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Red State Generosity: so much for liberals' claim to be more generous
The Phil Valentine Show ^ | November 10, 2004 | Phil Valentine

Posted on 11/19/2004 6:01:56 PM PST by Mr. Mulliner

Red State Generosity

November 10, 2004

Don't look now but another Civil War is brewing. The nation just re-elected George W. Bush and it's not sitting well with portions of the country, namely the now-famous blue states. There are 19 of them, total. They make up primarily the Northeast, the Rust Belt in the Mid-West and the Left Coast. They boast some of the nation's largest population centers – New York, Chicago, Los Angeles. They don't think it's fair that someone from “fly-over country” is in charge so instead of doing the honorable thing and moving to France with Johnny Depp, they want to take their states and start a new country.

 

Where does all this talk come from?

 

It's coming from the very same people who have spewed the same old liberal rhetoric during recent elections in order to play on our innate sense of class envy. The ‘haves' are made to feel guilty by those purportedly speaking on behalf of the ‘have-nots.' We're taught, first, that we should feel guilty for any success we achieve and, second, that the liberal, compassionate thing to do is to give away that ill-gotten booty.

 

After George W. Bush won re-election (I love to keep repeating that ‘cause it burns those disgruntled liberals up), prominent Democrats advanced the possibility of secession. Democratic activist Bob Beckel told “Fox & Friends” the morning after the election, “I think now that slavery is taken care of, I'm for letting the South form its own nation.” MSNBC political analyst Lawrence O'Donnell concurred. “The segment of the country that pays for the federal government is now being governed by the people who don't pay for the federal government,” O'Donnell whined. In his effort to whip up discontent among the blue states using class warfare, O'Donnell forgot something. The facts.

 

Indeed, the blue states pay roughly 20 percent more than the red states in federal income tax yet the blue states have an average of sixty-one percent more citizens on government welfare. The raw numbers paint an even uglier picture. Despite the fact that there are more people in the red states, the number of people on welfare in the Kerry states is almost three times the number in the Bush states.

 

The liberals will also have you believe they give more than conservatives to charity. Here are the facts. According to the Massachusetts-based Catalogue of Philanthropy's Generosity Index, millionaire-concentrated California is not the most charitable state. The most giving state in the union is – are you ready for this? – Mississippi. That's right, a red state. Their “Having Rank,” according to the index, is 50th out of the 50 states. Their “Giving Rank,” despite their relatively meager means, is 5th . That translates into a generosity index of first place. California, by contrast, is 6th in “Having Rank” and a dismal 17th in “Giving Rank” leaving them in 29th place. New York, by the way, is in 26th place.

 

Here's another interesting tidbit. Of the top 10 most giving states, every single one is a red state. Of the top 25 giving states, every one is a red state. All of the blue states rank 26 or below in generosity. So much for compassionate, giving liberals, eh? The bottom line is this; liberals are for higher taxes but when it comes to helping the less fortunate, without the threat of jail time, conservatives are the ones who step up to the plate.

 

As for secession? I say let ‘em go. With so many people riding the wagon compared to those pulling, it won't be long before they tire of it. Then maybe they'll see red, too.

Catalogue for Philanthropy

Generosity Index 2004

State

Having

Rank

Giving

Rank

Rank

Relation

Generosity

Index

Mississippi
50
5
45
1
Arkansas
47
6
41
2
Oklahoma
43
8
35
3
Louisiana
42
10
32
4
Alabama
38
7
31
5
Tennessee
34
3
31
6
South Dakota
44
14
30
7
Utah
31
2
29
8
South Carolina
40
12
28
9
Idaho
41
20
21
10
Wyoming
21
1
20
11
Texas
23
4
19
12
West Virginia
48
31
17
13
Nebraska
35
19
16
14
North Dakota
46
30
16
15
North Carolina
27
15
12
16
Kansas
25
18
7
17
Florida
20
13
7
18
Georgia
17
11
6
19
Kentucky
39
33
6
20
Montana
49
43
6
21
Missouri
29
24
5
22
New Mexico
45
40
5
23
Alaska
24
21
3
24
Indiana
28
29
-1
25
New York
5
9
-4
26
Iowa
36
44
-8
27
Ohio
32
42
-10
28
California
6
17
-11
29
Maryland
4
16
-12
30
Illinois
10
22
-12
31
Maine
37
50
-13
32
Delaware
13
27
-14
33
Washington
11
25
-14
34
Vermont
33
47
-14
35
Oregon
26
41
-15
36
Hawaii
30
45
-15
37
Virginia
7
23
-16
38
Arizona
22
38
-16
39
Nevada
14
32
-18
40
Pennsylvania
18
36
-18
41
Michigan
16
35
-19
42
Colorado
8
28
-20
43
Connecticut
1
26
-25
44
Minnesota
12
37
-25
45
Wisconsin
19
46
-27
46
New Jersey
2
34
-32
47
Rhode Island
15
49
-34
48
Massachusetts
3
39
-36
49
New Hampshire
9
48
-39
50



TOPICS: Culture/Society; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: bushcountry; philanthropy; topten
Phil Valentine, a Nashville talk show host, came up with this chart and wrote the article after hearing Bob Beckel and other liberals talk about liberal generosity. I think it really should put to rest the idea that conservatives are mean-spirited and selfish.
1 posted on 11/19/2004 6:01:56 PM PST by Mr. Mulliner
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To: Mr. Mulliner

Liberals ARE more generous... with OTHER PEOPLE'S MONEY...

Conservatives are more generous with their own money....


2 posted on 11/19/2004 6:11:58 PM PST by ambrose
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To: Mr. Mulliner

THANK YOU!!!!

I've been waiting for an article like this. Of course liberals will try to debunk it or change the subject when they are confronted with this.


3 posted on 11/19/2004 6:16:39 PM PST by Brian328i
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To: ambrose
Liberals ARE more generous... with OTHER PEOPLE'S MONEY...

Which they spend--not out of compassion--but to get THEIR candidates elected.

4 posted on 11/19/2004 6:16:46 PM PST by John Thornton ("Appeasers always hope that the crocodile will eat them last." Winston Churchill)
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To: Mr. Mulliner

I was waiting for this.


5 posted on 11/19/2004 6:19:13 PM PST by mdittmar (May God watch over those who serve to keep us free.)
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To: Brian328i

No wonder every time I flip over to NPR or PBS they are doing a fund raiser. If it isn't paid for by the federal government, getting the liberals who listen to it to pay for it is like trying to get blood from an orange.


6 posted on 11/19/2004 6:20:07 PM PST by Mr. Mulliner
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To: ambrose
Liberals ARE more generous... with OTHER PEOPLE'S MONEY... Conservatives are more generous with their own money....

Great analogy. And therein lies the difference! :-)

7 posted on 11/19/2004 6:21:26 PM PST by Happygal (liberalism - a narrow tribal outlook largely founded on class prejudice)
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To: Mr. Mulliner

Bookmarked..Good info!


8 posted on 11/19/2004 6:23:39 PM PST by MEG33 ( Congratulations President Bush!..Thank you God. Four More Years!)
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No wonder every time I flip over to NPR or PBS they are doing a fund raiser. If it isn't paid for by the federal government, getting the liberals who listen to it to pay for it is like trying to get blood from an orange. LMAO, yah I'm sure they try to put out a report that shows generosity to National Socialist Radio or PBS
9 posted on 11/19/2004 6:24:04 PM PST by Brian328i
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“The segment of the country that pays for the federal government is now being governed by the people who don't pay for the federal government,” O'Donnell whined

But haven't they been saying for a gazillion years that it's the middle class who is paying the most? Now that the middle class (flyover Walmart Nation country) elected Bush, they're suddenly NOT paying......oh, I'm so confused by Loony Liberal Logic!

10 posted on 11/19/2004 6:27:43 PM PST by Lizavetta (Modern liberalism: Where everyone must look different but think the same.)
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11 posted on 11/19/2004 6:31:33 PM PST by Aetius
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To: Mr. Mulliner

Note that Massachusetts is ranked 49th.

This is some amazing stuff.


12 posted on 11/19/2004 6:38:10 PM PST by Smacky
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To: Mr. Mulliner

ping


13 posted on 11/19/2004 6:38:36 PM PST by IMRight ("Eye" See BS)
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To: Smacky

I noticed that too. In fact, the Northeast is the least generous region of the country, the area where liberalism is probably strongest.


14 posted on 11/19/2004 6:40:02 PM PST by Mr. Mulliner
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To: Mr. Mulliner

Note that he's saying that the red states gave more *as a proportion of income*, not more in absolute numbers. Of course, even the red states are almost half blue, and the blue states are almost half red, so I'm holding out for a better study. Not that it's not a good point. We've known for ages that the wealthy give smaller proportions of their incomes.


15 posted on 11/19/2004 6:58:23 PM PST by ToUpholdAndProtect
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To: ToUpholdAndProtect

Even in terms of pure "Giving Rank", the highest blue state is #9.


16 posted on 11/19/2004 7:22:55 PM PST by HarryCaul
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To: Mr. Mulliner

Yankees!


17 posted on 11/19/2004 7:34:43 PM PST by claudiustg (Go Sharon! Go Bush!)
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To: MEG33

Me too -- bookmarked for future reference


18 posted on 11/19/2004 7:36:24 PM PST by Finny (God continue to Bless President G.W. Bush with wisdom, popularity, and victory.)
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To: Mr. Mulliner

Thanks so much for this post! And I'll bet that this is only the "official" numbers (maybe from large organizations like UW or from tax returns), and probably doesn't account for church giving, the anonymous money you slip into a basket at a fundraiser for the kid who has cancer, helping with the choir trip, school uniforms, food donations for the homeless shelter, clothing donations to the abused women's shelter, or even the giving of your time and talents to those in need. I think if those were taken into consideration, the difference between the givers and takers would be even greater. JMO.


19 posted on 11/19/2004 7:49:30 PM PST by alwaysconservative (It wasn't the GOP who ran sKerry for President and Dems want to think they're the smart ones? LOL!)
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To: John Thornton

Liberals believe that "their efforts to UP the minimum wage" are justification for their habit of under-tipping, or stiffing Pizza Drivers.

Liberal Bastions {like Charties, community theatres, and "Party Phone Banks"}like to demand a discount on large orders. They want 10% to 20% off, then they want to be tax exempt.

Then, they tip the pizza guy $3.00 {MAX} for an order that takes 3 trips to carry in, and costs over $100!

I make nightly deliverys to the local Salvation Army HQ. Their "clients" let me keep the coins {that's fair}. Their hired Rent-a-cops tip pretty well. The Staff & management...they are deadbeats, they want EVERY penny. Then, they are offended when I ask for the Coupon that they told the order-taker would be used.


20 posted on 11/19/2004 8:18:48 PM PST by PizzaDriver (an heinleinian/libertarian)
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