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Evangelicals: America’s Taliban
townhall.com ^ | November 19, 2004 | Mike S. Adams

Posted on 11/19/2004 12:55:15 AM PST by paudio

If you think that comparing Evangelical Christians to the Taliban sounds extreme, you might just be a normal American. But if you think that the comparison is valid, you might just be a supporter of North Carolina Senator Julia Boseman. In fact, Boseman’s supporters have just launched a new website making that very comparison. Even worse, they go on to say the following of both Republicans and Christian Fundamentalists: “Hate is their currency. Ignorance is their sacrament. Racism is their communion.”

Julia Boseman’s attacks on Evangelical Christians began months ago in one of the most disgraceful episodes of political passive aggression in North Carolina history. Boseman’s campaign brought her sexual orientation into the race by saying, among other things, “Now is the time that we must elect openly (lesbian, etc.) members to the North Carolina State Senate to protect our rights.”

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial; Extended News; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: evangelicals; gaypacs; homosexualagenda; mikeadams; mikesadams; ncpolitics; retraction; spermbanks; spermdonors; victoryfund
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1 posted on 11/19/2004 12:55:15 AM PST by paudio
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To: EdReform; backhoe; Yehuda; Clint N. Suhks; saradippity; stage left; Yakboy; I_Love_My_Husband; ...

Homosexual Agenda Ping. Wow, this one's awful.
Kind of like declaring out and out war, she is.

Hmmm. She wants to play hardball? I kind of like that idea.

Let me and ItsOurTimeNow if anyone wants on/off this pinglist.


2 posted on 11/19/2004 12:58:57 AM PST by little jeremiah (Moral absolutes are what make humans human.)
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To: paudio

Can you post any more of this article, or is these few sentences the legal limit? Some of us have wretchedly slow dialup...


3 posted on 11/19/2004 12:59:40 AM PST by little jeremiah (Moral absolutes are what make humans human.)
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To: little jeremiah

If you think that comparing Evangelical Christians to the Taliban sounds extreme, you might just be a normal American. But if you think that the comparison is valid, you might just be a supporter of North Carolina Senator Julia Boseman. In fact, Boseman’s supporters have just launched a new website making that very comparison. Even worse, they go on to say the following of both Republicans and Christian Fundamentalists: “Hate is their currency. Ignorance is their sacrament. Racism is their communion.”

Julia Boseman’s attacks on Evangelical Christians began months ago in one of the most disgraceful episodes of political passive aggression in North Carolina history. Boseman’s campaign brought her sexual orientation into the race by saying, among other things, “Now is the time that we must elect openly (lesbian, etc.) members to the North Carolina State Senate to protect our rights.”

In order to win the support of a powerful gay rights PAC known as the “Victory Fund,” Boseman had to meet their “stringent criteria and complete an exhaustive screening process” in order to demonstrate that she was a “viable candidate.”

Translation: Boseman had to a) interject her sexuality into the campaign and, b) make her sexuality relevant by supporting initiatives such as gay marriage. In return she got a lot of money.

But after Boseman interjected her sexuality into the campaign, her Republican opponent took issue with her acceptance of money from the “Victory Fund.” The local Republican party then ran an advertisement objecting to her decision to (homo) sexualize the campaign in exchange for out-of-state money. Their reasoning was simple: Gay lobbyists in Washington do not care about our local schools and North Carolinians don’t care for gay marriage.

The Republican ad pointed out the incontestable fact that Boseman sought to be the first openly gay member of the N.C. Senate. And they did so by quoting the Victory Fund’s internet campaign ad for Boseman. The Victory Fund ad also ridiculed her opponent as an extremist and a bigot for opposing gay marriage.

Here’s where the case gets really bizarre. The Victory Fund removed its derogatory statements about Boseman’s opponent after he fought back. Then Boseman’s supporters flooded the local paper and radio stations with complaints about the “hate speech” included in the Republican ad.

The quote that the homosexual community complained about was taken directly from the Victory Fund website. With straight faces (pun intended), the gay community then accused the Republicans of “hate speech” for quoting their own speech. Are you following this?

Then the local New York Times affiliate decided to jump in and rescue Boseman from the “hate crime” of accurately quoting a true statement made by gay lobbyists. They did this by retracting their previous endorsement of the Republican. They even accused him of “div(ing) in the gutter” for accurately quoting the gay lobby.

To the gay thought police, the truth is not important. It is enough that somewhere, somehow, someone gay was offended by someone who was not gay who might not have been thinking the right thoughts while quoting a gay person. Are you still following this?

And, of course, Julia Boseman won her election. She did it by sitting back and grinning while her opponent was falsely dubbed a “bigot” and a “hate criminal” by hysterical homosexuals and remorseless reporters.

But Julia Boseman wasn’t finished. Next she threatened a lawsuit against the author of this editorial and a number of conservative internet websites. The alleged offense is defamation of character. The alleged defamatory remark came from a sentence in one of my previous editorials. According to Boseman, she and her domestic partner had “their” baby with sperm donated from an unknown source. My article had claimed that it was one of Boseman’s biological brothers.

While all of my sources were consistent (and Julia declined to proof read the article), I have recently been getting contradictory information from the Boseman family. One member of the Boseman family says that the truth is not important. What matters is that I “have offended the Boseman’s” by saying that Julia is raising her nephew.

But now, since the threat of the lawsuit, another member of the Boseman family has named one of the Boseman’s as the probable sperm donor, leaving me to wonder whether the Bosemans will start filing lawsuits against one another in order to spare the family reputation. Maybe this will be done by showing that the father of Julia’s child is unknown, which they consider to be less defamatory than the notion that Julia and her partner are raising a nephew.

The first attorney I called about this lawsuit hung up on me accidentally when he dropped the telephone due to excessive laughter. But the situation really isn’t very funny. There’s a new twist involving some demands that have been placed on me.

Specifically, Julia Boseman has three demands for dropping the lawsuit: She wants a retraction, payment of attorney’s fees, and a public apology.

I have already run a retraction, making it clear that Julia maintains that she is not raising her nephew, but, instead, the child of an unknown person.

But now, I have learned that Julia’s attorney has taken her case for free. So, today, I am mailing a check for $0.00 to her attorney. I suppose that takes care of that. Now it’s time for the public apology.

Julia, I am truly sorry that my previous editorial characterized you as a “nephew raiser.” I am also sorry that many readers of this article have come to the conclusion that you tried to file a frivolous lawsuit against me in order to obtain lawyer’s fees that you never actually paid.

Now, everything is better and readers no longer dub the Senator a “nephew raiser.” Now they are engaged in a heated debate over whether she is serious, which would make her an “extortionist,” or whether she is simply acting, which would make her a “lesbian thespian.” Opinions vary, but the race is still too close for CBS to make the final call.

But there is hope for Julia. Now her supporters are constructing a website dubbing Evangelical Christians as “America’s Taliban.” Clearly, Julia Boseman and her supporters are perfectly stable. But Evangelical Christians are the nuts who are destroying America.

I’m just happy that I decided not to run my recent article comparing Senator Boseman to Senator McCarthy. That would have been a real case of defamation of character.

I think we can all agree that it would have defamed Joe McCarthy.

Mike S. Adams would like to thank the Xytex Sperm Bank in Atlanta, Georgia for assuring him that there is no social stigma attached to donating sperm, even within families. He would also like to thank his Ann Coulter action figure for providing him with wit and wisdom in preparing the present rebuttal. Dr. Adams loves pushing “little Annie’s” buttons. Dr. Adams would not like to thank the supporters of Julia Boseman who have referred to him publicly as a d***** b**. Dr. Adams denies that he is or ever has been a feminine hygiene product.


4 posted on 11/19/2004 1:05:36 AM PST by paudio (Four More Years..... Let's Use Them Wisely...)
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To: paudio
It is time to play hardball. Every time someone decides to bash Christians, we must treat it like any other bigotry. This can no longer be tolerated. How can tolerance be so one sided. If we don't stick up for ourselves, no one else will. We need to call for all those in politics that do not show us the same tolerance they show Jews and Muslims to step down from their positions within their parties. Is that not what happened to Trent Lott when he spoke at that Birthday party for his friend and fellow senator. How long will we allow the double standard?
5 posted on 11/19/2004 1:08:37 AM PST by HappyCapitalist
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To: paudio

Here we go with the attacks from the RACIST FASCIST HATEFILLED LEFT!


6 posted on 11/19/2004 1:10:23 AM PST by GeronL (I thought I was moving today, its been postponed till Sunday, I think)
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To: paudio

we need this creepette's EMAIL ADDRESS


7 posted on 11/19/2004 1:10:47 AM PST by GeronL (I thought I was moving today, its been postponed till Sunday, I think)
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To: paudio

How in the world did this beotch get elected in North Carolina in the first place?


8 posted on 11/19/2004 1:11:46 AM PST by clee1 (Islam is a deadly plague; liberalism is the AIDS virus that prevents us from defending ourselves.)
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To: HappyCapitalist
Judeo-Christian values hold the world together. The question of who the messiah is will be decided fairly soon.

As a great saying goes...

"It doesn't matter what anyone thinks, we will all know the truth and what is correct in the end."
9 posted on 11/19/2004 1:48:05 AM PST by Bandaneira (The Third Temple/House for All Nations/World Peace Centre...Coming Soon...)
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To: paudio
“Hate is their currency. Ignorance is their sacrament. Racism is their communion."

I thought this described evangelical liberals pretty well.

Christians? No way.

10 posted on 11/19/2004 1:56:14 AM PST by Smokin' Joe (I'm from North Dakota and I'm all FOR Global Warming! Bring it ON!)
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To: clee1

Good question.


11 posted on 11/19/2004 2:07:13 AM PST by ThirstyMan
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To: little jeremiah; paudio

Boseman, the lesbian Mad Red Queen screams...."Your 'truth' doesn't matter!!!! 'Truth" is whatever I want it to be at any given moment!!!"


12 posted on 11/19/2004 2:29:44 AM PST by Lindykim
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To: paudio

I just placed an order for Mike Adam's book, "Welcome to the Ivory Tower of Babel." My husband was on staff at a very liberal college..He can tell you stories for days about the irrational thought and behavior of leftist professors. Most of all, they hate America. And, many of them are members of the homosexual/lesbian community.


13 posted on 11/19/2004 2:51:39 AM PST by jazzlite (esat)
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To: paudio

We need to write volumes to and about this "sinator." Let's track down her address. Further, let's blanket our Republican and RINO senators with correspondence to make certain this windbag goes nowhere but out when she's up for re-election.


14 posted on 11/19/2004 5:07:00 AM PST by JesseHousman (Execute Mumia Abu-Jamal)
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To: paudio
Well ... I am not a big religious guy. But the leadership of the Evangelical Christians don't go around planning to hit buildings with planes and driving boats up boats to US Warships.

Mind you there are groups that I have very little support for in the USA and Canada. Especially those groups whose leadership preaches the fine art of family and friends shunning innocent victims of the group who no longer wish to belong. I have friends who have been through this and I have very little respect for a leadership who practices this art.

15 posted on 11/19/2004 5:14:34 AM PST by hawkaw
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To: TaxRelief; Constitution Day

NC Ping?


16 posted on 11/19/2004 5:36:30 AM PST by NCSteve
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To: TaxRelief; Helms; 100%FEDUP; 2ndMostConservativeBrdMember; ~Vor~; A2J; a4drvr; Adder; Aegedius; ...

NC *Ping* (Mike Adams' latest)

Please FRmail Constitution Day, TaxRelief OR Helms if you want to be added to or removed from this North Carolina ping list.
17 posted on 11/19/2004 5:38:00 AM PST by Constitution Day
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To: Constitution Day
... and North Carolinians don’t care for gay marriage.

Got that right!

18 posted on 11/19/2004 5:45:20 AM PST by Petes Sandy Girl (~*~ W 2 ... The Legacy! ~*~)
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To: HappyCapitalist

bump!


19 posted on 11/19/2004 5:57:32 AM PST by subterfuge (Hey Dems, don't blame gays, it was your candidate!)
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To: paudio; Tax-chick; All
Mike Adams' previous columns related to this article:

Liberal lawyers and litigious lesbians, Part I [Mike Adams, Forced retraction]

"If your brother is the father of your child..."

20 posted on 11/19/2004 6:49:08 AM PST by TaxRelief
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To: TaxRelief

Thanks! This is exactly like the situation with the law in Australia now. A person can be "defamed" simply by a true description of his/her actions or beliefs. Absolutely insane. Obviously these people know that what they are doing is terribly wrong, in spite of all their protestations of "pride."


21 posted on 11/19/2004 6:51:49 AM PST by Tax-chick (The whole world has gone crazy. Their beebers are stuned and there's no turning back.)
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To: HappyCapitalist

The moral bulwark of Western Civilization is being crushed by the libertine left. Their claim to moral superiority is spurious, and has always been about disestablishmentarianism-----tearing down our morally-based cultural strengths. Their religious-hating politics are calculated to destroy, as their oft-repeated agenda demonstrates:

THE LIBERAL CREDO

1. Capitalism creates oppression; government creates opportunity.


2. Traditional gender roles are artificial but feminism and homosexuality are government-protected lifestyles.

3. Self-esteem is paramount; government must undertake
to guarantee each citizen-victim self-esteem no matter the cost.

4. The ACLU is good, because destroying religion and silencing believers are protected by the Constitution and the First Amendment; The NRA is bad because it defends the Constitution.

5. Standardized IQ tests are racist; racial quotas and affirmative action are not.

6. Conservatives are racists; everybody knows that Black people can't make it on their own without big-buck government assistance programs and Hollyweirdos to proselytize the message 24/7.

7. Normal sex is perverted. Threesomes, bestiality, necrophilia, homosexuality are just new ways to get a thrill.

8. Moral indignation is a liberal's standard strategy for endowing our output with superiority. 9. Victimization is our basic belief by which we blame and find others responsible for our own personal failures, then expect taxpayers, deep-pocketed individuals, or the courts to bail us out. It feels good to be in the throes of
"victimization" and either A) causing victims, B) concocting victims, C) playing victim, D) commiserating over victims, or E) creating another class of victims to bleed over.


10. It's a liberal's duty to treat Middle America in the manner of raising mushrooms, that is to say, keep them in the dark and feed them lots of horse manure.


22 posted on 11/19/2004 7:15:19 AM PST by Liz (The man who establishes the reputation of rising at dawn, can sleep til noon.)
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To: little jeremiah

Julia Boseman is another hate filled gay maggot. She hates Christians, republicans and conservatives:


AfterEllen.com - Sexuality No Big Deal in Coverage of Openly Gay and Transgender Candidates
... Democrat Julia Boseman, running for North Carolina State Senate, is one of the few openly ... The truth is ... Julia Boseman seeks to be the first openly gay or lesbian State ...

Below is the search on this vile gay lesbo:

http://search.yahoo.com/bin/search?p=Julia%20Boseman%20Gay
www.afterellen.com/People/112004/candidates.html - 33k - Cached - More from this site


23 posted on 11/19/2004 7:23:19 AM PST by Grampa Dave (FNC/ABCNNBCBS & the MSM fishwraps are the Rathering Fraudcasters of America!)
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To: paudio

Does anyone have a link to the supporters' website that Mike Adams refers to in the article?


24 posted on 11/19/2004 7:44:53 AM PST by Unam Sanctam
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To: paudio

We live in times of moral insanity.


25 posted on 11/19/2004 7:50:54 AM PST by Manic_Episode (OUT OF ORDER)
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To: Manic_Episode

"It is time to play hardball. Every time someone decides to bash Christians, we must treat it like any other bigotry. This can no longer be tolerated. How can tolerance be so one sided. If we don't stick up for ourselves, no one else will. We need to call for all those in politics that do not show us the same tolerance they show Jews and Muslims to step down from their positions within their parties. Is that not what happened to Trent Lott when he spoke at that Birthday party for his friend and fellow senator. How long will we allow the double standard?"

Yes, it is time to play hardball. It's religious persecution in the United States and the ongoing hatefilled rhetoric is a violation of the First Amendment. Let them say these types of things about any other group and they would be sued, but the Christians won't do anything as usual to protect their God given right.


26 posted on 11/19/2004 8:01:24 AM PST by EBH (A very proud Aunt of a US Marine in Fallujah)
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To: paudio

Well why not elect Lesbos, etc., to the NC legislature, we apparently already have representatives from every other group of missfits, such as mentally, morally, mutated, misinformed, disinformed, malformed, evoluted, inflated, deflated, constipated, doubledated, overrated, underrated, carbondated, blinddated, and irritating as hell.

Bring them all on. All except those showing any indication of a slant toward rationality-NC has it's reputation to protect, after all.


27 posted on 11/19/2004 8:13:57 AM PST by F.J. Mitchell (Specter promises not to block Bush appointees, yippee! but will he nuke barriers erected by JC Dems?)
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To: paudio

It is getting to the point now where you cannot even disagree with their political stances (homosexuals) or you are a racist, bigoted, homophobic, knuckledragging neanderthal.

Yeah, that'll make us vote for liberals next time around./sarcasm


28 posted on 11/19/2004 8:15:25 AM PST by trubluolyguy (Pajamajadeen?!!? Hell with that, Freep nude!)
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To: little jeremiah

She wants to play hard ball????? I thought she was a lesbian?


29 posted on 11/19/2004 8:16:05 AM PST by trubluolyguy (Pajamajadeen?!!? Hell with that, Freep nude!)
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To: trubluolyguy

"She wants to play hard ball????? I thought she was a lesbian?"

Could it be that she is a lesbian trapped in a man's body???


30 posted on 11/19/2004 8:20:15 AM PST by F.J. Mitchell (Specter promises not to block Bush appointees, yippee! but will he nuke barriers erected by JC Dems?)
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To: HappyCapitalist

This guy is hilarious, I have tears of laughter streaming down my face!


31 posted on 11/19/2004 8:22:29 AM PST by trubluolyguy (Pajamajadeen?!!? Hell with that, Freep nude!)
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To: paudio

Thanks for posting the whole article.

Un-****ing-believable!

I am speechless. Thank God - and I mean this in all seriousness - that there are men like Mike S. Adams who can and will prevail over d*p s***s like the (entire phrase deleted) Whatsername.

The more the homo-idiots reveal who and what they really are, the more I am happy. Gets the fence sitters off the fence, one way or the other.

There is no neutrality in the culture war. If someone claims neutrality, they need to read up. If they won't read up, then they are a "good German" who didn't want to know what was going on in the cattle cars.


32 posted on 11/19/2004 8:53:34 AM PST by little jeremiah (Moral absolutes are what make humans human.)
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To: paudio

Additionally, this article proves how "gay rights" and all that goes with it absolutely must necessitate "hate speech" laws.

Because to prevail, they must shut up everyone who opposes them. In order for the "gay" agenda to prevail, the government must become a totalitarian dictatorship.

We don't want that, do we?


33 posted on 11/19/2004 8:55:18 AM PST by little jeremiah (Moral absolutes are what make humans human.)
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To: Smokin' Joe

"Lust is their currency, abortion is their sacrament, and sodomy is their communion. Oh, and lies and more lies are the scripture verse of the day."

Lie-berals, especially "gay" agenda promoters. But they've all drunk the same Koolaid.


34 posted on 11/19/2004 8:57:51 AM PST by little jeremiah (Moral absolutes are what make humans human.)
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To: hawkaw

I understand your concerns. I would no doubt be "shunned" by lots of people whose basic moral values I admire.

What is important here is not sectarian spirit (OUR church is the right church, and you're all going to hell!) but seeing the basic moral absolutes that are essentially the same in every religion. You know the idea "divide and conquer". I assert that it is time for all theists - regardless of sectarian differences - to put aside those differences and fight the evils of (a) Islamic jihadi terrorists, (b) Radical secularists who wish to eradicate every vestige of religious expression from our society, and (c) Homo-radicals (which are really part of (b).

If the Islamic terrorists are defeated, but the radical atheists and "gay" rights crowd and their supporters win, our country and indeed the world is just as ruined as if the Islamics win.


35 posted on 11/19/2004 9:02:41 AM PST by little jeremiah (Moral absolutes are what make humans human.)
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To: Grampa Dave

You want on my new pinglist?


36 posted on 11/19/2004 9:04:03 AM PST by little jeremiah (Moral absolutes are what make humans human.)
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To: little jeremiah

Funny you should mention good German and totalitarian dictatorship in those posts. Didn't Hitler use homosexuals (at first) in the Gestapo to help establish power, then turn on them later?


37 posted on 11/19/2004 9:04:13 AM PST by Smokin' Joe (I'm from North Dakota and I'm all FOR Global Warming! Bring it ON!)
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To: ThirstyMan

Did she win?


38 posted on 11/19/2004 9:07:47 AM PST by Howlin (I love the smell of mandate in the morning.)
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To: little jeremiah

Yes, brother!


39 posted on 11/19/2004 9:08:41 AM PST by Grampa Dave (FNC/ABCNNBCBS & the MSM fishwraps are the Rathering Fraudcasters of America!)
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To: paudio
If you think that comparing Evangelical Christians to the Taliban sounds extreme, you might just be a normal American. But if you think that the comparison is valid, you might just be a supporter of North Carolina Senator Julia Boseman.

Maybe some on FR support this woman, because I've seen Christians compared to the Taliban here as well.


40 posted on 11/19/2004 9:08:44 AM PST by k2blader (It is neither compassionate nor conservative to support the expansion of socialism.)
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To: Howlin

Did she win?

Yes, here is the sad truth from the full story: "And, of course, Julia Boseman won her election. She did it by sitting back and grinning while her opponent was falsely dubbed a “bigot” and a “hate criminal” by hysterical homosexuals and remorseless reporters."


41 posted on 11/19/2004 9:10:47 AM PST by Grampa Dave (FNC/ABCNNBCBS & the MSM fishwraps are the Rathering Fraudcasters of America!)
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To: paudio
“Hate is their currency. Ignorance is their sacrament. Racism is their communion.”

I'd say this fits the left a whole lot better. The threats, intimidatation, lawsuits, people with opposing views physically attacked by their goons.

Look at all the Republican Headquartes that were assaulted. Tires slashed on GOTV vans in Milwaukee.

Yup.

42 posted on 11/19/2004 9:11:20 AM PST by drc43 (John Kerry - Best when gone)
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To: Smokin' Joe

Read "The Pink Swastika" by Scott Lively and Kevin Abrams, it should be online in its entirety here: www.abidingtruth.com (sorry it's not a link, you'll have to copy'n'paste).

It is an unbelievable history of Nazism and its philosophical link to homosexuality. Very well researched and documented. Also "The Hidden Hitler" by Lothar Machtan, a scholarly German historian making the case that Hitler was homosexual himself.

Hitler's purge of Roehm and other homosexual SA leaders was not against homosexuals, but against those who wanted his power. If fact, the leaders of the early "gay" rights freaks in the 80s here (ACT-UP people) admitted reading "Mein Kampf" for inspiration and techniques. There is a strong connection between homosexuality, Nazism, aggression and so on. Even in this country, many of the "Nazi party" guys have been homosexuals. And of course, many have been pederasts, which is a long time historical fact.

That's why until the word "homosexual" was invented by one in 1869, homosexuals were universally called "sodomites" and "pederasts" - just neutrally descriptve words. Describing acts, not "communities".


43 posted on 11/19/2004 9:12:01 AM PST by little jeremiah (Moral absolutes are what make humans human.)
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To: Unam Sanctam

http://www.victoryfund.org/


44 posted on 11/19/2004 9:12:24 AM PST by Howlin (I love the smell of mandate in the morning.)
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To: paudio
If Evangelical Christians were like the Taliban this idiot would be dead right now.

DUHHHHHHHH!

The stupidity of the left never ceases to amaze me.

45 posted on 11/19/2004 9:13:31 AM PST by Walkin Man
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To: Grampa Dave

They bragged about that? Hmm...


46 posted on 11/19/2004 9:14:10 AM PST by Howlin (I love the smell of mandate in the morning.)
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To: Grampa Dave

I guess we won't have to wait too long for her to introduce a gay marriage bill, will we?


47 posted on 11/19/2004 9:14:42 AM PST by Howlin (I love the smell of mandate in the morning.)
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To: Howlin

Thanks for the link, but I couldn't find the phrase “Hate is their currency. Ignorance is their sacrament. Racism is their communion.” I did a Google phrase, and that phrase comes up in a few websites, but none seem to be about Julia Boseman specifically.


48 posted on 11/19/2004 9:18:40 AM PST by Unam Sanctam
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To: Howlin

They bragged about their vile actions which was supported by the local mediots.

"I guess we won't have to wait too long for her to introduce a gay marriage bill, will we?'

She will be a kamikazi Gay Rights Agenda Pusher. Anyone who opposes the Vile Gay Agendas she will be pushing, will be labeled as a hateful bigot.


49 posted on 11/19/2004 9:22:57 AM PST by Grampa Dave (FNC/ABCNNBCBS & the MSM fishwraps are the Rathering Fraudcasters of America!)
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To: Unam Sanctam

Actually, after going back, I don't think that's the web stie he's quoting; he's not very clear; I get the impression he means HER friends, not just the Victory Fund, don't you?


50 posted on 11/19/2004 9:28:15 AM PST by Howlin (I love the smell of mandate in the morning.)
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