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"This is the Way God Made Me":A Scientific Examination of Homosexuality and the "Gay Gene"
Apologetics Press, Inc ^ | 2003 | Brad Harrub, Ph.D., Bert Thompson, Ph.D., Dave Miller, Ph.D.

Posted on 11/22/2004 2:39:49 PM PST by Ed Current

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To: perdiem; little jeremiah; EdReform; Bryan
Wow, for someone presumably opposed to homosexual activity, you’re awfully obsessed with gay sex! Shall we turn the microscope on YOUR life now?

Oh, Oh…I love this one.

Let me try…

Wow, for someone presumably opposed to homosexual Incestual activity, you’re awfully obsessed with gay family sex! Shall we turn the microscope on YOUR life now?

Wow, for someone presumably opposed to homosexual Bestial activity, you’re awfully obsessed with gay animal sex! Shall we turn the microscope on YOUR life now?

Wow, for someone presumably opposed to homosexual Pedophilic activity, you’re awfully obsessed with gay child sex! Shall we turn the microscope on YOUR life now?

Attention on deck, new pro-sodomy justificator on board.

101 posted on 11/22/2004 9:35:53 PM PST by Clint N. Suhks
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To: Clint N. Suhks; perdiem

I love it.

"Wow, I wonder why you're so obsessed with people who opposed the "gay" agenda. You like the "gay" agenda then? What's so "gay" about anonymous orgies, sodomy, and AIDS?"

Gosh, if all the people who are opposed to the "gay" agenda are closet homos (as these people like to say), then the number of homosexuals is waaaayyy more than the false 10% number they used to tout.

In Georgia it would be, IIRC, 83% are closet homos, since that many voted against "gay" marriage.

LOL!!!


102 posted on 11/22/2004 11:13:29 PM PST by little jeremiah (Moral absolutes are what make humans human.)
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To: little jeremiah; perdiem
I love plan B " accuse the accuser", it's gotta be right there on top of the Homosexual propaganda talking points.

Perdiem, you go girl.

103 posted on 11/22/2004 11:24:49 PM PST by Clint N. Suhks
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To: Clint N. Suhks

And since it's fine to be "gay", their accusation is really praise, according to their viewpoint.


104 posted on 11/22/2004 11:27:36 PM PST by little jeremiah (Moral absolutes are what make humans human.)
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To: little jeremiah
And since it's fine to be "gay", their accusation is really praise, according to their viewpoint.

A conundrum for the ages...

105 posted on 11/22/2004 11:35:25 PM PST by Clint N. Suhks
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To: Clint N. Suhks

LOL!!!


106 posted on 11/22/2004 11:46:31 PM PST by little jeremiah (Moral absolutes are what make humans human.)
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To: buffyt
Do you believe that people who have the desire to have sex with children are born that way.

What about a desire to have sex with animals?

Many times these desires start in childhood, does that make is normal?

The way they have sex is abnormal, and harmful to their own bodies.

They were not naturally made for that type of sex.
107 posted on 11/22/2004 11:49:47 PM PST by Delphinium
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To: Clint N. Suhks
Thanks you explained it better than I did.

Question is will they get it?
108 posted on 11/22/2004 11:53:54 PM PST by Delphinium
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To: Delphinium; buffyt
They were not naturally made for that type of sex.

Excellent and poignant point. It totally enumerates the “desire" argument and acknowledges the “choice” issue.

109 posted on 11/23/2004 12:03:22 AM PST by Clint N. Suhks
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To: Delphinium
Question is will they get it?

NOT the neolibs, they will invoke the "consenting adults" erroneous claptrap.

110 posted on 11/23/2004 12:07:18 AM PST by Clint N. Suhks
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To: perdiem
Given that you recognize that, how then do you justify occupying yourself with thinking about how awful other people are?

Why are you so obsessed with pointing fingers at me as an individual while all I did was point out the wrongs of a behaviour of anonymous persons and the general behaviour of a group?

Seems to me that you are the one with a problem, not me.

You ar obviously a Democrat, and a liberal, and most likely, a Democrat Underground troll.

113 posted on 11/23/2004 5:56:03 AM PST by RaceBannon (Arab Media pulled out of Fallujah; Could we get the MSM to pull out of America??)
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To: Ed Current

bump for later read and as Dean Hamer said,
"there is no gay gene"


114 posted on 11/23/2004 6:42:02 AM PST by Varda
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To: perdiem
It's also a sin, of course, when heterosexuals use their sexuality irresponsibly.

You ae right if talking about what is sin and not sin.

What about what is natural, or unnatural.(read 107)

Just because one wakes up with some crazy desire does not make it natural.

There are many perverted desires that are too uncomfortable to discuss with you.I have attended very graphic sex offender classes and believe me it is an uncomfortable subject. Most of these people start having these perverted desires at a very early age.

In the last few years books are being written saying that pedofiles are born that way, and its beautiful loving sex with a child.

How far are you going to go with your argument?
115 posted on 11/23/2004 9:02:30 AM PST by Delphinium
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To: DirtyHarryY2K

Do you believe that anyone who divorces his wife and marries another woman commits adultery, and the man who marries a divorced woman commits adultery.


116 posted on 11/23/2004 9:34:29 AM PST by Doe Eyes (Fat, drunk, and stupid is no way to go through life.)
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To: Delphinium; perdiem
It's also a sin, of course, when heterosexuals use their sexuality irresponsibly.

You are right if talking about what is sin and not sin.

Yes...the difference obviously being that we are all sinners and we all should repent from our sins. Homosexuals are unrepentant sinners and justify their sin as being good, right and true. You don't need to be a theologian to see that.

117 posted on 11/23/2004 9:56:41 AM PST by Clint N. Suhks
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To: Clint N. Suhks
Homosexuals are unrepentant sinners and justify their sin as being good, right and true.

And they want to force us, and our children to justify their sin as being good, right and true.
118 posted on 11/23/2004 11:00:15 AM PST by Delphinium
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To: Doe Eyes
Do you believe that anyone who divorces his wife and marries another woman commits adultery, and the man who marries a divorced woman commits adultery?.

Adultery

5:27 “You have heard that it was said, ‘Do not commit adultery.’[Exod 20:14] 5:28 But I say to you that whoever looks at a woman to desire her has already committed adultery with her in his heart. 5:29 If your right eye causes you to sin, tear it out and throw it away! It is better to lose one of your members than to have your whole body thrown into hell. 5:30 If your right hand causes you to sin, cut it off and throw it away! It is better to lose one of your members than to have your whole body go into hell.

Divorce

5:31 “It was said, ‘Whoever divorces his wife must give her a legal document.’ 5:32 But I say to you that everyone who divorces his wife, except for immorality, makes her commit adultery, and whoever marries a divorced woman commits adultery.

119 posted on 11/23/2004 1:44:23 PM PST by DirtyHarryY2K (Perversion is not a civil right.)
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To: Doe Eyes

Sorry, That was Matthew ch 5


120 posted on 11/23/2004 1:46:13 PM PST by DirtyHarryY2K (Perversion is not a civil right.)
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To: tuesday afternoon
They are, to say the least, disproportionaly affected.
122 posted on 11/23/2004 1:59:15 PM PST by Ed Current
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To: DirtyHarryY2K
Many Americans have divorced, or married those who have divorced. Do you think they are all sinners? Our greatest leader, President Reagan, was a divorcee who married a divorced woman.
123 posted on 11/23/2004 7:09:28 PM PST by Doe Eyes (Fat, drunk, and stupid is no way to go through life.)
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To: Ed Current
I checked the CDC. The 900,000 number represents AIDS cases alone, not HIV. The proportion of AIDS cases in homosexual men is closer to 70% - 16% total of homosexual men, or nearly 1 in 6!

I don't know the HIV numbers. It would probably push the numbers closer to 1 in 4.

124 posted on 11/24/2004 11:59:46 AM PST by tuesday afternoon (Everything happens for a reason. - 40 and 43)
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To: Ed Current

"If we were to start a new television sitcom, and wanted to accurately portray homosexual ratios in society, we would need 199 heterosexual actors before we finally introduced one homosexual actor."

This does not explain why "Will & Grace" are forced down our throats on cable TV 24 x 7. No pun intended.


125 posted on 11/24/2004 12:02:32 PM PST by gathersnomoss
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To: Ed Current

"This is the Way God Made Me" - How could any Christian believe that the Lord had created a "gay gene" when homosexual activity is a Sin?

The Lord created *temptation,* and it is the responsibility of all of us, homosexuals included, to resist that temptation. I do have sympathy for these people but a "gay gene" is a way to shift the responsibility onto God.


126 posted on 11/27/2004 6:20:45 PM PST by reborn22
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To: RaceBannon

ping


127 posted on 03/28/2005 2:42:40 AM PST by Voir Dire
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To: Jeff Blogworthy; Savage Beast
Jeff Blogworthy: I agree with you to a point. I do not believe homosexuals can do anything about their desire. All people have certain weaknesses (sins) they tend to succumb to. For some it is greed, others womanizing, gambling, pornography, smoking, gossiping, overeating... name your sin of choice. But because I have strong temptations in some areas does not mean that I have that particular "sin gene."

But having a 'we can sex, but you shouldn't' mentality is the height of hypocrisy and causes your arguements to lose creditablity and respect.

128 posted on 03/28/2005 3:06:28 AM PST by Paul C. Jesup
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