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Clues on Hostages Emerge From Houses in Falluja
nytimes.com ^ | November 22, 2004 | Robert F. Worth

Posted on 11/21/2004 8:25:05 PM PST by crushelits

FALLUJA, Iraq, Nov. 21 - In one house hung a black banner with the words "One God and Jihad" and a distinctive yellow sun, terrifyingly familiar as the backdrop to videotaped beheadings by the group of that name. In another house there was a cage large enough to hold a human and a wall marked with Arabic writing and what appears to be a fingerprint in dried blood.

Before the doors to these houses in Falluja were thrown open to two reporters on Sunday, soldiers and intelligence officers had already carried away other items from them, handcuffs, shackles, militant propaganda, bayonets, and knives - crusted with what looked like blood and resembling the ones used in the beheadings. A detailed photograph-catalog of the items was shown to the reporters in an intelligence report.

American and Iraqi government officials have long said that Falluja was a center of the Iraqi insurgency and a depot where militants held hostages with impunity before the American-led invasion two weeks ago. A tour of the two houses on Sunday represented the first time that American journalists saw direct evidence of the places where the hostages may have been imprisoned and, in some cases, killed in videotaped executions. Even so, there is no way to know for now exactly what happened here. Because the houses were discovered only a few days ago and there has been no DNA testing or comparison of this setting with the videos, it cannot be said for certain that these were the last rooms that foreign or Iraqi hostages saw before their lives were ended.

But both locations were found through Iraqi informants, one of them someone who said that he had been held hostage in the house with the black banner, American investigators said. They quoted the informant as saying he had heard the voices of at least three other hostages in neighboring rooms, including one he believed to be that of Kenneth Bigley, the British engineer decapitated in early October.

The houses are among almost 20 sites discovered over the past two weeks in Falluja where American and Iraqi military officers contend that atrocities were committed. Maj. Jim West, an intelligence officer with the First Marine Expeditionary Force, said the sites included houses where Western hostages appear to have been held and others where insurgents tortured or killed residents to help enforce their rule in the city, some of them basement rooms with bloody handprints on the wall.

Last week, Iraqi soldiers searching a house discovered what appeared to be a command center for militants associated with Abu Musab al-Zarqawi, the Jordanian militant who is the most wanted insurgent in Iraq. In that house, the soldiers found what they said were believed to be letters between Mr. Zarqawi and some of his lieutenants, along with weapons, computers, bomb-making materials and medical supplies.

And there has been at least one discovery of a quite different kind. Near the house with the cage, soldiers searched a house that officials said contained a primitive chemical weapons lab. They said the lab had sodium cyanide, potassium cyanide, sulfuric acid, hydrochloric acid, and other chemicals, along with indications that insurgents were trying to use them to make bombs. Exactly what weaponry they were experimenting with is not clear. There were no reports of chemical weapons used in the battle for Falluja.

The two houses that had been filled with the paraphernalia of torture, though, provided the most graphic glimpse yet of what seem to have been horrific prisons.

The black banner was found inside a house in southeast Falluja, site of the worst fighting last week. In full, the yellow lettering on the banner read "The organization of One God and Jihad," the former name of the network run by Mr. Zarqawi.

The group, which has changed its name to Al Qaeda in Mesopotamia, is believed to be responsible for bombings, beheadings, and ambushes that have left hundreds dead across Iraq.

Eliminating Mr. Zarqawi's network was one of the goals of the American-led offensive in Falluja. One of the houses, in a residential area now strewn with rubble, contains two rooms where American military officials say they believe that the hostages were kept, with metal handcuffs, plastic zip cuffs, and shackles. Another shackle had been attached to a rod in the bathroom, apparently to keep hostages chained up while they were in that room, officials said

When a reportertoured the house with Marine officers on Sunday, the handcuffs and shackles had been removed, but it was still strewn with the black masks and black tennis sneakers favored by the insurgents.

Underneath a staircase is an alcove where American officials believe that hostages were interrogated and tortured. Its walls are stained with a dark substance, with two large nails sticking out.

Investigators also found cellphones, computer disks, burnt documents, and cassette players in the house, as well as the bayonets and large knives, officials said. The other house is in a residential neighborhood closer to the center of the city. Inside it is a cage fashioned out of wire and metal about seven feet high, seven feet wide and four feet deep, set against a brick wall in a corner. Within the cage was a discarded I.V. bag, an empty bag of potato chips and a fluorescent light.

On Sunday, two Marine officers stood in front of the cage and held up a photograph of Mr. Bigley, who was videotaped in a similar cage before he was decapitated last month. One officer said the cages did not appear to match. Others who were present, though, said the evidence recovered earlier at least suggested that people had been kept in the cage.

In a windowless room nearby, there was a fingerprint on the wall, in what looked like dried blood. Near it was the word "hope," written on the wall in Arabic letters. Also on the wall were the words for "put," "kept," "plan" and "to pass on," in no intelligible order, according to an Army translator.

In another room, a piece of wire hung from the ceiling. Verses from the Koran were scrawled on walls in several places. Children's clothing, pictures and a child's pink bicycle were heaped into a corner, as though squatters had moved in and pushed aside the inhabitants' belongings.

Thin mattresses and frying pans with scraps of food in them were on the floor. By the window, covered with curtains fashioned from detergent sacks stitched together, was a box of onions, still fresh.

Two houses away was the makeshift chemical lab, where plastic bags of powder with Arabic labels sat on a shelf. Across the room were several rubber gloves and bottles of chemicals. A grenade sat upright on the table, its detonator removed. One plastic bag of pale powdery substance was labeled "TNT." A faint chemical odor hung in the air.

Chief Warrant Officer Lee Fair of the First Battalion, EighthMarines, said a neighboring room held evidence that someone had been mixing chemicals to make a "blood agent," a highly toxic compound. There were also blasting caps, apparently an effort to spread the agent through explosives, he said.

"Anyone that knew what they were doing could put those things together and make something very dangerous," he said.


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1 posted on 11/21/2004 8:25:05 PM PST by crushelits
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Site Meter Really sick people - I hope we kill everyone of them that had a hand in this evil...
2 posted on 11/21/2004 8:26:26 PM PST by KMC1
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what appears to be a fingerprint in dried blood. I am almost sure they have not come across the main killing room then. I mean anyone who saw the beheadings will know there is a room/s in Fallujah that will look as though the floor has been painted red. Blood is hard to clean off and I doubt these monkey's are the types to bother steam cleaning.
3 posted on 11/21/2004 8:30:33 PM PST by kiwi_hawk (Religion of Peace)
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To: Grampa Dave; dennisw; FITZ; F15Eagle; Squantos; wardaddy; Eaker
We're going to find out, sooner or later,

If Abdul will pray, to a glowing crater.

4 posted on 11/21/2004 8:36:21 PM PST by Travis McGee (----- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com -----)
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To: crushelits

THIS is from the NYTIMES? Hmmmmm.....maybe some of the LIBS will FINALLY figure out what we're up against!!!! The Girlie men might finally start shutting up.


5 posted on 11/21/2004 8:36:38 PM PST by goodnesswins (Tax cuts, Tax reform, social security reform, Supreme Court, etc.....the next 4 years.....)
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I doubt these monkey's are the types to bother steam cleaning.

I doubt these DOGS are the types to bother steam cleaning.

DOGS is a better word for them.

Muslims hate it when you call them DOGS.

6 posted on 11/21/2004 8:37:09 PM PST by crushelits
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Wow - new york times!


7 posted on 11/21/2004 8:39:16 PM PST by Right in Wisconsin
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To: KMC1

Well, perhaps we will finally learn the lesson of the spring when we pulled out of Fallujah and allowed the terrorists the run of the place.


8 posted on 11/21/2004 8:39:31 PM PST by Tennessean4Bush (An optimist believes we live in the best of all possible worlds, a pessimist fears this is true.)
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To: crushelits; dennisw; SJackson; MeekOneGOP; TrueBeliever9; Geist Krieger; JohnHuang2; Salem; ...

Al Qaeda's handiwork found in Fallujah - ping.


9 posted on 11/21/2004 8:40:08 PM PST by Happy2BMe (It's not quite time to rest - John Kerry is still out there (and so is Hillary))
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I'm glad to see this is in the NY Times. The tone of the article is very clinical, unlike when they write about largely invented "atrocities" committed by Americans, when the outrage is all too evident, but at least it's a start.


10 posted on 11/21/2004 8:46:06 PM PST by Cicero (Nil illegitemus carborundum est)
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To: crushelits
"Muslims hate it when you call them DOGS."

Not as much as dogs hate it when you call them Muslims.

13 posted on 11/21/2004 8:54:23 PM PST by TheCrusader ("the frenzy of the Mohammedans has devastated the Churches of God" - Pope Urban II, 1097 A.D.)
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To: goodnesswins

My reaction exactly. I thought the Times was so busy with Abu Ghraib and the shooting by the US Marine that they would just ignore this.


14 posted on 11/21/2004 8:56:59 PM PST by Mears
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To: goodnesswins
THIS is from the NYTIMES? Hmmmmm.....maybe some of the LIBS will FINALLY figure out what we're up against!!!!

You have to remember that the election is over. They may as well go with the truth this time because it won't have any impact on the election.

15 posted on 11/21/2004 9:00:01 PM PST by boycott
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To: crushelits

Or pigs.


16 posted on 11/21/2004 9:00:14 PM PST by AM2000 (I am not responsible for the contents of this post.)
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To: crushelits

DOGS is a better word for them.



I love my dog! He's way higher up on the ladder than any terrorist.


17 posted on 11/21/2004 9:00:22 PM PST by Just Lori (Before you can win the peace, you have to win the WAR!!!)
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To: crushelits

Considering the speed with which that video showing Marines shooting someone hit the airwaves, where are all the videos and pictures in the MSM?


18 posted on 11/21/2004 9:00:45 PM PST by bill1952 ("All that we do is done with an eye towards something else.")
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Before the doors to these houses in Falluja were thrown open to two reporters on Sunday, soldiers and intelligence officers had already carried away other items from them, handcuffs, shackles, militant propaganda, bayonets, and knives - crusted with what looked like blood and resembling the ones used in the beheadings. A detailed photograph-catalog of the items was shown to the reporters in an intelligence report.



This will not be seen or heard about on the MSM. Just a Marine finishing off a wounded terrorist in a Mosque...... er I mean a war monger murdering an innocent prisoner...... I am continually amazed.


19 posted on 11/21/2004 9:02:39 PM PST by Just Lori (Before you can win the peace, you have to win the WAR!!!)
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"In one house hung a black banner with the words "One God and Jihad" and a distinctive yellow sun, terrifyingly familiar as the backdrop to videotaped beheadings by the group of that name."

I'm convinced that the Islamic "prophet" mohammed is the evilist man to ever walk this earth. During his life he pillaged, murdered and conquered other nations, but not to the degree that some modern tyrants have done.

But unlike all of his tyrant counterparts, no one else in history has been able to perpetuate the murders and the misery in their name long after their death. Mohammed's evil cult has caused the misery and deaths of an incalculable number of people over the last fourteen centuries.

20 posted on 11/21/2004 9:08:12 PM PST by TheCrusader ("the frenzy of the Mohammedans has devastated the Churches of God" - Pope Urban II, 1097 A.D.)
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