He did not need to, he can be quite "frugal". Sorosian training/logistics for the colored revolution/"democratic" coup could be paid in full by the Iron Princess - Yulia Timoshenko.
Posted on 11/27/2004 8:58:12 PM PST by Happy2BMe
It's November: time for a revolution in a former Soviet republic
Sat Nov 27 2004 22:46:46 ET
MOSCOW (AFP) - November is fast becoming the month for revolutions in former Soviet republics -- a year after Georgia peacefully ousted its communist-era leadership Ukraine could be next to follow suit.
"It'll be the same as in Georgia," vowed Oleg Seyko as he rode a bus headed toward Ukraine's capital Kiev filled with people who, like him, were clad in the opposition's color orange.
Thousands of people like 21-year-old Seyko have poured into the streets as part of the pro-Western opposition's well-organized campaign over a disputed election -- which bears an eerie resemblance to what happened in Georgia a year ago.
Back then, massive crowds protested at what they said were rigged parliamentary elections, eventually forcing veteran leader Eduard Shevardandze to step aside in favor of a Western-educated reformer, Mikhail Saakashvili.
Today the crowds are in Ukraine railing against a presidential poll they say was stolen by the government of long-time leader Leonid Kuchma from Western-leaning opposition leader Viktor Yushchenko, accusing pro-Russian Prime Minister Viktor Yanukovich of stealing the election through ballot fraud.
Whether the protesters will succeed remains uncertain. But the similarities between the two uprisings are not difficult to find.
Like Georgia, Ukraine has a youth opposition movement that has been instrumental in rallying people to join the protests -- Tbilisi had Kmara (Enough), Kiev has Pora (It is Time).
Both are modeled on Serbia's Otpor (Resistance), which played a key role in bringing down Slobodan Milosevic in 2000.
Like Georgia, Ukraine's opposition leader favors orienting his country away from Moscow toward the West to cheers from Washington and European capitals and to Russia's great annoyance ("This test is more trying than the famous events in Georgia," Kremlin's point man on Europe grimly warned on Saturday).
Furthermore the leaders of the two revolutions are friends -- Georgia's Saakashvili attended university in Ukraine and shortly after leading his "rose revolution" came to Kiev to sign a cooperation pact with Yushchenko.
And finally the two leaders both have pretty, Western wives -- Saakashvili's spouse is Dutch while Yushchenko's is American.
"What happened in Georgia a year ago is something that a lot of people in Ukraine are aware of," said Mark Mullen, the chief of Transparency International in Georgia who witnessed firsthand Tbilisi's revolution.
Whether Ukraine will have an "orange revolution" to match Georgia's "rose" one is far from clear.
"Ukraine is not quite like Georgia," said Olexander Sushko, a political analyst in Kiev. "In Georgia 90 percent of the population backed Saakashvili. In Ukraine up to 30 percent don't back Yushchenko and their interests need to be taken into account."
"But Yushchenko clearly has the support of most of the country," he said.
Indeed the opposition's chances were boosted late on Thursday when journalists at Ukraine's national television channels shrugged of censorship and began to cover the opposition rallies -- a sympathetic national channel was critical to the success of Georgia's revolution last year.
Yushchenko supporters vow that they will not be outdone by their Georgian counterparts of last year.
"It took them three weeks in Georgia," said Zinovy Siryk, mayor of the opposition bastion of Lviv in western Ukraine. "We'll go on for three months if we have to."
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"What happened in Georgia a year ago is something that a lot of people in Ukraine are aware of," said Mark Mullen, the chief of Transparency International in Georgia who witnessed firsthand Tbilisi's revolution."
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This almost sounds like the Democrats trying to steal another election.
(Last seen on a plane owned by George Soros leaving NYC.)
Soros has been in the Ukraine giving millions to Yushchenko, and now everybody is going to believe the opposition are the good guys. I would have thought we learned something about the MSM from the last election.
I thought the TEN DAYS THAT SHOOK THE WORLD took place in December, not November
You have the roles reversed here. Putin's favored candidate stole the election the same way Democrats stole the 1960 election in Illinois. Multi-votes, ballot-stuffing, the whole works.
Soros hasn't given Yushchenko a dime. It's an urban legend.
However, I don't think that the United States should play into the hands of Putin & Co., which will also, incidentally, diminish the stature of Yushchenko in the eyes of many Ukrainians, by overtly exerting pressure on his opponent.
If this situation plays itself out as a repeat of NATO's actions in Serbia, it will ultimately backfire, to the detriment of Western Europe, the United States and the Ukraine.
No, the communists/socialists know just how to handle a revolution, they've had years of Soros backing and training to get it right.
Wait till the next election and it is the Republicans who are the evil villans on the receiving end of a Soros youth movement to put their champion Hitlery in place. Then the fun really starts.
Problem is, in this little scenario, most Ukrainians live in the blue area not the orange, they live in the pro-Russian south and east, which is also where all the agriculture and industry is and what this will be is plain civil war. Soros wins regardless. Maybe not the whole prize but a goodly chunk of it.
Soros calls on Kuchma to step aside, make way for Yushchenko Ukrainian News
Gee, guess you missed Moveon.org and $30 million to get rid of Bush. After all, just keep repeating that Soros is a friend of democracy.
This is restoration of mob rule, just like the Soros-financed coup d'etats in Serbia and Georgia, and can not lead to positive results if successful. (And there is no reason to suppose that it will be, just because the biased western media portrays it as such.)
regards,
The irregularities were everywhere - in pro Yushchenko districts (where in some places he got unlikely high percentage of votes and Yukanovich supporters were intimidated) as well as in pro Yukanovich districts.
Orange revolutionaries would like to repeat voting only in Yukanovich districts until the desired result is achieved. Or better yet to do without the new election altogether - just put the correct "winner" in the office, proclaim the victory of "democracy" and follow happily the path of Djindjic Serbia. Exit polls do not lie, do they?
Kiev where the main demonstrations take place is 75% for Yushchenko. The analogy with US would be be blue states (which tend be pro-EU, more secular, more afluent, more white collar) corresponding to Kiev and Westernized West. Working class, industrial south/east of Ukraine would be like US red states. The full analogy would be if Boston, New York or San Francisco were the US capital.
He did not need to, he can be quite "frugal". Sorosian training/logistics for the colored revolution/"democratic" coup could be paid in full by the Iron Princess - Yulia Timoshenko.
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