Posted on 11/21/2004 4:13:02 PM PST by FairOpinion
The US military says marines in Fallujah have shot and killed an insurgent who engaged them as he was faking being dead, a week after footage of a marine killing an apparently unarmed and wounded Iraqi caused a stir in the region.
"Marines from the 1st Marine Division shot and killed an insurgent who while faking dead opened fire on the marines who were conducting a security and clearing patrol through the streets," a military statement said.
Military sources had said that the rules of engagement were looser during the operation launched in Fallujah, for fear that rebels would be disguised, fake death or wear suicide explosives belts.
Great, now the soldiers have to report to the freakin media everytime they do something to protect themselves?
ROCK ON MARINES! doing what you do best, killing TERRORISTS
Well now he's not playing.
Had there been another anti war/anti American anti military embedded propagandist with them
GUARRANTEED this would have been another poor wounded Iraqi freedom fighter just trying to surrender peacefully or trying to ask for mercy for his wounds....
Perhaps the rules of engagement could be loosened to permit shooting journalists who fake having any sense?
bttt
To the MSM: No (American) blood for ratings!
No doubt this WON'T make it onto NBCCBSABCCNNNYTIMESWASHPOST...
For anyone, who missed Ollie North's editorial, giving the rest of the story about the Marine videotaped killing a terrorist, here is the link:
War crimes?
Oliver North
http://www.townhall.com/columnists/ollienorth/on20041119.shtml
the correspondent who videotaped the shooting, doesn't mention the medical treatment provided to the injured enemy combatants, but he does note that four of the combatants were some of those who had been left behind from the firefight on Friday. If the NBC reporter knew that from being there the day before, why didn't he tell this new group of Marines before they rushed into the room?
None of that is included in the tape, which is now being used to raise Islamic ire at the "American invader." Why? And why did it take more than a day to learn that the Marine seen shooting on the videotape had been wounded in the face the day before if the correspondent knew that when he filed the videotape? Why didn't the original story include the fact that a Marine in the same unit had been killed 24 hours earlier while searching the booby-trapped dead body of a terrorist?
Within hours of the videotaped incident in the mosque, another Marine was killed and five others wounded by a booby-trapped body they found in a house after a gunfight. Why was this not made part of the original story? Even Amnesty International, no friend to the American armed forces, has reported that the Iraqi terrorists have illegally used white flags to lure coalition forces into ambushes. Yet this, too, is absent in the original story.
It seems to be even worse. In his editorial Ollie North mentioned that the journalist KNEW there were four wounded terrorists left in the mosque after the fire fight the previous day, and did NOT warn the Marines.
" the correspondent who videotaped the shooting, doesn't mention the medical treatment provided to the injured enemy combatants, but he does note that four of the combatants were some of those who had been left behind from the firefight on Friday. If the NBC reporter knew that from being there the day before, why didn't he tell this new group of Marines before they rushed into the room?"
http://www.townhall.com/columnists/ollienorth/on20041119.shtml
Well he isn’t 'playing' anymore.
Note to insurgents: Next time don't play dead, because the Marines aren't playing. Surrender instead.
WELL DONE, MARINE! CARRY ON!
Just another example they can use in the Marines defense during the hearing.
Read on another thread that Sites is being investigated for this very reason...not sure how much credence to give it though.
Earlier today I posted a thread -with fair warning as to the graphic nature of the photo- that had been on MSNBC's website. The picture was of a dead U.S.Marine on the floor of a kitchen in Fallujah...with another marine standing guard at the door.
The Admin Moderator pulled the thread- maybe too graphic??? but my point is- NBC is going waaaaay over the line with it's photo "journalism" of the war.
When in doubt; Kill it.. If they aren't dead; then they will be.. If they are dead; then they wont mind..!
Semper Fi fellow Marines...
Stay Safe..
Regards,
Joe
Mike Wallace once said that if he knew that the enemy was over the next hill, he would NOT tell OUR gys!!!! He said he's a "journalist" first! DISGUSTING POS.
"Find a Terrorist, Kill a Terrorist!"
We are paid to kill the enemy.
If you want someone to "make nice" with these monsters,
you've sent the wrong guys!
Semper Fi,
Kelly
Ever since the video I keep expecting the headline:
"Another insurgent killed by a Marine!"
Of course, the legacy media doesn't care, they are only out to get ratings and boost their careers. May they reap what they sow.
The incident of the marine shooting the insurgent who was playing dead is constantly being referred to in the media as the marine shooting a "wounded Iraqi"
Do we know whether the insurgent was actually wounded? What exactly were his wounds? Are we sure he was an Iraqi and not a foreign fighter?
I'm just curious, I haven't heard any details about this yet.
"But he's just pining for the fjords."
This is a good idea!
Thank you for your service. God Bless the marines.
Why even have camera crews following the marines around? This is just asking for trouble.
War is hell, and one has to make split second decision between life or death.
EVEN IF THEY MADE IT UP, GOOD FOR THEM!
What on earth makes you think they made it up?
Ollie North reported several similar incidents occurred BEFORE the videotaped shooting.
And here is another one -- the result: two dead Marines. Do you think the Marines are just faking dead?
Fallujah attacks expose new risks
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1285557/posts
FALLUJAH, IRAQ - The white flag may be an international symbol of surrender, but in Fallujah it has become another tool of guerrilla war.
US marines on a foot patrol this weekend paid little attention to a man walking along the road and holding a white flag - a common sight as the conflict dies down and civilians pop up to scavenge for food and water.
But this time, US officers say, as the marines came by, the man dipped into an alley, returned with an AK-47 assault rifle, and sprayed the marines with bullets. Two Americans died, and others were wounded.
In a separate incident, marines were lured into an well-coordinated ambush by men with white flags who appeared to signal that they needed help. When marines got close, gunmen began firing from buildings high above.
A few reporters get killed that way and they'll quit reporting negative stuff.
Those kind of journalists should be first over that hill.
Kevin Sites may have inspired this terroist into thinking I have the MSM covering my back now.
Watching that video, I thought that Marine didn't have to defend his actions at all. After all, this is a war, right? Now after reading Ollie Norths comments, I'm so furious! Who needs terrorist leaders? The MSM propagandist does the job for them?
The MSM would rather see ten dead marines, than one dead or even slightly inconvenienced terrorists.
I think our soldiers should never take any chances. Kill the terrorists first, ask questions later.
EVEN IF THEY MADE IT UP, GOOD FOR THEM!
-- excactly what does this remark mean? Are you suggesting that the military routinely makes things up??
Where did you get "routinely?" Did I type "routinely?" I said, GOOD FOR THEM.....even if they made it up.
I DID NOT suggest that any of this is routine.
End of story.
The previous Marine being pilloried by Kevin Sites did what he should have done. He did what he had to do. If that first "insurgent" had in fact had a grenade, there would be no questions, and all would've moved on.
If another platoon came across a similar situation, or even if they made up or enhanced a situation to make it obvious to folks that their brother had done the right thing, THEN GOOD FOR THEM. Whether it really happened this way, I don't care. I'm proud of them. If you don't like it, take a leap.
Back off, see 37.
bump
Good. We're in a war, not a popularity contest.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1285850/posts
Terrorist faking dead fires on Marines.
Good on 'Ya Marines! God Bless and thank you!
If another platoon came across a similar situation, or even if they made up or enhanced a situation to make it obvious to folks that their brother had done the right thing, THEN GOOD FOR THEM. Whether it really happened this way, I don't care. I'm proud of them. If you don't like it, take a leap.
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My, my what a sweetheart you are! My question was meant to be a serious one: are you in a position to know that the military routinely makes things up. There was no intent to plant the word "routinely" into your statement. My point stands. Unless you can substantiate that the military makes things up to help public opinion along, you should not imply that this story may have been "enhanced."
First of all, psyops is and should be an integral part of any operation. In those operations, any and all communications are tailored to the benefit of our side. So yes, the military can and does make things up. Did they make this up? I don't know. I don't care. It's fortuitous, helps the Marine's position, and I hope for a quick trial and acquittial with or without this info.
My, my what a sweetheart you are!
Thanks! I really am a sweetheart when not under attack. ;-P I am aware of the harsh tone that the internet can add to any posting....are you?
Pentagon Weighs Use of Deception in a Broad Arena -- Value of Disinformation
" The Pentagon is engaged in bitter, high-level debate over how far it can and should go in managing or manipulating information to influence opinion abroad, senior Defense Department civilians and military officers say."
I say, use it to help protect our soldiers and Marines.....Good for them!
If I was there, I was shoot every dead body I saw.
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