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How Kerry whistleblower suffered for truth [Swiftboat vet Steve Gardner]
Chicago Sun-Times ^ | November 29, 2004 | BY MARY LANEY

Posted on 11/29/2004 4:30:45 AM PST by johnny7

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To: johnny7; Iris7
Yep, 250 highly decorated vets all getting capped would have gotten around the MSM info black-out, even if they were carefully "accidented". Also, it would have been much harder to smear them if they were murder victims.

Since Kerry is making gurgling sounds about running again, I suspect that the rest of the SBVTs would immediately reactivate if a suspicious accident killed one of their own, especially one as prominent as Steve Gardner.

21 posted on 11/29/2004 4:54:03 AM PST by Sal
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To: KwasiOwusu

I just tried to logon to the SBVT discussion boards to check for a thread about helping Gardner and they're shut down...says try later...unusual.

I'm all for helping out a real Hero.
Let's find out more about his former company too.


22 posted on 11/29/2004 4:54:04 AM PST by WebTalk (Whatever it takes!)
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To: Cicero
"This seems to be the company that fired him:

http://www.millinfo.com/productsandservices.htm "

It may be time for Millennium Information Services Inc to be given a taste of their own medicine, by being put on a blacklist of evil companies that need to be boycotted by conservative entities and denied any contracts they bid for .
These clowns bet their company on a Hanoi John Kerry victory. They lost big time, and now they may very well find themselves paying the price for their sleazy, nasty behavior.
23 posted on 11/29/2004 4:57:55 AM PST by KwasiOwusu
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To: kcvl
"Open Secrets shows John Pietrzak, president of Millennium Information Services, gave $500 to Carol Moseley-Braun in 1997, with earlier amounts to Tom Harkin and Dan Rostenkowski. No money to Republicans."

Figures. Why am I not surprised?
24 posted on 11/29/2004 5:00:10 AM PST by KwasiOwusu
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To: Ambient
Something has to be done to help him...these guys did so much to expose Kerry, not to mention their service in Vietnam...It must have been gut wrenching to drudge up all this past stuff and have to think about it day and night and figure out what to do to get the truth out about Kerry. It's a GREAT day in America now that this piece of crap lost so lets get together and help Steve Gardner get back on his feet. He's a true hero for sticking his neck out!
25 posted on 11/29/2004 5:01:16 AM PST by ladiesview61
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To: Tax Government

Alas, a lawyer would be of little help. 99% of the time (albeit dependant on the state), an employer can fire its employee for any reason, EXCEPT: race, sex, religion, disability, national origin, refusing to commit an illegal act, and in retribution for filing a workers' comp claim.

I do not hire Democrats, for example. I fing them lazy, stupid, and much more likely to blame others for their shortcomings. They also do not get along with others in my conservative workplace.

I would be loath to give up my First Amendemnt right of association (which includes, by necessity, the right of dis-association).

What he needs is a Republican to hire him.


26 posted on 11/29/2004 5:03:05 AM PST by MeanWestTexan
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To: johnny7

BTTT


27 posted on 11/29/2004 5:10:01 AM PST by spodefly (I've posted nothing but BTTT over 1000 times!!!)
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To: WebTalk
"I just tried to logon to the SBVT discussion boards to check for a thread about helping Gardner and they're shut down...says try later...unusual"

I think they are back in business.
I just logged on to the SBVT site.
Can't see any thread about helping Gardner though.
28 posted on 11/29/2004 5:15:44 AM PST by KwasiOwusu
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To: Sal

I would bet on "suicide", not on "accident."


29 posted on 11/29/2004 5:16:09 AM PST by Iris7 (.....to protect the Constitution from all enemies, both foreign and domestic. Same bunch, anyway.)
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To: johnny7

Ok, Freepers - it's time for all of us to pull together for this guy and help him. Someone's gotta be able to help him find a job, and maybe we should even work on getting up some $$$ for him.....anyone got some ideas?


30 posted on 11/29/2004 5:22:33 AM PST by Arlis
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To: johnny7

Indredibly sad story.


31 posted on 11/29/2004 5:25:36 AM PST by MizSterious (First, the journalists, THEN the lawyers.)
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To: Ambient; Arlis; beyond the sea; johnny7; All

Okay, there are too many Steven Gardners in SC. I can't find him without more data - like middle name, etc. Therefore we'll have to write to Swiftees to find out how and if he can be reached for donations. I'm willing to do the legwork - will see where it goes from there.


32 posted on 11/29/2004 5:25:45 AM PST by anniegetyourgun
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To: Arlis

I'm on my way out of town for the day--but if anyone sets something up, would someone please give me a ping?


33 posted on 11/29/2004 5:26:27 AM PST by MizSterious (First, the journalists, THEN the lawyers.)
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To: Iris7

Ah yes, the tried and true Clintonian method.


34 posted on 11/29/2004 5:30:41 AM PST by Sal
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To: kittymyrib
suing the pants off of Kerry and that odious "historian" Brinkley.
My dream is to see the day that the Federal Communications Propaganda Commission is sued for allowing and promoting the fraudulent use by its licensees of The New York Times as a standard of objectivity.

They have no choice but to do it, of course - otherwise they would have to admit that the entire reason d' etre of broadcast journalism is a fraud.

Newspapers (such as the NYT) are necessessarily protected by the First Amendment, meaning that they cannot be sued for being wrong, or for omitting an important truth. Broadcasters, being licensed as the Constitution does not permit newspapers to be licensed, have no real First Amendment protection and consequently must put up a false front of objectivity. Since that is already the commercial posture of the NYT, it is natural that the two would find it important to go along and get along with each other.

Only the false front of objectivity motivates the unanimity of the broadcasters, subverted only at the margins by talk radio and the Fox News Channel. Only the unanimity of the broadcasters made the Kerry campaign appear respectable in the face of truth telling by most of Kerry's comrades and superiors. Without that, the absurdity of the nomination of a hero of the enemy to be Commander-in-Chief would have been patent.


35 posted on 11/29/2004 5:31:30 AM PST by conservatism_IS_compassion (The idea around which liberalism coheres is that NOTHING actually matters but PR.)
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To: MEG33

Obviously the company wasn't worth working for anyhow if politics is the only basis used for job performance.

Steven Gardner will find a better job. In the mean time, he needs our support.


36 posted on 11/29/2004 5:31:45 AM PST by o_zarkman44
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To: johnny7

How about have Gardner tell his story through speaking engagements? or writing a book?

Somebody - somewhere - one should be able to help him.


37 posted on 11/29/2004 5:34:58 AM PST by El Oviedo
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To: Jim Robinson
Before I proceed to get info on where we can send donations for this guy, I must ask if you are willing to utilize this forum in this way? If so, do you want us to do it on this thread - or provide a link to it with a new thread to raise funds for this gentleman?

And, perhaps you already have the means and connections with Swiftees to obtain a safe address (not his home) to which donations for Mr. Gardner can be sent? I don't want to reinvent the wheel.

38 posted on 11/29/2004 5:35:01 AM PST by anniegetyourgun
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To: El Oviedo; johnny7; Arlis; beyond the sea; o_zarkman44; Sal; MizSterious; KwasiOwusu; spodefly; ...

See #38


39 posted on 11/29/2004 5:38:22 AM PST by anniegetyourgun
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To: johnny7

If he was a direct employee of Millennium Information Services he would qualify for unemployment benefits while looking for other work.

Sounds like he might have been an independent contractor. And, if so, no unemployment benefits. The e-mail "firing" would be more understandable in that case - yet still slimy.


40 posted on 11/29/2004 5:39:19 AM PST by jackbill
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