknesses and take advantage of them.

DONALD RUMSFELD: The risk is that some of these human-smuggling routes into our country from this hemisphere could be used just as easily for terrorists. ~snip~
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1281801/posts

Do you think people like the guy below will register??


http://www.democratherald.com/articles/2003/04/09/news/oregon/state03.prt
Last modified Wednesday, April 9, 2003 1:42 PM PDT

Esparza pleads guilty to killing nun


KLAMATH FALLS (AP) - Maximiliano Silerio Esparza pleaded guilty Tuesday to charges that he raped two nuns and killed one of them as they walked and prayed on a bike path last September.
Esparza, 33, was sentenced to life in prison without parole for the murder of Sister Helen Lynn Chaska, 53. He got another 10 years for the attempted murder of the surviving nun, and 15 years for raping the women.

In return for his guilty plea, Esparza avoided a possible death sentence.
In a statement, Edwin Caleb, the Klamath County district attorney, said he offered the plea for several reasons, including the surviving nun's religious convictions. Caleb said he didn't want to force the nun to testify.
"The most obvious reason is the certainty that this monster will be in jail for the rest of his life and never get the opportunity to offend again," he said.
Police say Esparza rode a train from Portland to Klamath Falls about a week before the attack. He visited a strip bar and then attacked the nuns early on a Sunday morning as they prayed on the downtown bike path.
Esparza head-butted one of the nuns, then raped them both while controlling them with the rosary beads around their necks, police said.
Chaska - who went by the name Sister Helena Maria - was strangled by her own beads, according to an autopsy. She was a nun with the Bellevue, Wash., Immaculate Heart of Mary, a small order unaffiliated with the Roman Catholic Church.
Several months before the attack, Esparza was detained and let go by U.S. Border Patrol agents in New Mexico even though he had spent three years in California prisons and had once been deported.
The agents did turn up an old drug charge in Oregon, but Multnomah County passed on extraditing him. The warrant was apparently the only evidence of Esparza's criminal past that surfaced during the checks.
Once Oregon declined to extradite, Esparza was treated like any other undocumented Mexican and was dropped off at the border.




Copyright © 2004 Democrat-Herald


46 posted on 11/17/2004 10:32:40 AM PST by AuntB (Most provisional ballots are from voters not eligible to vote!!! Ask a poll worker!)
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To: BlkConserv
How can they when they've been registered with the government? Once they're apprehended they'll be deported back to their home country because law enforcement will know who they are now.

Aprehended?! You are kidding us aren't you? Heck, our government is [un]able (or more like unwilling) to locate only 400,000 illegal alien absconders ordered deported since before 9/11? That is the same government your referring to isn't it? You really should lay off that funny smelling weed already don't you know.




47 posted on 11/17/2004 10:33:21 AM PST by Ron H. (Amnesty, quasi-amnesty or guest worker, its still all the same thing. Amnesty is bad for Americans!)
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To: BlkConserv
There are 300,000 foreign criminals who have gone all the way through the deportation process, been ordered deported, then didn't show up for deportation and are now at large. The government does not know where they are. They have been fingerprinted, photographed, the government "knows where they live", etc., etc.

_________________________

Mary Beth Sheridan

Washington Post Staff Writer

The Washington Post

12-06-2001

INS Seeks Law Enforcement Aid in Crackdown; Move Targets 300,000 Foreign Nationals Living in U.S. Despite Deportation Orders

Byline: Mary Beth Sheridan Washington Post Staff Writer

Edition: FINAL

Section: A Section

U.S. immigration authorities announced yesterday that they have enlisted the help of law enforcement agencies in a crackdown on more than 300,000 foreign nationals who have remained in the country illegally after they were ordered deported. ________________________

these guest workers are not leaving, and the government will not remove them.

50 posted on 11/17/2004 10:37:30 AM PST by Pa' fuera
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To: BlkConserv

And since when has law enforement started to detain and deport illegals? It isn't happening now so why expect it to happen in the future?


80 posted on 11/17/2004 12:38:30 PM PST by doc30 (Democrats are to morals what and Etch-A-Sketch is to Art.)
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To: BlkConserv
Once they're apprehended they'll be deported back to their home country

I hope you're being sarcastic. ;o)

168 posted on 11/18/2004 9:30:17 AM PST by iconoclast (Conservative, not partisan)
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