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Why Islam Really Hates the West
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| November 24, 2004
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Posted on 11/24/2004 2:06:56 PM PST by quidnunc
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To: weenie
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posted on
11/24/2004 3:43:47 PM PST
by
weenie
("A lie gets halfway around the world before the truth has a chance to get its pants." -- Churchill)
To: joesnuffy
Whoops...forgot to add 'sarcasm' to my comment. Of course his original assumption was correct. Somewhere it is written mohammad contemplated suicide to still the voices. Wish he had.
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posted on
11/24/2004 3:45:24 PM PST
by
Fred Nerks
(Understand Evil: Read THE LIFE OF MUHAMMAD. Click Fred Nerks for link.)
To: bikepacker67
And we are going to have to do it in a big way so that they know that to "F" with us means instant death,
To: Fitzcarraldo
Seriously, without oil, even the shieks would be living in tents and herding goats. The Arabs are OK if they would just stay in the desert with their oil.
To: Fred Nerks
The imams know the danger of losing control over the next generation. Much has been made about how the 9/11 hijackers partied, drank alcohol, consorted with women and then went off to jihad.
It was explained to me from a Christian born Syria that after some of these people live in the west for a while and enjoy the decadence of our society they are more susceptible to being radicalized.
The imams get a hold of them and lay on a huge guilt trip. In other religions if you sin you ask God for forgiveness, repent and you are good to go. In Islam, Allah is not so forgiving, actions are all that count.
Thus, one act of jihad can wipe away a lifetime sin and decadence.
Its a sad facet of this situation, but an important element of understand how their minds work and what can lead well educated, seemingly westernized moderate to despicable acts of hatred.
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posted on
11/24/2004 3:53:17 PM PST
by
usurper
(Correct spelling is overrated)
To: SWAMPSNIPER
What the Hell does Epilepsy have to do with evil? He was just describing that animal and it's alleged work of fiction. Epilepsy was just part of the description in addition to evil.
This forum is no place for ignorance like this remark!
That's a lot better than this forum being no place for the accuracy of that remark.
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posted on
11/24/2004 4:02:47 PM PST
by
William Terrell
(Individuals can exist without government but government can't exist without individuals.)
Comment #47 Removed by Moderator
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posted on
11/24/2004 4:20:42 PM PST
by
SunkenCiv
("All I have seen teaches me trust the Creator for all I have not seen." -- Emerson)
To: quidnunc
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posted on
11/24/2004 4:22:39 PM PST
by
Baytovin
To: usurper
"Thus, one act of jihad can wipe away a lifetime of sin and decadence."
I read you loud and clear. This might be one of the reasons why so many converts to islam are from the prison population and numerous 'drop-kicks' (aussie expression) anti-socials and anarchists living on welfare, are prepared to enlist and carry out violent acts against their own society.
We have one locked up in gaol, married to an Indonesian woman, who admitted to various terror plots and visits to Bin Laden in Afghanistan. A migrant from Britain, he was planning an attack on the 2000 Olympic Games.
More recently, bail has been refused for 'Jihad Jack' who is awaiting sentence. Also married to an Indonesian woman. Same MO. Sold his soul for money and airplane tickets to visit with jihad big-wigs overseas. Yes, islam attracts the most foul, 'useful idiots' who would kill their own kin.
But meanwhile, islam loses its own children. The guilt-trips don't work with young folk who go to school with 'kuffar' children. They grow up and want to marry 'kuffar' people...and islam can't kill them all under the guise of 'honour killing' or accusations of apostasy. The clerics are very concerned.
This isn't an answer to what ails us as we attempt to live with these people...or convince our governments we want no more mooselimb immigration...but it's a good start. IMO.
As to 'what can lead well educated, seemingly westernized moderate to despicable acts of hatred' that's something that has fascinated me for a long time.Even after 20 years in a country, financially successful folk who have everything to lose, chose to leave their family behind, and become jihadi's. Sometimes I wonder if allah, paradise and virgins or 'forgiveness for sins' has anything to do with it at all. The opportunity to be seen as a 'warrior' by ones peers and the promise of travel etc...might just be less boring and more macho than going to work?
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posted on
11/24/2004 4:34:04 PM PST
by
Fred Nerks
(Understand Evil: Read THE LIFE OF MUHAMMAD. Click Fred Nerks for link.)
To: Baytovin
I'm sorry, too. Sorry just like you said it.
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posted on
11/24/2004 4:39:13 PM PST
by
Fred Nerks
(Understand Evil: Read THE LIFE OF MUHAMMAD. Click Fred Nerks for link.)
To: Stopislamnow
They forget the fact that the Koran is a vile, evil book written by a insane epileptic pedophilic murderer. Don't hold back so much. Tell us what you really think. :)
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posted on
11/24/2004 5:33:59 PM PST
by
Noachian
(A Democrat, by definition, is a Socialist.)
To: Noachian
I did hold back. When I unleash it, mods spank me.
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posted on
11/24/2004 5:39:53 PM PST
by
Stopislamnow
(This tagline a victim of humorless busybodies.)
To: johnb838
It's a cult not a religion. Mostly Always spread through conquest and intimidation.
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posted on
11/24/2004 5:44:08 PM PST
by
calenel
(The Democratic Party is the Socialist Mafia. It is a Criminal Enterprise.)
To: Stopislamnow
I did hold back. When I unleash it, mods spank me. LOL
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posted on
11/24/2004 5:56:05 PM PST
by
Noachian
(A Democrat, by definition, is a Socialist.)
To: ken5050
LOL ! But let's give'm the exploding type of batteries.
To: SWAMPSNIPER
"What the Hell does Epilepsy have to do with evil?"
Calm down. It is widely thought that Mo was possibly an epileptic because he'd go into long drawn-out trances, have strange visions, etc.
To: RightOnTheLeftCoast
I am beginning to become very short tempered with respondents who identify personally with comments that relate to the psychology/mental state of the 'prophet' - those who do so obviously have not bothered to read anything about the foul creature, nor have they absorbed much of what is continuously written here by posters who attempt to explain this particular issue; that mohammad was at the very least, if not outright insane, suffering from a major personallity disorder. That much is evident from a reading of the koran and hadith alone.
Any biography from a Western source (as against the islamic which gilds the lily) clearly shows, substatiated via ancient arabic sources, the man was schizophrenic, not 'divine' as claimed by his followers.
Hitler was a vegetarian. Are vegetarians upset when this is pointed out?
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posted on
11/24/2004 9:14:29 PM PST
by
Fred Nerks
(Understand Evil: Read THE LIFE OF MUHAMMAD. Click Fred Nerks for link.)
To: Fred Nerks
substantiated...spell correction.
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posted on
11/24/2004 9:15:59 PM PST
by
Fred Nerks
(Understand Evil: Read THE LIFE OF MUHAMMAD. Click Fred Nerks for link.)
To: quidnunc
Why Islam Really Hates the West
Strategy Page ^ | November 24, 2004 | Unattributed
And Unattributed for a very good reason. If I were to write this kind of narrow viewed drivel I wouldn't want anyone to know my name either.
Example: "Yes, most Moslems believed that the Westerners would slaughter thousands of their own people just to provide an excuse for a war on Islam."
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posted on
11/24/2004 9:22:26 PM PST
by
Valin
(Out Of My Mind; Back In Five Minutes)
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