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McCain Won't Rule Out 2008 Prez Run
NewsMax ^ | 11/21/04 | Carl Limbacher

Posted on 11/21/2004 9:53:50 AM PST by wagglebee

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To: wagglebee

I do not believe McCain could beat Hillary. He has the wrong temprament, and if he does run he will likely blow-up during the primary. It will be a replay of McCain-Bush; Rudy will beat him like a drum, and McCain will end up bawling to his friends in the media and into his pillow at his eleven acre "ranch" near Sedona.


41 posted on 11/21/2004 10:25:59 AM PST by gaspar
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To: shubi
Antartica used to be a tropical paradise

Poor example, Antartica wasn't at the south pole then.

42 posted on 11/21/2004 10:26:10 AM PST by ASA Vet (Never argue with an idiot, bystanders may not be able to tell the difference.)
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To: Clemenza

Ill be honest I like them both. IU think with McCain my love comes mostly from when I was a Frosh in Highschool, still way to young then and I grew a liking to him when he was running.


43 posted on 11/21/2004 10:26:39 AM PST by NYURepublican
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To: squirt-gun

why this perot comment is true he also gave the Republicans control of the House and eventualyl the senate in 94 with the Contract.


44 posted on 11/21/2004 10:27:45 AM PST by NYURepublican
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To: Clemenza

I agree.

We nedd a CONSERVATIVE FIGHTER with principles.


45 posted on 11/21/2004 10:27:51 AM PST by nanak
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To: ElkGroveDan
A McCain vs. Hillary election will be the flip side of Bush Kerry. Except that this time it will be our side who will be driven only by hate of the other candidate.

All the more reason for us not to hate Hillary. Oppose her, yes. But we see a perfectly clear example in front of us why it's not right or appropriate for us to hate her.

We need to defeat her effectively, completely, and dispassionately, so that the left has a setback that they can't overcome for another twenty years. If we become filled with hate, we will destroy ourselves, not her.

46 posted on 11/21/2004 10:29:30 AM PST by mhx
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To: squirt-gun

Perot had a personal hatred of GHWB that went back to the 1960s. Perot wanted Bush to run an oil company he owned, Bush went to work for a rival and Perot's company lost millions (and this was long before Perot was a billionaire). Perot never forgot that and used his billions to destroy Bush in 1992 (he probably would have tried in 1988, but he knew that would have been hopeless).


47 posted on 11/21/2004 10:29:55 AM PST by wagglebee (Memo to sKerry: the only think Bush F'ed up was your career)
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To: pgkdan
Now that everyone feels sorry for him being a POW, which I do too, we need to get him to explain this.

http://www.namvets.com/Reading/john_mccain_is_no_war_hero.htm
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For years, I was confused by his actions with respect to this issue. He would oppose any POW/MIA related piece of legislation, including the recent Missing Personnel Act, and the bill I sponsored through Fred Upton, the POW/MIA Rescue Act, which would have granted political asylum to any southeast Asian national who brought a living American POW to freedom.

Why would anyone oppose such a bill ... particularly a former POW?

He disagreed with the findings of the 1990 Senate Foreign Relations Committee, which concluded that our government had indeed abandoned some of our men when the war ended. '

Then, in 1991, he was appointed to serve on the long-awaited Senate Select Committee, which was created to investigate the entire issue. Chairman John Kerry wanted to appoint him as co-chairman, but this was greeted by a national uproar from the American Legion, and virtually every national veteran's group in existence who were already suspicious of his previous actions.

U.S. Sen, Bob Smith from New Hampshire was chosen instead, a minor victory at the time by POW activists, .

This particular Senate Committee was single-handedly undermined (in my opinion) by the actions of John McCain. During the course of their several month-long investigation, they heard unbelievable testimony from hundreds of people. No less than four former Secretaries of Defense testified that men were left behind. National Security analysts testified that they tracked the movements of our men long after the war ended. Radio transcripts of American POWs being moved in Laos were recorded in the early 1980s:

There were satellite photos of pilot distress signals taken as recently as 1992, complete with pilot name and authenticator code numbers. Former Soviet Commanders testified that they debriefed our men in the Soviet Union, and even Boris Yeltsin admitted American POWs had been transferred there.

No less than four committee investigators provided the Senators of their estimates ranging from a low of 150 to as many as 600 men who they believed were still alive and in captivity. This doesn't even include the testimony they heard behind closed doors that supposedly endangered our national security.

The conclusions of this committee was that "no credible evidence was provided to support the possibility that Americans were still alive and in captivity," This, despite documents from Soviet Archives that showed that the Vietnamese were holding more than 1,200 American POWs, and released less than 600, John McCain signed his name on this incredibly flawed report.
48 posted on 11/21/2004 10:30:01 AM PST by B4Ranch (The lack of alcohol in my coffee is forcing me to see reality!)
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To: bmwcyle

How is he less conservative than GW?
The only thing I can think of is abortion. One thing about the Roe v Wade issue is, it will NEVER be overturned in our lifetime. It is a straw man for the politicians.


49 posted on 11/21/2004 10:30:27 AM PST by jeremiah (Sunshine scares all of them, for they are all cockaroaches)
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To: mhx

Post #45


50 posted on 11/21/2004 10:30:30 AM PST by nanak
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To: wagglebee
Can't we just relax and enjoy our victory at least until the first of the year? There is probably someone out there that we don't even know about that would make a great candidate. I believe that the last two elections were Divine intervention, and that will happen again.
51 posted on 11/21/2004 10:31:27 AM PST by Coldwater Creek ('We voted like we prayed")
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To: nanak

McCain is still better than Hillary.

A no vote for McCain is a vote for Hillary. Think about it, President Hillary Clinton.

Would all you who are against McCain really consider putting those two back into the White House? I admit he makes me angry at times, but the Clintons make me angry ALL the time.


52 posted on 11/21/2004 10:32:50 AM PST by sarasotarepublican (Politicians are like diapers. They both need changing regularly and for the same reason.)
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To: The_Republican
Return to his conservative roots? You sound like the Democrats trying to return to religion.
53 posted on 11/21/2004 10:34:05 AM PST by Coldwater Creek ('We voted like we prayed")
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To: jeremiah
How is he less conservative than GW?


Kyoto and Global Warming.

War on Terrorism.

Govt over-cite of Private RADIO Broadcasters.

Campaign Fiance "reform"

There are 4 items for you Mccaniacs to think hard about.
54 posted on 11/21/2004 10:34:21 AM PST by MNJohnnie (Next up, US Senate. 60 in 06!)
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To: NYURepublican
The reason those latte liberal yuppies on The Daily Show and the MSM love Giuliani is that he would take the GOP to the Left on the issues that are important to them. They love McCain because he bashes fellow Republicans.

Both men do have their positive qualities. Giuliani was a good mayor on law and order initiatives, but is highly overrated on other issues. McCain is a great critic of pork barrel spending is needed in the Senate.

55 posted on 11/21/2004 10:35:09 AM PST by Clemenza (Gabba Gabba Hey!)
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To: jeremiah

Climatologists Blast McCain's Hearings on 'Global Warming'
Marc Morano, CNSNews.com
Friday, Nov. 19, 2004
WASHINGTON – Recent U.S. Senate hearings into alleged global warming, chaired by Arizona Republican John McCain, were among the "most biased" that a noted climatologist has ever seen - "much less balanced than anything I saw in the Clinton administration," he said.

Patrick J. Michaels is the author of a new book, "Meltdown: The Predictable Distortion of Global Warming by Scientists, Politicians, and the Media." He is a professor of environmental sciences at the University of Virginia who believes that claims of human-caused "global warming" are scientifically unfounded.
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Michaels spoke with CNSNews.com Thursday after a panel discussion sponsored by the libertarian Cato Institute, where he serves as a senior fellow in environmental studies.
"John McCain, a Republican, has probably held the most biased hearing of all," Michaels said. McCain is a big proponent of limiting emissions of greenhouse gases, which he believes are causing "global warming."


56 posted on 11/21/2004 10:35:39 AM PST by bmwcyle (I wear sleepwear therefore I think (When they are off I am single minded))
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To: sarasotarepublican

I care less.

I believe in PRINCIPLES.

"A departure from principle in one instance becomes a precedent for a second; that second for a third; and so on, till the bulk of the society is reduced to be mere automatons of misery, to have no sensibilities left but for sin and suffering." --THOMAS JEFFERSON to Samuel Kercheval, 1816. ME 15:40


57 posted on 11/21/2004 10:37:53 AM PST by nanak
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To: wagglebee

Mixed feelings aside, better McCain than Hillary--a slightly-wacko ex-Navy pilot than a lying, micro-managing socialist-in-evangelical clothing (as she has cut her "fashion" to the "latest" morals).


58 posted on 11/21/2004 10:38:18 AM PST by MHT
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To: nanak
Tom Tancredo 2008 = Hell-de-Beast's worst nightmare


Not a chance in hell. Hate to disappoint all you hard right types but Immigration doesn't even make the top 10 list of items the American people are concerned about. A Know Nothing anti-imigration candidate will not win a primary anywhere.
59 posted on 11/21/2004 10:39:47 AM PST by MNJohnnie (Next up, US Senate. 60 in 06!)
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To: wagglebee

McCain CANNOT win in the GOP primaries...he would have to run as an independent or Dem....


60 posted on 11/21/2004 10:40:40 AM PST by Moby Grape
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