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To: M. Espinola

Also dopn't forget the battle for Vienna in 1683. The Austrians and Germans werfe losing and Islam was about to win. They would have grabbed all of Europe. The Pope had set up a defense pact with the King of Poland, Jan Sobieski. The Polish calvary or Hussars were a formidable foe. The poor but incredibly brave Polish cavalry would be slaughtered a few centuries later by the mechanized Nazis.

Anyway, Vienna was with a day or so of falling. The Poles came crashing through the Muslims lines on 9-12-1683 (note one day after 9-11). The Germans and Austrians also counter attacked against the Jihadists.

The Muslims were smashed that day and would not make another attempt to take over Europe for a while.

How the Europeans have forgotten 1400 years of Islamic terror, conquest and murder is beyond me. The Dutch are at a fork in the road - submit or fight.


19 posted on 11/21/2004 4:34:03 PM PST by FrankRepublican (Boycott NBC & their parent company General Electric for smearing the USMC)
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To: FrankRepublican
The is an excellent historical point which proves Islamic armies were always attempting to penetrate the heart of Europe for conquest. I found these paintings of Jan Sobieski. The battle which resolved the siege of Vienna the Turks lost about 15,000 men in the fighting, compared to approximately 4,000 for the allied Christian forces.
21 posted on 11/21/2004 10:15:41 PM PST by M. Espinola (Freedom is never free)
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