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Workers Can't Sue Postal Officials Over Anthrax, Judge Rules
Washington Post ^ | 11/20/04 | Carol D. Leonnig

Posted on 11/20/2004 11:46:06 AM PST by TrebleRebel

A federal judge ruled yesterday that U.S. Postal Service officials had no special responsibility to alert workers at the Brentwood postal facility to deadly anthrax contamination in the building and cannot be sued by the employees.
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U.S. District Judge Rosemary M. Collyer said she found ample reason to believe that the officials showed deliberate indifference to worker safety by keeping the plant operating for four days after they privately confirmed the toxic spores had spread through the facility.
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Tom Fitton, president of Judicial Watch, said, "We can't imagine that in the end that courts will sanction government supervisors lying to workers about biological toxins infecting their workplace. Let's be clear about the consequences here: People are sick to this day and some are dead, and the courts are saying 'Tough luck.' "

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TOPICS: Anthrax Scare; Front Page News; US: District of Columbia
KEYWORDS: amerithrax; anthrax; antraz; brentwood; judicialwatch; lawsuit; ruling; usps
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To: genefromjersey
Yes, it is always possible for security to be compromised.

But if the goal was to get people to blame the far right, why would they go to such trouble to pin the blame on Islamic extremists?

And if the goal was to stop research into biological warfare, this would have had the opposite effect.

There is no need for a lab.All that is needed is a proper glove box-which can be bought or built.

It is not as simple as that.

Either your hypothetical hippie perps obtained already-weaponized anthrax from their US government source, or else they obtained stock spores - virulent Ames but not yet weaponized.

A left-winger without deep military or CIA connections would not have been able to obtain already-weaponized material, whose existence to this day has not even been acknowledged. I'm not sure a simple glovebox would have sufficed for placing the material in the envelopes, but I suppose they could have obtained brief access to a containment facility. It's obtaining the material in the first place that's the sticking point in this case.

If they instead obtained unweaponized spores, which is a more reasonable possibility, then they would have been faced with the formidable task of developing a weaponization protocol and then weaponizing the purloined spores. This requires a series of experiments over a period of time in an advanced lab facility. It is not credible that this could have been done secretly in the U.S. by some group of far-left-wing rebels.

61 posted on 11/27/2004 10:54:15 PM PST by John Faust
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To: John Faust

THAT I can agree to !
Worth noting: There has been some suggestion the material used to "float" the spores was a substance called "nanoglass",and that the anthrax was prepared in a spray dryer.

I've also read(somewhere or other)a PROPERLY made w/g anthrax would be almost impossible to package,because it would float right out of anything it was placed in (except a covered vial).

Descriptions of what was mailed suggest a combination of w/g anthrax and almost-dry anthrax slurry may have been used.

One of our posters,who used to use the name "Van der Waals" here knew something about nanoglass,but got himself barred because of a dispute with some of the other posters.


63 posted on 11/28/2004 3:35:59 AM PST by genefromjersey (So much to flame;so little time !)
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To: Nes Tona

If there were Israelis bugging the DEA - and there might well have been - what do you suppose the reason was ?
Could it be Israel is one of the primary sources ( Holland is the other) of a popular "rave" drug ?

Nah ! Too simple an answer.


64 posted on 11/28/2004 4:09:36 AM PST by genefromjersey (So much to flame;so little time !)
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To: Nes Tona

So saith Alan Simpson-who apparently describes himself as a "former British Intelligence Officer" ,and who maintains an anti-Bush website. Mr. Simpson seems lavish with praise-for himself-which I imagine is just about required if one rents office space in Washington.

Looking at his website, I see nothing that could not have been gleaned from a ten minute review of the local newspapers-and absolutely nothing that would qualify him to comment on the anthrax murders.


65 posted on 11/28/2004 5:12:03 AM PST by genefromjersey (So much to flame;so little time !)
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To: Nes Tona

Go to : http://www.comlinks.com to get a good look at Mr. Simpson.

What this seems to be coming down to is belief systems.You believe one way;I another.


68 posted on 11/28/2004 6:58:55 AM PST by genefromjersey (So much to flame;so little time !)
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To: Nes Tona; genefromjersey; Khan Noonian Singh; Battle Axe
The weaponized anthrax (the Senate anthrax) had to have came from an advance bio-weapons lab and no where else.

That is why I said that either the weaponized anthrax was purloined in weaponized form or else the perps would have needed an advanced lab and some kind of official umbrella shielding them.

The Justice Department made-up the domestic terrorist theroy in order to buy time.

This does not rule out a domestic theory. It only rules out the "mad scientist weaponizes anthrax in his bathtub" theory. There are other domestic options.

70 posted on 11/28/2004 10:31:30 AM PST by John Faust
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To: Nes Tona

Nes, we (again) have different belief systems.If you wish to believe in a pro-Israeli cabal running the government-fine. It is, I suppose,marginally better than discussions of "mud people" or "militia management",or why risk-averse bureaucrats in the CIA (and the FBI)should be venerated for their failures.

Simpson thinks Richard Clarke was a great man,and, I'm sure,will be helpful in landing him something "worthwhile"-ie: funded by Wahabbi oil money.


72 posted on 11/28/2004 11:46:24 AM PST by genefromjersey (So much to flame;so little time !)
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To: John Faust

John, I certainly agree. There was-in spite of crude spelling and the suggestion of a decade-behind-the-times medicine-a certain level of sophistication involved.


73 posted on 11/28/2004 11:50:32 AM PST by genefromjersey (So much to flame;so little time !)
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To: Nes Tona
Nes, why don't you break the news to the mainstream media ?
75 posted on 11/28/2004 1:11:30 PM PST by genefromjersey (So much to flame;so little time !)
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To: genefromjersey
Come to think of it, Nes,those Zionists control the media,don't they ?

This sounds like a job for the Waffenfabrik SS -or, perhaps, the Geheim Staats Polizei .

76 posted on 11/28/2004 3:35:55 PM PST by genefromjersey (So much to flame;so little time !)
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To: Nes Tona
Of course some have hinted at the possibility of a secret bio-weapons program run by the CIA or military. I find this quite improbable that persons within our government would launch an attack against our own people. It's like saying our government blew up the twin towers and the Pentagon.

Especially when you consider that any "secret bioweapons program" in our government involving more than a couple of people or so would be pretty much impossible to keep secret for very long. People who've been paying attention recently may have noticed that our bureaucracy has more leaks than the Titanic. We can't even fight a war anymore without all of the details being spilled out to the press.

78 posted on 11/29/2004 7:51:19 AM PST by jpl (The tribe has spoken, now for goodness sake, get a life.)
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To: Nes Tona; genefromjersey; jpl; Khan Noonian Singh
911 was never a covert Israeli operation. AQ did it. The Israeli Mossad learned of the plot months in advance and let it happen.

If you are going to consider this option, why not consider that AQ might have been tricked into doing it as part of a false-flag operation? Both possibilities seem equally (un)likely.

79 posted on 11/29/2004 3:29:08 PM PST by John Faust
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To: jpl; Nes Tona; Khan Noonian Singh; genefromjersey; Battle Axe
Especially when you consider that any "secret bioweapons program" in our government involving more than a couple of people or so would be pretty much impossible to keep secret for very long. People who've been paying attention recently may have noticed that our bureaucracy has more leaks than the Titanic. We can't even fight a war anymore without all of the details being spilled out to the press.

It has spilled out to the press, has it not? And to the New York Times even, I don't mean the Mad Cow Morning News.

80 posted on 11/29/2004 3:33:41 PM PST by John Faust
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