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To: Paul C. Jesup
Man are you sensitive. At best you are talking like a Libertarian. Principled but unrealistic. Hopefully that's it, because if that's not it then the best thing I can call your position is un-American and I won't describe the rest lest you take it wrong.

You are wrong about women and the draft. WOMEN HAVE ALWAYS BEEN EXEMPT FROM THE DRAFT AND THEY OUGHT TO BE. The 80's has nothing to do with it. Radical feminism sucks eggs, but unlike you I am not going to have my daughters drafted just to throw feminist equality mis-logic back in their faces.

No real men think that women ought to be drafted for combat. Feminist men might. Libertarians trying to make a point might. Take that however you want, Paul, but I am not going to let people like you draft my daughters for combat just so you can make a political point.

Oops, did I imply that you think ANYONE may ever be drafted? "My bad," as you clearly are pushing for no draft at all for anyone under any circumstances.

Well, that is the real issue here. You do not think that anyone ever should be drafted, so by gosh, if they are going to draft men then they dang well should have to draft women, right?

Here I am advocating that there should be (1) no non-defense national service for men or (2) women, and (3) no national defense draft for women, but the fact that I agree with a draft for men in time of national need just sticks in your craw. We agree on 3 out of 4 points but for some reason that 4th point that there in fact is a legitimate type of draft for men just sets you off.

In fact, you might as well be espousing your illogic at almost everyone here because ALL I am advocating it that I agree with the status quo. Things are fine as they are! I just do not want to see for political correctness either a non-defense national service, or a draft of women, EXACTLY WHAT WE ALREADY HAVE HERE IN THESE UNITED STATES.

So what is your problem? I think that your agenda is to eliminate a draft completely, right, and to do that you are willing to sacrifice our women and try to act like we have to draft everyone including women or else (what you really want) never draft anyone at all for any reason.

You can have the last word, Paul, because my position is quite clear through this thread and it does not need further clarification. But the best thing for you to do is state your own position clearly for us all to see.

Answer these 4 true-false questions if you dare (I think you answer all false, even the first, but we will see if you are willing to say so in public):

(1) It is a legitimate power of the United States to draft able-bodied military age MEN for necessary national defense, true or false? I say TRUE. What do you say?

(2) It is a legitimate power of the United States to draft able-bodied military age WOMEN for necessary national defense, true or false? I say FALSE. What do you say?

(3) It is a legitimate power of the United States to compel any and all MEN to perform national service not directly related to necessary national defense. I say FALSE. What do you say?

(4) It is a legitimate power of the United States to compel any and all WOMEN to perform national service not directly related to necessary national defense. I say FALSE. What do you say?

64 posted on 11/23/2004 3:36:26 AM PST by Weirdad (A Free Republic, not a "democracy" (mob rule))
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To: Weirdad
Man are you sensitive. At best you are talking like a Libertarian. Principled but unrealistic. Hopefully that's it, because if that's not it then the best thing I can call your position is un-American and I won't describe the rest lest you take it wrong.

Name calling only hurts your position.

You are wrong about women and the draft. WOMEN HAVE ALWAYS BEEN EXEMPT FROM THE DRAFT AND THEY OUGHT TO BE. The 80's has nothing to do with it.

You missed my entire point about how feminists want elitism over men and NOT equality, and how you support THEIR opinion.

Answer these 4 true-false questions if you dare (I think you answer all false, even the first, but we will see if you are willing to say so in public):

Nope, they are 'loaded' questions that each require a detailed explaination on. But since you keep missing the points I make, I think it is a waste of time to go into a more in-depth discussion on until after you understand the basics.

67 posted on 11/23/2004 4:19:30 AM PST by Paul C. Jesup
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