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Rep. Istook, R-Okla. was responsible for the insertion of the provision... Developing...
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Posted on 11/21/2004 5:21:35 PM PST by ConservativeMan55

FLASH: Rep. Istook, R-Okla. was responsible for the insertion of the provision... Developing...

-- Senate Majority Leader Bill Frist said Sunday that "accountability will be carried out" against whoever slipped a provision into an omnibus spending bill that would have allowed two committee chairmen to view the tax returns of any American.


TOPICS: Front Page News; Government; Miscellaneous; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Oklahoma
KEYWORDS: istook; taxreturns
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1 posted on 11/21/2004 5:21:35 PM PST by ConservativeMan55
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To: ConservativeMan55

What was Istook trying to do?

I really like the guy in general.....

What was his goal?


2 posted on 11/21/2004 5:22:24 PM PST by ConservativeMan55 (DON'T FIRE UNTIL YOU SEE THE WHITES OF THE CURTAINS THEY ARE WEARING ON THEIR HEADS !)
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To: ConservativeMan55; PhiKapMom; 2Jedismom

Ping!


3 posted on 11/21/2004 5:22:40 PM PST by ConservativeMan55 (DON'T FIRE UNTIL YOU SEE THE WHITES OF THE CURTAINS THEY ARE WEARING ON THEIR HEADS !)
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To: ConservativeMan55

Was is Istook, or one of his staff members? Earlier reports were that this action was taken by staff.


4 posted on 11/21/2004 5:23:28 PM PST by the_Watchman
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To: ConservativeMan55

Shoulda know it was one of our own. What the Sam Hell was he thinking?


5 posted on 11/21/2004 5:23:29 PM PST by BigSkyFreeper (Congratulations President-Re-Elect George W. Bush!)
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To: ConservativeMan55

lets see what he says..tomorrow

i will bet he has to say something after this.


6 posted on 11/21/2004 5:23:29 PM PST by Gibtx (pajamahadeen call to arms.....)
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To: the_Watchman

Istook has had so many problems with his staff.....


7 posted on 11/21/2004 5:24:10 PM PST by ConservativeMan55 (DON'T FIRE UNTIL YOU SEE THE WHITES OF THE CURTAINS THEY ARE WEARING ON THEIR HEADS !)
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To: Gibtx

I'll wait to see what he says about this tomorrow.


8 posted on 11/21/2004 5:24:55 PM PST by ConservativeMan55 (DON'T FIRE UNTIL YOU SEE THE WHITES OF THE CURTAINS THEY ARE WEARING ON THEIR HEADS !)
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To: ConservativeMan55

Is he planning on running for Senate somewhere, or knows someone who is and wants the returns?
Sure would like to see the Kerry family returns, but not like this.


9 posted on 11/21/2004 5:25:16 PM PST by mabelkitty (Blackwell for Governor in 2006!!!)
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To: ConservativeMan55
Istook has had so many problems with his staff.....

If he had a backbone, he'd fire the troublemakers.

10 posted on 11/21/2004 5:25:23 PM PST by BigSkyFreeper (Congratulations President-Re-Elect George W. Bush!)
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To: BigSkyFreeper

Thats what I'd like to know.


11 posted on 11/21/2004 5:25:25 PM PST by ConservativeMan55 (DON'T FIRE UNTIL YOU SEE THE WHITES OF THE CURTAINS THEY ARE WEARING ON THEIR HEADS !)
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To: ConservativeMan55

How about if we look at their tax records?

How would they like that?


12 posted on 11/21/2004 5:25:28 PM PST by Bullish
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To: ConservativeMan55

he should fire the lot of em


13 posted on 11/21/2004 5:25:33 PM PST by William of Orange
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To: ConservativeMan55

You take Matt Drudge hype for the truth?...... Now it maybe that there is something to the statement but until it's further examined I'd take anything Drudge says with a grain of salt..... It was mentioned sometime back that it was staffers that did the do so who knows.....

It's Sunday night and Drudge has a radio program about to air....


14 posted on 11/21/2004 5:25:58 PM PST by deport (I've done a lot things.... seen a lot of things..... Most of which I don't remember.)
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To: BigSkyFreeper

He's gotten rid of a few troublemakers..but others have popped up.


15 posted on 11/21/2004 5:26:14 PM PST by ConservativeMan55 (DON'T FIRE UNTIL YOU SEE THE WHITES OF THE CURTAINS THEY ARE WEARING ON THEIR HEADS !)
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To: the_Watchman

Probably some little Yalie on the staff. You know the type, fresh out of school, never held a real job before, think they know how to run everyones lives, etc. Washington is full of 'em. That's what Hillary was about 30 something years ago.


16 posted on 11/21/2004 5:26:24 PM PST by Coyoteman
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To: Coyoteman

LOL!


17 posted on 11/21/2004 5:27:15 PM PST by ConservativeMan55 (DON'T FIRE UNTIL YOU SEE THE WHITES OF THE CURTAINS THEY ARE WEARING ON THEIR HEADS !)
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To: ConservativeMan55

Bush is pushing tax reform, and Istook pulls this stunt. If Istook plays chicksh** tomorrow, heads should roll in his office, including his.


18 posted on 11/21/2004 5:27:40 PM PST by BigSkyFreeper (Congratulations President-Re-Elect George W. Bush!)
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To: ConservativeMan55

Whoever is responsible for it- here's hoping there's ACTUAL accountability.


19 posted on 11/21/2004 5:27:44 PM PST by SE Mom (God Bless our troops.)
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To: ConservativeMan55

this incident is a shocking disgrace.


20 posted on 11/21/2004 5:30:10 PM PST by Mount Athos
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To: Coyoteman

What do you mean 30 yrs. ago the bitch hasn't changed her spots she still thinks she's better able to run your life than you are.


21 posted on 11/21/2004 5:30:28 PM PST by snowman1
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To: ConservativeMan55

If it is him he's got to go. What the hell was he thinking?

If it was his staff he's got to clean house immediately. What the hell were they thinking?


22 posted on 11/21/2004 5:31:03 PM PST by Arkie2
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To: ConservativeMan55

Omnibus bills are a dumb idea.


23 posted on 11/21/2004 5:31:16 PM PST by isthisnickcool (Kerry for dork of the year!)
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To: snowman1

Right. Never said she changed. The rest of 'em don't change much either.


24 posted on 11/21/2004 5:31:36 PM PST by Coyoteman
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To: ConservativeMan55

Maybe I'm just jaded by politics, but I honestly thought something like this was already possible. Surely, if (for example) terrorism is suspected with one or more individuals, law enforcement and government officials would have been able to get the tax info regardless of this provision introduced by Istook?


25 posted on 11/21/2004 5:33:28 PM PST by Trippin
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To: ConservativeMan55
Istook has had so many problems with his staff.....

Details, please. I'm needing ideas for my next blog article.

26 posted on 11/21/2004 5:34:35 PM PST by NeoCaveman ("I expressed myself rather forcefully, felt better after I had done it," -- VP Cheney)
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To: ConservativeMan55
Whether some staffer pulled the stunt, or he did it himself to gain a little notoriety, Istook should know what the heck he's sending to the hill to be voted on.

If it was a staffer, it just shows the incompetancy on the part of elected officials that runs rampant in the halls of Capitol Hill.

27 posted on 11/21/2004 5:35:10 PM PST by BigSkyFreeper (Congratulations President-Re-Elect George W. Bush!)
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To: ConservativeMan55

Somebody mentioned Istook's name earlier, before Drudge posted this. No source was given.

I wonder if he was set up? If the bill is that big, how did the people who complained about it find it and object to it, unless they knew about it from a leak from Istook's office, or maybe even fed it to them?

Pure speculation at this point, I suppose.


28 posted on 11/21/2004 5:35:25 PM PST by Cicero (Nil illegitemus carborundum est)
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To: ConservativeMan55

found at: http://www.dailyinterlake.com/articles/2004/11/21/ap/headlines/d86gjb980.txt

Lawmakers Hold Out Hope for Intel Bill
Posted: Sunday, Nov 21, 2004 - 05:05:12 pm PST
By JIM ABRAMS


SNIP

But there will be a delay in getting President Bush's signature. The hang-up is because of a single line in the bill that would have given two committee chairmen and their assistants access to people's income tax returns.

The Senate approved a resolution nullifying the idea; House leaders promised to pass it on Wednesday. Then, the spending bill will head to the White House.

"I have no earthly idea how it got in there," Frist said on "Fox News Sunday." "But, obviously, somebody is going to know, and accountability will be carried out."

Frist referred to the bill Saturday night as the "Istook amendment," and congressional aides said it was inserted at the request of Rep. Ernest Istook Jr., R-Okla.

Istook, chairman of the House Appropriations transportation subcommittee, said in a statement Sunday that the Internal Revenue Service drafted the language, which would not have allowed any inspections of tax returns. "Nobody's privacy was ever jeopardized," the statement said.


29 posted on 11/21/2004 5:35:40 PM PST by edfrank_1998
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To: isthisnickcool

I don't like them for this simple fact. People are always trying to slip things into it.


30 posted on 11/21/2004 5:36:04 PM PST by ConservativeMan55 (DON'T FIRE UNTIL YOU SEE THE WHITES OF THE CURTAINS THEY ARE WEARING ON THEIR HEADS !)
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To: ConservativeMan55

There are many Republicans who have become RINOS and not because they are liberal.


31 posted on 11/21/2004 5:37:17 PM PST by OneTimeLurker
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To: edfrank_1998

So, is this all a big to-do over nothing?


32 posted on 11/21/2004 5:37:31 PM PST by Trippin
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To: ConservativeMan55
Tinfoil hat time,the specter of hillarys' FILEGATE now hits the blogs.

Tinfoil?,I think not.

33 posted on 11/21/2004 5:37:34 PM PST by mdittmar (May God watch over those who serve to keep us free)
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To: edfrank_1998

Be nice if freepers waited for all the facts before bashing anyone!


34 posted on 11/21/2004 5:38:23 PM PST by OldFriend (PRAY FOR POWERS EQUAL TO THE TASKS)
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To: mdittmar

Wow!

This could be big! That could completely jeopardize her 08 run.


35 posted on 11/21/2004 5:38:42 PM PST by ConservativeMan55 (DON'T FIRE UNTIL YOU SEE THE WHITES OF THE CURTAINS THEY ARE WEARING ON THEIR HEADS !)
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To: edfrank_1998
Istook, chairman of the House Appropriations transportation subcommittee, said in a statement Sunday that the Internal Revenue Service drafted the language, which would not have allowed any inspections of tax returns. "Nobody's privacy was ever jeopardized," the statement said.

Istook just proved he had no clue what HIS OWN amendment included. Instead of fiddling around and luncheons and cocktail parties, these people the voters send to do the peoples work should do the peoples work and not hob-knob with media elites and Hollyweird clowns in their off hours.

36 posted on 11/21/2004 5:38:43 PM PST by BigSkyFreeper (Congratulations President-Re-Elect George W. Bush!)
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To: BigSkyFreeper

bttt


37 posted on 11/21/2004 5:39:06 PM PST by ConservativeMan55 (DON'T FIRE UNTIL YOU SEE THE WHITES OF THE CURTAINS THEY ARE WEARING ON THEIR HEADS !)
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To: ConservativeMan55

Don't you just love it when "they" call for an investigation on who did it? (Which by the way, whoever did it should pay) whoever signs onto something like this should pay too, wonder if they ever thought of that??


38 posted on 11/21/2004 5:40:54 PM PST by trustandobey
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To: trustandobey

"They" LOL!!!


39 posted on 11/21/2004 5:41:27 PM PST by ConservativeMan55 (DON'T FIRE UNTIL YOU SEE THE WHITES OF THE CURTAINS THEY ARE WEARING ON THEIR HEADS !)
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To: Coyoteman

"Probably some little Yalie on the staff."

I didn't know there were any Republicans at Yale for a GOP Congressman to hire.


40 posted on 11/21/2004 5:43:17 PM PST by nj26
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To: ConservativeMan55
I've had my concerns about Istook ever since, on the night of 19APR95, he reportedly told Reserve Deputy Sheriff David Kochendorfer (sworn deposition) that "We knew this was going to happen." (OKC bombing) and "We blew it".

Istook now denies his remarks, but Kochendorfer stands by his statement.

Strange stuff... (But there were a lot of strange things related to the OKC bombing...)

As far as I'm concerned, "the jury's still out" on Istook.

41 posted on 11/21/2004 5:43:41 PM PST by TXnMA
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Leaders of the House Ways and Means Committee can already do this (look at returns)?

"The provision, written by the IRS, was intended to give top appropriators the same oversight authority now afforded to leaders of the House Ways and Means Committee, Scofield said."

found at: http://www.chron.com/cs/CDA/printstory.mpl/nation/2911481

Nov. 21, 2004, 3:22PM

Spending measure OK minus provision
Senators express concern over an attachment allowing for an IRS inquiry; NASA gets boost
By GEBE MARTINEZ

SNIP

"It's not my fault," said Senate Appropriations Committee Chairman Ted Stevens, R-Alaska, as he pounded his lectern with his fist in frustration with the last-minute snag that threatened to derail the bill.

"It's a terrible way to do business," Stevens said, agreeing with other Republicans who said they were surprised by the income tax return language and had no intention of snooping on U.S. taxpayers.

"We would never use that. We did not seek this authority. We are as appalled (as Democrats)," Stevens said.

Senate Democrats who inadvertently discovered the income tax wording blamed House members for what they said was a "breathtaking arrogance of power."

"This arrogant provision is open to enormous abuse and takes us back to some of the worst days of American government," said Sen. Dianne Feinstein, D-Calif.

House leadership aides said the controversy was a knee-jerk reaction to a misunderstanding of the provision, which was inserted by Rep. Ernest Istook, R-Okla., whose House Appropriations subcommittee oversees the IRS.

"It was not any surprise," said John Scofield, spokesman for the House Appropriations Committee.

"The Senate was in the room when it was negotiated."

The provision, written by the IRS, was intended to give top appropriators the same oversight authority now afforded to leaders of the House Ways and Means Committee, Scofield said.

He added that in two instances, the House Appropriations Committee was denied access to IRS facilities even though the panel oversees spending.

SNIP


42 posted on 11/21/2004 5:44:04 PM PST by edfrank_1998
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To: edfrank_1998

bttt


43 posted on 11/21/2004 5:44:59 PM PST by ConservativeMan55 (DON'T FIRE UNTIL YOU SEE THE WHITES OF THE CURTAINS THEY ARE WEARING ON THEIR HEADS !)
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To: ConservativeMan55
Senate Majority Leader Bill Frist said Sunday that "accountability will be carried out" against whoever

Does that mean he will get two stern letters instead of one ?
44 posted on 11/21/2004 5:45:06 PM PST by festus (Old growth timbers make the best campfires....)
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To: ConservativeMan55

Is Istook the Ron Artest of congress?


45 posted on 11/21/2004 5:45:39 PM PST by skaterboy
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To: festus

No.

He's got an (R) next to his name.

If this situation were turned around..and Democrats had inserted this into the bill, they would be crying foul over how it was found out.


46 posted on 11/21/2004 5:48:05 PM PST by ConservativeMan55 (DON'T FIRE UNTIL YOU SEE THE WHITES OF THE CURTAINS THEY ARE WEARING ON THEIR HEADS !)
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To: ConservativeMan55

bttt


47 posted on 11/21/2004 5:48:21 PM PST by ConservativeMan55 (DON'T FIRE UNTIL YOU SEE THE WHITES OF THE CURTAINS THEY ARE WEARING ON THEIR HEADS !)
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To: skaterboy
Is Istook the Ron Artest of congress?

Must be. I never heard of either one until today.

48 posted on 11/21/2004 5:48:21 PM PST by BigSkyFreeper (Congratulations President-Re-Elect George W. Bush!)
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To: ConservativeMan55

"What was his goal?"

my guess - he probably didn't read it. Probably some sneaky lobbyist persuaded someone on his staff to insert it. Just a guess though. Will be interesting to see how it shakes out. If Istook came up with it on his own he will get burned.


49 posted on 11/21/2004 5:49:12 PM PST by orangelobster
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To: BigSkyFreeper

LOL!


50 posted on 11/21/2004 5:50:35 PM PST by ConservativeMan55 (DON'T FIRE UNTIL YOU SEE THE WHITES OF THE CURTAINS THEY ARE WEARING ON THEIR HEADS !)
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