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You don't know me and haven't read my posts for the past yr and 8 months.


137 posted on 11/27/2004 3:24:27 PM PST by nuconvert (Everyone has a photographic memory. Some don't have film.)
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To: nuconvert
Here's an entire site dedicated to Muslims Condemning Terrorist Attacks:

http://www.muhajabah.com/otherscondemn.php

However, lets not forget Muslims may lie -- taquiya, or takeyya, the Islamic principle of lying for the sake of Allah.

Here is what I found in regard to these so called "Moderates":

American Muslim Alliance and American Muslim Council

AMC on terrorism: "We are all supporters of Hamas! Allahu Akhbar! ... I am also a supporter of Hezbollah" (AMC founder Abdurahman Alamoudi, Associated Press, Jan. 9, 2002).

AMC on the United States: "I think if we were outside this country, we can say, 'Oh, Allah, destroy America,' but once we are here, our mission in this country is to change it. There is no way for Muslims to be violent in America, no way. We have other means to do it. You can be violent anywhere else but in America" (Alamoudi to Islamic Association of Palestine, Chicago, Dec. 29, 1996).

AMC on Hamas: "Hamas is not a terrorist group. ... I have followed the good work of Hamas. ... They have a wing that is a violent wing. They had to resort to some kind of violence" (Alamoudi, National Press Club, Nov. 22, 1994).

AMC on al-Qaeda: "They are involved in a resistance movement" (Vickers, MSNBC's Hardball With Chris Matthews, June 27, 2002 ).

1998, the American Muslim Council, the American Muslim Alliance and the Council on American-Islamic Relations sponsored a rally at Brooklyn College in New York City, New York where militant speakers urged upon the audience the path of Jihad and described Jews as "pigs and monkeys". The following year these same groups, together with the Muslim Public Affairs Council, sponsored a rally in Santa Clara, California where one speaker called for the murder of Jews.

Council on American-Islamic Relations (CAIR)

"Those who stay in America should be open to society without melting, keeping Mosques open so anyone can come and learn about Islam. If you choose to live here, you have a responsibility to deliver the message of Islam ...... Islam isn't in America to be equal to any other faiths, but to become dominant. The Koran, the Muslim book of scripture, should be the highest authority in America, and Islam the only accepted religion on Earth." - Omar Ahmad

"I am in support of the Hamas movement." -Nihad Awad

" I wouldn't want to create the impression that I wouldn't like the government of the United States to be Islamic sometime in the future... But I'm not going to do anything violent to promote that. I'm going to do it through education." -Ibrahim Hooper

"CAIR does not support these groups publicly." (when asked about CAIR's record of supporting Hamas, Hezbullah and other official terrorist groups) -Ibrahim Hooper

"I bring to you salaams and greetings from the Mujahadeen at CAIR." (Statement made during a Washington D.C. rally)

"Anyone over 18 is automatically inducted into the service and they are all reserves. Therefore, Hamas, in my opinion, looks at them as part of the military." -Ghazi Khankan

Since well before 9/11, CAIR and other organizations have alleged to speak on behalf of Americas peaceful, moderate Muslims, while simultaneously lending support and funds to terrorist causes.

CAIR is a direct outgrowth of the Islamic Association of Palestine (IAP). According to Oliver Revell, the FBI's former associate director of Counter-IntelligenceOperations, the IAP is an organization that has directly supported [the Palestinian terror group] Hamas' military goals.

At the Islamic Association of Palestine's third annual convention in Chicago in November 1999, CAIR President Omar Ahmad gave a speech at a youth session praising suicide bombers who "kill themselves for Islam." "Fighting for freedom, fighting for Islam that is not suicide. They kill themselves for Islam".

Islamic Society of North America

According to terrorism expert Steve Emerson, ISNA:

* has held fundraisers for terrorists (e.g., after Hamas leader Musa Marzuk was arrested, it raised money for his defense, claiming he was innocent and not connected to terrorism)

* has condemned US seizure of Hamas and Palestinian Islamic Jihad assets in the United States after 9/11

* has consistently sponsored speakers at their conferences that defend Islamic terrorists. Recently, a leader denied in an interview with an NBC affiliate that ISNA took any Saudi money but that was a brazen lie as evidenced by a recording of an ISNA conference in which it was revealed that money came from Saudi Arabia.

"ISNA," says Emerson, "is a radical group hiding under a false veneer of moderation."

Islamic Circle of North America

Regarding the Universal Heritage Foundation's patron organization, the ICNA [Islamic Circle of North America] counter terrorism expert Steven Emerson stated that: 'The ICNA’s hatred of the Jews is so fierce that it taunted them with a repetition of what Hitler did to them.' In his book - American Jihad - Emerson writes that, 'The ICNA openly supports militant Islamic fundamentalist organizations, praises terror attacks, issues incendiary attacks on western values and policies, and supports the imposition of Sharia [Islamic code of law].

AMPAC (on bin Laden being responsible for 9/11)

The Sharî'ah demands proof. There are already religious rulings from the highest authorities in the Muslim world, such as the Grand Mufti of Saudi Arabia, condemning the terrorist attacks and calling for the perpetrators to be punished. All that remains is the proof linking these crimes to Bin Laden.

To make demands on Afghanistan without showing proof is just bullying. To put Afghanistan in the cross hairs without showing proof is vigilantism. To pull the trigger is murder. -Amir Butler

Canadian Society of Muslims

Critics say moderation within the Muslim community is only a facade concealing a bitter emnity towards western liberal, pluralist society and supporting militant violence internationally.

"There's certainly some evidence that some of them - perhaps not all of them - have a different story to tell when they're speaking not in English, usually Arabic," says retired Canadian diplomat Martin Collacott.

140 posted on 11/27/2004 3:57:32 PM PST by Tx Angel
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