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1 posted on 11/22/2004 5:54:53 PM PST by Laissez-faire capitalist
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist
Every proposal for an evolutionary origin of polonium radiohalos has been systematically and experimentally falsified.

Falsified, huh?

I suppose they mean "refuted", but who knows?

2 posted on 11/22/2004 5:57:46 PM PST by Izzy Dunne (Hello, I'm a TAGLINE virus. Please help me spread by copying me into YOUR tag line.)
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist
There is a refutation of this here.
3 posted on 11/22/2004 6:02:07 PM PST by Izzy Dunne (Hello, I'm a TAGLINE virus. Please help me spread by copying me into YOUR tag line.)
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Polonium halos are unambiguous evidence of both an almost instantaneous creation of granites and the young age of the Earth. The occurrence of these halos distinctly implies that our Earth was formed in a very short time, in complete harmony with the Biblical record of creation.

The National Academy of Sciences claims that the evidence for creation has been scientifically invalidated. The National Academy Of Sciences has, for over 15 years, though, refused to publicly explain where the polonium-halo evidence has ever been scientifically invalidated.

I wonder why.

This is an article that is definitely worth reading.

Be sure and go to the website and check out their letters and documents pertaining to their challenge to the National Academy of Science, as well as the other links there.
4 posted on 11/22/2004 6:02:36 PM PST by Laissez-faire capitalist
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist

So Dinosaurs were running around with Humans...

Or are our fossil records also wrong?

So give us an estimate...The earth is what....3000 years old?

I think you should call President Gore immediately about this....He knows what to do. If he is not available...call The Lochness Monster to investigate...


5 posted on 11/22/2004 6:03:48 PM PST by Bushite
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist
Summary of the above-mentioned refutation:

Gentry's polonium halo hypothesis for a young Earth fails all tests. Gentry's entire thesis is built on a compounded set of assumptions. He is unable to demonstrate that concentric haloes in mica are caused uniquely by alpha particles resulting from the decay of polonium isotopes. His samples are not from "primordial" pieces of the Earth's original crust, but from rocks which have been extensively reworked. Finally, his hypothesis cannot accommodate the many alternative lines of evidence that demonstrate a great age for the Earth. Gentry rationalizes any evidence which contradicts his hypothesis by proposing three "singularities" - one time divine interventions - over the past 6000 years. Of course, supernatural events and processes fall outside the realm of scientific investigations to address. As with the idea of variable radioactive decay rates, once Gentry moves beyond the realm of physical laws, his arguments fail to have any scientific usefulness. If divine action is necessary to fit the halo hypothesis into some consistent model of Earth history, why waste all that time trying to argue about the origins of the haloes based on current scientific theory? This is where most Creationist arguments break down when they try to adopt the language and trappings of science. Trying to prove a religious premise is itself an act of faith, not science.

In the end, Gentry's young Earth proposal, based on years of measuring discoloration haloes, is nothing more than a high-tech version of the Creationist "Omphalos" argument. This is the late nineteenth century proposition that while God created the Earth just 6,000 years ago according to the Genesis account, He made everything appear old. Unfortunately, because Gentry has published his original work on haloes in reputable scientific journals, a number of basic geology and mineralogy text books still state that microscopic discoloration haloes in mica are the result of polonium decay.

6 posted on 11/22/2004 6:05:14 PM PST by Izzy Dunne (Hello, I'm a TAGLINE virus. Please help me spread by copying me into YOUR tag line.)
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist

When you don't follow scientific methods of analysis, you can get any conclusion you want.


12 posted on 11/22/2004 6:14:01 PM PST by Kirkwood
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To: PatrickHenry; VadeRetro; Ichneumon

The creationists are resurrecting this hoary old canard. You'd think they'd do a bit of research before posting.


19 posted on 11/22/2004 6:21:16 PM PST by Junior (FABRICATI DIEM, PVNC)
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist
It is a not important how old or young the Earth may or may not be. IMHO.

Do not be concerned with endless genealogies. Also, the universe has no middle and no edge.
27 posted on 11/22/2004 6:49:14 PM PST by stockpirate (Not we must take our mandate and do the deed.)
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist
The exchanges with ICR are actually incredibly revealing, especially considering that ICR is a YEC organization itself.

This stuff is too goofy for ICR. That's not easy to do.

29 posted on 11/22/2004 6:53:50 PM PST by VadeRetro (Nothing means anything when you go to Hell for knowing what things mean.)
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To: GummyIII; lodity; R. Scott

ping


33 posted on 11/22/2004 7:20:49 PM PST by IllumiNaughtyByNature (I got a fever, and the only perscription is MORE COWBELLS!)
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist

About three weeks ago I received a radiocarbon date with an age over 4004 B.C. (5190 B.C., actually). How say you?


34 posted on 11/22/2004 7:23:05 PM PST by Coyoteman
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist

I believe there is Religion forum that is far more appropriate for your post than this one. Please use it next time.


36 posted on 11/22/2004 8:04:28 PM PST by NewMexLurker
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist

Am I still asleep and dreaming this?


46 posted on 11/23/2004 3:49:04 AM PST by kanawa (Only losers look for exit strategies. Winners figure out how to win.)
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist
"Polonium Halos: Unrefuted Evidence For Earth's Instant Creation. Fingerprints Of Creation."

I suppose it's too simple to point out that the word "Unrefuted" is far different from the word "Unrefutable". In this usage it simply means no has bothered.

52 posted on 11/23/2004 7:08:28 AM PST by muir_redwoods
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist
Evolution, the big bang, creationism.... LoL...
The only concusive evidence of all that is that Humans LOVE a good story..
And some humans will defend "that" story as if it isn't just a story..

Their must be a little democrat in every human...
Since the Democrat Party itself is just a story..
Everything the freepin party stands for is pure bullshit..
And the republicans are jealous...
(its all in my book).. d;-'

55 posted on 11/23/2004 7:19:03 AM PST by hosepipe (This propaganda has been edited to included some fully orbed hyperbole....)
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