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Bush comes to aid of Secret Service agent
AP ^ | 11/20/2004 | AP staff

Posted on 11/20/2004 4:13:02 PM PST by wjersey

Edited on 11/20/2004 7:38:20 PM PST by Admin Moderator. [history]

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To: Barlowmaker
Los Chileanos hablan mas rapidemente!

Way beyond my poor ability to follow what the heck they were talking about. They talk so fast that the translator could keep up with what President Bush was saying. Other Spanish translators tend to fall behind, because it usually takes more words and more syllables to say the same thing in Spanish as in English. Not the lady translating for the the joint press conference.

1,301 posted on 11/21/2004 8:33:16 PM PST by El Gato (Federal Judges can twist the Constitution into anything.. Or so they think.)
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To: TexKat
finally got to see Pooty Poot smile. He always has such a sullen look, as if he is always mad at the world.

If you were in charge of running Russia, with the mess the Reds left, you'd be mad at the world most of the time too. Still Putin does seem to have a sense of humor, or did a few years ago.

1,302 posted on 11/21/2004 8:34:55 PM PST by El Gato (Federal Judges can twist the Constitution into anything.. Or so they think.)
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To: West Coast Conservative
Bookmarking
1,303 posted on 11/21/2004 8:43:02 PM PST by Iwo Jima
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To: Diogenesis
Bookmarking
1,304 posted on 11/21/2004 8:51:48 PM PST by Iwo Jima
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To: Valin

Oh, just some guy who applied for W's job and was thoroughly rejected;) GO W!!!!


1,305 posted on 11/21/2004 8:52:54 PM PST by Frank_2001
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To: Diogenesis

Don't Mess With Texas!


1,306 posted on 11/21/2004 8:55:09 PM PST by Frank_2001
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To: Galena Nevada

Read the blurb on Powerlineblog.com The blogger raises a tin foil hat scenario, but obe worth thinjing about.


1,307 posted on 11/21/2004 9:02:11 PM PST by xkaydet65
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To: ForGod'sSake
Putin's companion didn't appear to be the security type, FWIW.

His translator, I'm sure. But probably still a security and/or intelligence type as well.

1,308 posted on 11/21/2004 9:08:41 PM PST by El Gato (Federal Judges can twist the Constitution into anything.. Or so they think.)
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To: politicalmerc

It's very telling that incidents like this cannot be scripted. There is no doubt we are living in the time of a great man.


1,309 posted on 11/21/2004 9:13:08 PM PST by To Lurk or Not to Lurk
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To: blackie

Isn't he though?!


1,310 posted on 11/21/2004 9:15:06 PM PST by Lady In Blue ( President 'SEABISCUIT' AKA George W Bush)
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To: marty60
I don't trust any of these commie/Islamofascist/socialist/ states

Chile long ago privatized its version of Social Security. Bush is probably trying to find out how, politically, they did it.

1,311 posted on 11/21/2004 9:16:59 PM PST by El Gato (Federal Judges can twist the Constitution into anything.. Or so they think.)
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To: homemom
Actually he did fly the plane about 1/2 way to the aircraft carrier.

I knew that. You or I could fly the S-3 once it's airborne, so it had to be childs play for a former F-102 pilot. Landing on the carrier is a whole 'nother ball of wax though. That takes constant practice, and we still lose alot of Navy/Marine planes and pilots. Though, I'm sure the President would grab a 3 wire most everytime, once he got the training and practice needed.

1,312 posted on 11/21/2004 9:50:10 PM PST by El Gato (Federal Judges can twist the Constitution into anything.. Or so they think.)
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To: Mercat

It seems to me that our man was actually pulling the other two officers/agents AWAY from the door (perhaps as a protective measure to keep them from our President).


1,313 posted on 11/21/2004 9:50:55 PM PST by To Lurk or Not to Lurk
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To: ohioWfan
And yes........I do believe he enjoyed the change of pace. :o)

I do too, but I really liked the look in his eyes as he shook his head and said something. I'd also like to know what that something was. This was just before he straightend his cuffs and put on his diplomatic face again.

1,314 posted on 11/21/2004 9:52:49 PM PST by El Gato (Federal Judges can twist the Constitution into anything.. Or so they think.)
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To: jmc813
My horse wouldn't appreciate your atempts at that.

And mares tend to express their displeasure in such matters by kicking the snot out of the object of that displeasure. I saw it happen to our little stallion who was trying to mount a mare that was considerably larger than him, and while he was on a rope stacked to the ground. Without the rope, he'd have gotten the job done most likely. As it was, he got the hooves.

1,315 posted on 11/21/2004 9:55:42 PM PST by El Gato (Federal Judges can twist the Constitution into anything.. Or so they think.)
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To: CindyDawg
I was looking for a spanish translation. I don't know how to spell the ones I know. All I can find from my books is stuff like "nice to meet you":')

Maybe something like "Bastantes, hijo de una puta!" (Enough son a whore) That will get a rise out of most Spanish speaking males, at least Latin American ones. The Spanish themselves seem to have lost the necessary equipment.

1,316 posted on 11/21/2004 10:10:54 PM PST by El Gato (Federal Judges can twist the Constitution into anything.. Or so they think.)
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To: STARWISE

Thanks for posting this. he sounds like a great guy.

I was born in New Rochelle, so it was a nice read for me.


1,317 posted on 11/21/2004 10:38:46 PM PST by YankeeFan
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To: Lady Jag

No, I definitely can't see Laura throwing a glass... She seems like a classy lady. (o:


1,318 posted on 11/21/2004 10:39:13 PM PST by LibertyRocks
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To: Diddle E. Squat

Well said. I'm sick of them also.


1,319 posted on 11/21/2004 11:10:50 PM PST by texasflower (Liberty can change habits. ~ President George W. Bush 10/08/04)
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To: Mercat

Told who to go away?


1,320 posted on 11/21/2004 11:50:27 PM PST by texasflower (Liberty can change habits. ~ President George W. Bush 10/08/04)
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To: wjersey

First I've read this: the Chileans were also involved in a shoving match with Chinese bodyguards accompanying their President Hu Jintao. The Chileans won that round:

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2004/11/22/wchile22.xml&sSheet=/news/2004/11/22/ixhome.html

"... Mr Bush waded into a crowd of Chilean security personnel to rescue his own chief bodyguard, Nick Trotta, who was being prevented from following his boss into a dinner for Asia-Pacific leaders, part of an Asia Pacific Economic Co-operation (Apec) summit that preceded yesterday's brief state visit.

Mr Bush, hearing Mr Trotta's frantic protests, reached over two lines of people to grab him by the lapel, telling startled Chilean security: "He's with me". Mr Bush then walked into the dinner, shaking his head in disbelief, and straightening his right shirt cuff.

Chilean guards were also involved in a shoving match with Chinese bodyguards accompanying President Hu Jintao at the Apec summit, successfully preventing the Chinese guards from following their head of state into a meeting with Mr Lagos."


1,321 posted on 11/21/2004 11:53:01 PM PST by StayAt HomeMother
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To: Salem

Looking at this picture of the President reaching through this tight crowd I am not sure how he was able to accomplish freeing the SS man from them so easily. It appears from other pictures that the crowd was not even aware that the President was actually there. I really wonder if a miracle took place and Angels helped him accomplish this. They may even have blocked people from seeing the President. Nobody is looking at the President in any of the pictures I have seen of this incident. Can you imagine being assigned to the President as an Angel and protecting him and helping him in this situation?


1,322 posted on 11/22/2004 12:07:08 AM PST by Bellflower (A new day is coming!)
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To: YankeeFan

You're welcome .. what a great guy.


1,323 posted on 11/22/2004 12:15:12 AM PST by STARWISE (America has spoken- what part of Bush won AGAIN don't they get? Pray for the troops)
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To: All

http://www.internet-haganah.us/harchives/003152.html
November 21, 2004

"GWB 1 - Chile 0"


1,324 posted on 11/22/2004 2:14:34 AM PST by Cindy
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To: GW and Twins Pawpaw

he does.


1,325 posted on 11/22/2004 3:35:52 AM PST by TxBec (Tag! You're it!)
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To: Salem; shaggy eel; wjersey; IrishCatholic; SJackson; yonif; Simcha7; American in Israel; ...

Our fearless leader is a fighter pilot.

Once a fighter pilot, always one.

[Stand behind me and you'll be OK!]

Per Adua Ad Asta!

Blessings -- Brian


1,326 posted on 11/22/2004 4:04:16 AM PST by Brian Allen (I am, thank God, a 2X-blessed hyphenated American: An AMERICAN-American - AND a Dollar-a-Day FReeper)
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To: TexasTransplant

Were you looking for Crimson Trace red dots? LMAO! My very favorite laser. I highly recommend it!


1,327 posted on 11/22/2004 6:02:15 AM PST by Proud Conservative2 (We have to be held accountable for our actions.)
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To: Made in USA

That's gotta be my favorite picture of Dubya! Whatta guy!


1,328 posted on 11/22/2004 6:02:59 AM PST by fivecatsandadog
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To: El Gato

The world has changed. Privatising SS does not make nme trust them. They knew our Secret Service Agents. it was an attempt to go mano mano with one of our guys. WHY?


1,329 posted on 11/22/2004 6:07:10 AM PST by marty60
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To: texasflower

I thought that an agent had told Bush to go back in the room. If I were the SS I would really not want the president in what looked like the beginning of a bar fight.


1,330 posted on 11/22/2004 7:00:37 AM PST by Mercat (I call, You hear me.)
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To: To Lurk or Not to Lurk

So the guy in the middle was SS and the other two guys were not?


1,331 posted on 11/22/2004 7:01:20 AM PST by Mercat (I call, You hear me.)
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To: Made in USA

"W" is the first letter in my aphabet... Now I remember why I voted for him.


1,332 posted on 11/22/2004 7:44:36 AM PST by westwingsouth (Vets revenge)
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To: wjersey
There was an article on another forum that quoted one of the Chilean goons saying that Bush was acting "like a cowboy."

YEEEEE HAAAA !!!

1,333 posted on 11/22/2004 8:02:34 AM PST by floozy22 (ThunderThighs/Jabba 2008 - Bring It On!)
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To: Lady In Blue

Yes, he sure is! :)


1,334 posted on 11/22/2004 9:13:41 AM PST by blackie (Be Well~Be Armed~Be Safe~Molon Labe!)
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To: blackie

BTTT


1,335 posted on 11/22/2004 11:31:42 AM PST by 6323cd ("It is prohibited to make use of such emotional signs in a cellphone!")
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To: wjersey

Wanna bet whether Bush would take a bullet for his agents? It might be a natural reaction for someone like him.


1,336 posted on 11/22/2004 12:54:25 PM PST by DallasDeb
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To: Mercat

Thanks for that explanation. That makes a lot of sense.

I couldn't make out much of anything, noise wish of the video.


1,337 posted on 11/22/2004 2:47:36 PM PST by texasflower (Liberty can change habits. ~ President George W. Bush 10/08/04)
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To: Bellflower

Bellflower, in the video, you can see the person who realizes the President is there.

He's on the right side of the screen. After a few seconds you can see him pointing, first at the agent and then at the President.

I can't hear what he says, but I think he might have told them it was the US President.

That said, however, I do completely agree with you that there was divine protection over him. That situation could have gotten bad really fast.

As you said, NO ONE ever really looked at him during the entire thing. Not when he first entered the thing or even as they were leaving.


1,338 posted on 11/22/2004 2:59:47 PM PST by texasflower (Liberty can change habits. ~ President George W. Bush 10/08/04)
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To: Diogenesis

He's got your back. Can you imagine Johnny Nam doing this? Not bloody likely.


1,339 posted on 11/22/2004 3:25:09 PM PST by TADSLOS (Right Wing Infidel since 1954)
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To: Barlowmaker

>>>This is much ado about nothing. But, there are a lot of seige junkies in this forum, and these scenarios feed their need.



http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/nation/la-fg-farc28nov28,0,3731279.story?coll=la-home-headlines

Colombian Government Claims Rebels Targeted Bush
By Warren Vieth and Rachel van Dongen
Times Staff Writer

6:43 PM PST, November 27, 2004

BOGOTA, Colombia — Marxist rebels tried to organize an assassination attempt against President Bush during his visit to the port city of Cartagena last week, a top Colombian official said Saturday.

Defense Secretary Jorge Alberto Uribe told reporters in Bogota that the Revolutionary Armed Forces of Colombia, a 17,000-member rebel group known as FARC that has been fighting Colombia's government for decades, had plotted to kill Bush.

"Through informants and various sources, we had information indicating that different groups of the FARC had been instructed by the secretariat (of the FARC) that they would attempt to assassinate President Bush," Uribe said in a report carried by Caracol Television.

White House and other U.S. officials refused to discuss the reported plot Saturday, and it was not immediately clear whether members of FARC actually attempted to carry out any instructions to target Bush during his brief stop in Colombia.

Bush traveled to Colombia on Monday to assure leaders there of continued U.S. aid in a crackdown on drug trafficking. The stop came after the president's trip to Chile for the Asia Pacific Economic Cooperation conference.

Uribe would not elaborate on the details of the alleged plot and would not say whether there had been any arrests or confrontations between Colombian or U.S. security forces and the rebels. Uribe offered no evidence of an assassination plot and did not say whether any evidence had been recovered.

Secret Service spokesman Jonathan Cherry in Washington declined to discuss the plot outlined by Uribe.

"The Secret Service does not comment or release information regarding our protective intelligence and protective methods," Cherry said. "The Secret Service does not discuss any alleged threats to our protectees."

A White House spokesman also declined to provide details.

"We have full confidence in the fine work of the Secret Service and their work with security officials on the ground when the president travels," White House spokesman Jim Morrell said in Washington, D.C.

Security was heavy Monday during Bush's stop in Cartagena. Security personnel were stationed atop the airport control tower, and several helicopters were circling overhead when the president arrived shortly before noon. Uribe said Saturday that 15,000 Colombian troops were deployed because of the threat against Bush.

Low-flying helicopters accompanied Bush's motorcade on the drive through the city, including two black choppers that flew extremely close to the ground. At one point, the helicopters swooped so low they kicked up a small dust storm, forcing onlookers to cover their heads and eyes. Armed security officers, including some in riot gear, were stationed along the route.

Over the past four years, the United States has provided billions of dollars in aid to help the government of Colombia improve internal security and counter the drug trade. Colombia produces most of the cocaine and much of the heroin sold in the United States. Both the FARC and the country's right-wing paramilitary organizations have ties to drug traffickers, according to Colombian and U.S. authorities.

FARC has made several unsuccessful assassination attempts against Colombian President Alvaro Uribe, including a car bomb attack during his 2002 campaign.

U.S. officials have been impressed by President Uribe, who has launched a full-scale military assault against FARC.

Bush vowed during his stop that the United States will add new money to Plan Colombia, which has cost $3.3 billion since President Clinton began the program in 2000. The package makes Colombia the largest recipient of U.S. aid outside the Middle East.

Last month, Congress agreed to double the size of the U.S. military contingent in Colombia, from 400 to 800. The troops train Colombian forces and help them carry out anti-narcotics operations; they are barred from any combat role.

Times staff writer Vieth reported from Crawford and special correspondent Van Dongen from Bogota. Staff writer Paul Richter in Washington contributed to this report.


1,340 posted on 11/27/2004 7:25:38 PM PST by BurbankKarl
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To: BurbankKarl

I really have come to admire and treasure the sublime gestures of President Bush. Nothing could have shouted "President Uribe and the Colombian people are important to America, you are safe and secure, and here's the proof" like the President of the United States appearing openly and securely next to the Colombian leader as equal partners in prosperity and peace.

That gesture meant everything to Uribe's political standing, and it was an immeasurably vital event to affirm authentic confidence, pride and morale among the Colombian people.

That's how you groom trusting allies and loyal partnerships. Nobody has ever done it like W.


1,341 posted on 11/28/2004 3:58:13 AM PST by Barlowmaker
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To: wjersey

I got this from World Net Daily (http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=41664):

"[Dr. Jack] Wheeler explains that Chilean officials attempted to block Secret Service agent Nick Trotta from protecting the president.

Writes Wheeler: "The attempt was a clear double-cross, because all security arrangements are made and agreed upon for the POTUS (President of the United States) between the Secret Service and host country security well in advance and etched in stone. The Chilean police knew and agreed that Trotta would be with the president, yet they blocked him in a complete surprise.

"Far worse than this was Chilean President Lagos' refusal to have guests at a State Dinner go through a metal detector. No one attends a function with the POTUS, either here in the U.S. or anywhere in the world, without going through a metal detector, and this was agreed to way beforehand in Santiago. At the last moment, Lagos refuses – then cancels the dinner when the Secret Service won’t budge."

Available only to subscribers of To the Point, Wheeler's piece, entitled "Chavez in Chile," goes on to explain the connection to Chavez.

"Ricardo Lagos is a left-wing anti-American socialist whose hero is Salvador Allende, who almost turned Chile over to the Soviets, and a great friend of Hugo Chavez," Wheeler writes. "Was there a plan to slip a firearm into this dinner in Santiago and assassinate GW? No one in Washington is sure – but there is a very frightened and angry buzz of worry that there might have been."


1,342 posted on 11/28/2004 10:39:59 PM PST by KittyKares
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To: Mercat

That's how I viewed it.


1,343 posted on 12/17/2004 8:06:08 PM PST by To Lurk or Not to Lurk
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