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Microsoft offers amnesty program to pirated WinXP users
INQ7 ^ | 11/26/04 | Alexander F. Villafania

Posted on 11/26/2004 8:55:01 AM PST by JusticeTalion

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1 posted on 11/26/2004 8:55:01 AM PST by JusticeTalion
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To: JusticeTalion

Pirating XP? Why? I've never worked with such a miserable operating system. Perhaps this money and energy could have been put to better use improving the product.


2 posted on 11/26/2004 8:56:45 AM PST by johniegrad ('If only we smelled each other's a**, there wouldn't be any war.')
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To: JusticeTalion

I think XP is great. Except for the Service pack 2 update - some things about that really suck.

I bought one of these OEM versions because it was the cheapest way to go. According to the vendors who do this, the OEM version must be sold with "hardware" but the word "hardware" is not necessarily defined as a new computer. I received a "free mouse" with my software which supposedly qualifies it as OEM.

I do not know if this is legal or not. I figured the vendor did their homework.


3 posted on 11/26/2004 9:01:44 AM PST by Jeff Blogworthy
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I've been around computers longer than a lot of people here have walked the earth, and IMHO, Bill got things right (finally) with XP.
I have had one machine running for almost two years straight in XP, and never had a problem with it.
Yea, it is a memory hog, but with RAM still a great bargain, just upgrade.
Donning my flame- retardant suit for the influx of Apple and Linux geeks. :)
4 posted on 11/26/2004 9:02:05 AM PST by newcats
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It is hard to put reason into business planning when you are the defacto monopoly righ out of the chute in this, or any other industry. MS is still blinded by arrogance and greed, and it shows in their predatory marketing, which has become more important than trying to erase their image of putting out half-baked software to keep stockholders happy, while putting the consumer through "service pack hell".

It is standard MS. I still do not understand why someone has not made a competitive OS for the computer user/consumer (no not Linux) and taken a large share of MS's market. It is there for the taking.


5 posted on 11/26/2004 9:04:18 AM PST by EagleUSA
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Good! It's about time Microsoft did something about all of the guys who sell dirt-cheap PC's out of their garages, loaded with pirated software. These kinds of people make it extremely difficult for legitmate systems builders who can't compete on price when their competitors aren't paying for the software.
6 posted on 11/26/2004 9:05:21 AM PST by MTOrlando
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To: newcats
"I have had one machine running for almost two years straight in XP"

Two and 1/2 years no problems here. Had to fix a couple things after SP2, but no biggie.

BTW, I've got 98SE on another machine and that's been very reliable too.

Been using Microsoft products for over twenty years since CPM came bundled with my Kaypro II.

7 posted on 11/26/2004 9:06:48 AM PST by billorites (freepo ergo sum)
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To: EagleUSA

Why not Linux?


8 posted on 11/26/2004 9:07:29 AM PST by Publius6961 (The most abundant things in the universe are hydrogen and stupidity.)
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To: billorites

I agree with you and the others about SP2. I may just format my new machine without it, beef up my firewall and anti-virus and see what happens.


9 posted on 11/26/2004 9:08:41 AM PST by newcats
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Pirates! Arrrrrr, where's me bird?

Seriously though, MTOrlando has a good point. I am in the computer business (mostly repair and support), and there is almost no possible way to sell an honest PC with duly licensed software anymore. The competition from the garage builders and volume dealers like Dell makes it very unprofitable for a small computer dealer to sell honestly licensed systems.


10 posted on 11/26/2004 9:09:04 AM PST by GaltMeister (The only time a Democrat should only be allowed in the White House is to visit the President.)
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I got out of the hardware business a couple of years ago... every now and then I quote a system, and I've found I can usually get pretty close to Dell and Gateway, but the pirate builders around here are cutthroat - they'll sell a white box with the latest OS and pro version of Office for 5% over hardware cost.


11 posted on 11/26/2004 9:13:16 AM PST by MTOrlando
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To: Publius6961
Why?
Plus, I am way too old to learn a whole new OS. :)
DOS, Winders 3.1, FORTRAN then the 9x.
Damn I'm old
12 posted on 11/26/2004 9:16:16 AM PST by newcats
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To: Publius6961
Why not Linux?

I have a couple of Red Hat machines here, and like it a lot. But it is not ready for the masses yet, and still needs some geekish playing around to make it work, especially with some hardware, and there are just too many things for "Joe Plug and Play" to learn and adapt to at present.

Ximian is a great email client. Linux represents a lot of work by a lot of people.

Just a little more time.

13 posted on 11/26/2004 9:23:03 AM PST by Gorzaloon (This tagline intentionally left blank.)
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To: johniegrad
I've never worked with such a miserable operating system.

What...you've never worked with Windows 95?

14 posted on 11/26/2004 9:23:16 AM PST by capt. norm (Rap is to music what the Etch-A-Sketch is to art.)
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Why? I've never worked with such a miserable operating system.

Exactly. To get something workable, one has to go through and turn off all the crap that runs and/or reports home in the background (auto update, that auto backup thingy, the playskool interface, win messenger, that layer of dumbing-down drek between user and file manager, and so on and so on).

Do all that and what one is left with is Win2k.

15 posted on 11/26/2004 9:24:47 AM PST by Petronski (Siam's gonna be the witness to the ultimate test of cerebral fitness.)
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To: JusticeTalion

BTTT


16 posted on 11/26/2004 9:26:07 AM PST by Fiddlstix (This Tagline for sale. (Presented by TagLines R US))
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To: MTOrlando

Same here, I have a storefront business, doing 99.9% repairs and upgrades. With all the brother in laws, and folks out there who 'know a lot about computers', I get to untangle a lot of thier messes as it is. Then there are the people who want you to make a home serice call and spend 3 hours dealing with their problems, while the dog barks at you, kids mess with you, constand questions, etc, and then want to pay you $25.00 like they did 'that other guy' who came over last time.

LOL - I tell them to call him back; seems like they can never get hold of him again.

Computer hardware is a commodity anymore, the only profit is in moving large volumes of it, and even then, the profits are razor thin.


17 posted on 11/26/2004 9:30:38 AM PST by GaltMeister (The only time a Democrat should only be allowed in the White House is to visit the President.)
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To: newcats
Donning my flame- retardant suit for the influx of Apple and Linux geeks. :)

I would suggest that the one using a Windows computer is the GEEK... With my Mac G5, and OSX, I don't need to be bothered with technicality! I get to use my computer, without always "tweeking"...

Not flaming, since you obviously have no clue, anyways! Apparently, you just wanted to bust on a product, superior to that which you are happy with... enjoy yourself!

Firefox, a linux program from Mozilla, is a great browser, too! It's almost as stable as Safari... or do you use IE?

18 posted on 11/26/2004 9:31:40 AM PST by pageonetoo (I could name them, but you'll spot their posts soon enough.)
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Damn I'm old

Maybe you should be oldcats instead of newcats. J But I'm right there with you. I've worked with the same old stuff.

19 posted on 11/26/2004 9:32:09 AM PST by scripter (Tens of thousands have left the homosexual lifestyle)
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To: Publius6961

I am quite familiar with Linux which I use for scientific work. But Linux is not an operating system for the "consumer user" -- a great system though for the enthusiast, or very advanced user, who is willing to put the time in to learn the system. Frankly, if Linux had the aftermarket support that Windows has, or even a reasonable fraction of it, it would be my primary...as opposed to secondary.

I certainly am for the 'open source' initiative, and hope that Linux gains more support with upcoming releases.


20 posted on 11/26/2004 9:33:53 AM PST by EagleUSA
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