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US Dollar has sunk to record lows against Euro
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Posted on 11/27/2004 10:24:13 AM PST by soccer_linux_mozilla

The United States’ trade deficit is soaring and the once high-flying dollar has sunk to record lows against Europe’s common currency.

The dollar’s record low against the euro coincided with the government’s report that the United States was running a trade deficit through September at annual rate of 592 billion dollars. That compares with last year’s record 496 dollars billion. As a result, the country is having to borrow almost 600 billion dollars from overseas this year to pay for the imported cars, televisions and other items Americans are buying.



TOPICS: Business/Economy
KEYWORDS: currency; deficit; dollar; euro; federalreserve; trade; tradedeficit
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To: Poohbah

The EU, possible. But Japan and Taiwan might be helping us out as Indonesian and Malaysia grow to dominate ASEAN.


401 posted on 11/29/2004 11:06:15 AM PST by hchutch (A pro-artificial turf, pro-designated hitter baseball fan.)
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To: hchutch
The EU, possible. But Japan and Taiwan might be helping us out as Indonesian and Malaysia grow to dominate ASEAN.

I think the troubles in China will lead to troubles in Indonesia and Malaysia.

Basically, the one thing keeping folks in Indonesia and Malaysia from lynching the ethnic Chinese in those countries is fear of annoying Beijing.

Remove that fear...

402 posted on 11/29/2004 11:08:02 AM PST by Poohbah (Crush your enemies, see them driven before you, and hear the lamentations of their women!)
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To: Southack
Economic growth is not deflationary. Office rental prices do NOT deflate just because you have a hot economic zone. Home prices do not decline in economic boom towns (look at Vegas, please). Salaries do not decline when your company is growing.

Southack, you're really losing it on this thread. Of course economic growth is deflationary. Office rents will decline if our growth included lots of new rental properties. Home prices will decline if we build lots of new houses.

If inflation is too much money chasing too few goods (money becomes worth less,buys less) then of course too many goods chasing too little money is deflation (money becomes worth more, buys more).

403 posted on 11/29/2004 11:21:31 AM PST by Toddsterpatriot (Protectionists give me the Willies!!!)
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To: soccer_linux_mozilla
We're on our way to a status close to Third World.

These jackasses we elect and re-elect to spend and spend are as complicit as the "American" (in name only) corporations who spend big bucks overseas to bring the cheap doo-dads to our marketplace.

All this destruction of our economy seems almost contrived. The poorer our nation is, and the more debt is accumulated, the easier it is to fold into the world of nations as though it were another South Africa.

404 posted on 11/29/2004 11:28:29 AM PST by JesseHousman
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To: Toddsterpatriot
"Southack, you're really losing it on this thread. Of course economic growth is deflationary."

So prices for goods and rents are *lower* in the U.S. today, after 74 years of economic growth, than they were in 1930?

Do you even understand what "deflationary" means?!

405 posted on 11/29/2004 11:33:09 AM PST by Southack (Media Bias means that Castro won't be punished for Cuban war crimes against Black Angolans in Africa)
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To: Southack
If you import more than you export, then your currency is overvalued. If you export more than you import, then your currency is undervalued.

South, come on. You really believe this? Do you have a source for this belief or did you come up with it on your own?

406 posted on 11/29/2004 11:34:50 AM PST by Toddsterpatriot (Protectionists give me the Willies!!!)
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To: Toddsterpatriot

c#392


407 posted on 11/29/2004 11:36:10 AM PST by Southack (Media Bias means that Castro won't be punished for Cuban war crimes against Black Angolans in Africa)
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To: Southack
So prices for goods and rents are *lower* in the U.S. today, after 74 years of economic growth, than they were in 1930?

Didn't even come close to saying that. I said growth is deflationary. Didn't say growth causes deflation.

Do you even understand what "deflationary" means?!

Yes, do you? Do you know what inflation is?

408 posted on 11/29/2004 11:37:39 AM PST by Toddsterpatriot (Protectionists give me the Willies!!!)
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To: Southack

I can see your reasoning through out this thread, but wonder about the resurgence of American manufacturing. I am involved in the furniture industry and it seems that imported parts (and entire pieces imported unfinished KD) are integral to many of the American manufacturers I deal with. The weak dollar is wreaking havoc on bids we have out on many jobs. Even with the rising costs of imports in the last couple of years; the manufacturers making parts here (union labor etc...) had such high pricing that companies who imported part if not all of the product could still be more competitive.
In the eighties I worked for a manufacturer who was forced to import to remain competitive. Many companies wanted to control their quality by controlling the manufacturing, but had to compromise to stay in business. In the nineties the tradeshows were swamped with Chinese attendees collecting any and all product literature they could get their hands on. They are great imitators and can copy just about any product/design on the market. Major problem was their quality, but they have addressed that as well. Any company I work with who imports from Europe, frankly isn't getting any business from me right now. On the otherhand I have a couple of companies that are 100% American made products and business started ticking up right after the election.


409 posted on 11/29/2004 11:42:37 AM PST by antceecee
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To: Toddsterpatriot
"I said growth is deflationary. Didn't say growth causes deflation."

Does economic growth in your world cause *any* level of deflation?

410 posted on 11/29/2004 11:44:00 AM PST by Southack (Media Bias means that Castro won't be punished for Cuban war crimes against Black Angolans in Africa)
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To: Southack
To illustrate the concept, simply consider a narrow test case of two island nations trading only with each other. When one exports more to the other than it imports, it will have a surplus of the currency from the other island.

Interesting idea. Now, what if there are no good investments in the exporting country? What if the growth rate of the importing country is higher? Maybe the rational currency holder prefers the currency to what they could receive in exchange for it?

Do you know what a surplus does to supply and demand and price?

What's a "surplus"?

411 posted on 11/29/2004 11:44:24 AM PST by Toddsterpatriot (Protectionists give me the Willies!!!)
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To: Southack
Does economic growth in your world cause *any* level of deflation?

Inflation is a monetary phenomenon. If the money supply grows at 10% a year and GDP grows at 6% a year, the inflation rate is 4%.

If money supply grows at 10% a year but GDP grows at 12%, then deflation is 2%.

412 posted on 11/29/2004 11:50:23 AM PST by Toddsterpatriot (Protectionists give me the Willies!!!)
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To: Toddsterpatriot
"Southack, you're really losing it on this thread. Of course economic growth is deflationary."
413 posted on 11/29/2004 11:53:45 AM PST by Southack (Media Bias means that Castro won't be punished for Cuban war crimes against Black Angolans in Africa)
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To: Toddsterpatriot
"Inflation is a monetary phenomenon."
414 posted on 11/29/2004 11:54:02 AM PST by Southack (Media Bias means that Castro won't be punished for Cuban war crimes against Black Angolans in Africa)
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To: Southack

What's your point? You disagree?


415 posted on 11/29/2004 11:54:58 AM PST by Toddsterpatriot (Protectionists give me the Willies!!!)
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To: Toddsterpatriot

You are disagreeing with yourself.

416 posted on 11/29/2004 11:56:10 AM PST by Southack (Media Bias means that Castro won't be punished for Cuban war crimes against Black Angolans in Africa)
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To: Southack
You are disagreeing with yourself.

Not at all. What causes inflation?

417 posted on 11/29/2004 11:57:38 AM PST by Toddsterpatriot (Protectionists give me the Willies!!!)
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To: Toddsterpatriot

Yes, you are disagreeing with yourself. On the one hand you claim that economic growth is deflationary, but on the other hand you claim that deflation is strictly a monetary phenomenon.

Economic growth is different than "monetary phenomenon," thus, you are disagreeing with yourself.

418 posted on 11/29/2004 12:00:38 PM PST by Southack (Media Bias means that Castro won't be punished for Cuban war crimes against Black Angolans in Africa)
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To: Southack
So, you don't know what causes inflation?
419 posted on 11/29/2004 12:01:43 PM PST by Toddsterpatriot (Protectionists give me the Willies!!!)
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To: Toddsterpatriot

Are you just trying to be argumentative?

420 posted on 11/29/2004 12:02:27 PM PST by Southack (Media Bias means that Castro won't be punished for Cuban war crimes against Black Angolans in Africa)
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