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Can't bury 'Treasure' [Hollywood Hope: National treasure, Incredibles still on top! ]
Ny Daily news ^ | 11/29/2004 | DAVID HINCKLEY

Posted on 11/29/2004 5:00:45 AM PST by SolutionsOnly

More moviegoers used the Thanksgiving weekend to catch up with the hits "National Treasure" and "The Incredibles" than to see the year's two biggest holiday-theme flicks or the new epic "Alexander." "National Treasure," in which Nicolas Cage follows a centuries-old legend to a mother lode of historical riches, finished in first place by earning an estimated $33.1 million from Friday to yesterday.

Pixar Animation's "The Incredibles," the bemused tale of superheroes put out to pasture in suburbia, took second with an estimated $24.1 million.

The weekend's two new movies, "Christmas With the Kranks" and Oliver Stone's "Alexander," both settled into the middle of the pack.

"Kranks," a much-hyped film starring Tim Allen and Jamie Lee Curtis as a couple that tries to skip Christmas, overcame terrible reviews to finish third with $22.7 million.

"Alexander," which stars Colin Farrell as Alexander the Great and cost $155 million to produce, earned a disappointing $13.5 million to finish sixth.

The other major holiday-theme film, "The Polar Express," which stars Tom Hanks in a heartwarming Christmas adventure done with high-tech animation, earned an estimated $20.1 million. That brings its total to $82.2 million, less than half of what it cost to produce.

Much happier were the producers of "SpongeBob SquarePants," the animated sponge who made his reputation on Nickelodeon and has earned $58.6 million at the movie box office. He finished fifth this week with $19.6 million.


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KEYWORDS: family; hollywood; movies; values
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It's encourageing to see these movies do so well. I saw both of them and they were both excellent, clean entertainment. If you haven't seen these movies - Do! These box office numbers send a strong message to Hollywood the clean up their acts - because it's profitable to do so!

At the same time, I take some satisfaction is seening 'Alexander' flop. I haven't seen it despite my love of history. I essentially boycott movies that have inject political agendas or make appeals to the darker side of human nature. It's heartenening to see I'm not alone. And these box office numbers send a strong message to Hollywood - we're not interested in rewriting history subject to your warped values!

1 posted on 11/29/2004 5:00:45 AM PST by SolutionsOnly
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To: SolutionsOnly

I love me some Spongebob..


2 posted on 11/29/2004 5:02:55 AM PST by skaterboy (Cant wait for tomorrow cause I get better looking everyday)
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To: SolutionsOnly
Isn't it strange that someone would make a 155 million dollar movie and use it to indoctrinate? Why? I thought they were in the business of making money. It really amazes me, are they really that out of touch? I would love to see a movie about Alexander that doesn't try to portray the guy as a depressed, bisexual who's mother rules his life. Guys like that do not conquer the world.

The fact that Stone thinks his target audience for that movie, probably males 20 to 50 would go see it the way he made it. You would think he would have more sense that that.

ITS ABOUT MAKING MONEY YOU IDIOTS!

3 posted on 11/29/2004 5:09:45 AM PST by normy (Don't hit at all if it is honorably possible to avoid hitting; but never hit soft.)
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To: skaterboy

I love SpongeBob. Gary the snail is the smartest one in the bunch. *meow*.


4 posted on 11/29/2004 5:15:16 AM PST by toomanygrasshoppers
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To: SolutionsOnly
"National Treasure" is good clean fun.

No sex, no foul language, no PC nonsense, interesting plot, lots of action and suspense.

Hollywood should take notice, but it won't.

5 posted on 11/29/2004 5:15:23 AM PST by Popman
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To: SolutionsOnly

Alexander truly was a fascinating character.

I hope someone makes a good movie about him, someday.

Dan
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6 posted on 11/29/2004 5:20:45 AM PST by BibChr ("...behold, they have rejected the word of the LORD, so what wisdom is in them?" [Jer. 8:9])
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To: normy
The fact that Stone thinks his target audience for that movie, probably males 20 to 50 would go see it the way he made it. You would think he would have more sense that that.

You forgot, Hollywood believes that most people believe like they do, i.e. "gay is good". Because many of the people they work with on a daily basis are homosexual, their movies' subtle undertones of pro homosexual panderings are seen as normal in their world. The history cannot be re-written, only the future can be changed., and that is precisely the goal. Change the future to their likenesses. The people of Jesusland are not buying it........

7 posted on 11/29/2004 5:21:30 AM PST by Red Badger (If the Red States are JESUSLAND, then the Blue States are SATANLAND......)
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To: normy

Regarding the Alexander movie, For some it's more much about advancing an agenda than anything else. I think they operate wearing blinders.

Too bad they poisoned the subject of Alexander the Great. It could have been a phenomenal movie had it been done by someone like Mel Gibson. Fortunately, the History Channel just recently did a good documentary on Alexnder the Great. It's worth seeing.


8 posted on 11/29/2004 5:21:55 AM PST by SolutionsOnly
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To: SolutionsOnly

I guess a lot of folks aren't interested in seeing a gay guy conquer the world. Who woulda' guessed? /s


9 posted on 11/29/2004 5:23:12 AM PST by elli1
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To: SolutionsOnly

Just watched bootleg version of Incredibles in a bar here, good quality, funny film, have to pick up the DVD for a few bucks...


10 posted on 11/29/2004 5:24:12 AM PST by Central Scrutiniser (Laugh While You Can, Monkey-Boy!!!!)
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To: BibChr

Daniel, chapter 8


"1": In the third year of the reign of king Belshazzar a vision appeared unto me, even unto me Daniel, after that which appeared unto me at the first.

"2": And I saw in a vision; and it came to pass, when I saw, that I was at Shushan in the palace, which is in the province of Elam; and I saw in a vision, and I was by the river of Ulai.

"3": Then I lifted up mine eyes, and saw, and, behold, there stood before the river a ram which had two horns: and the two horns were high; but one was higher than the other, and the higher came up last.

"4": I saw the ram pushing westward, and northward, and southward; so that no beasts might stand before him, neither was there any that could deliver out of his hand; but he did according to his will, and became great.

"5": And as I was considering, behold, an he goat came from the west on the face of the whole earth, and touched not the ground: and the goat had a notable horn between his eyes.

"6": And he came to the ram that had two horns, which I had there seen standing before the river, and ran unto him in the fury of his power.

"7": And I saw him come close unto the ram, and he was moved with choler against him, and smote the ram, and brake his two horns: and there was no power in the ram to stand before him, but he cast him down to the ground, and stamped upon him: and there was none that could deliver the ram out of his hand.

"8": Therefore the he goat waxed very great: and when he was strong, the great horn was broken; and for it came up four notable ones toward the four winds of heaven.

"9": And out of one of them came forth a little horn, which waxed exceeding great, toward the south, and toward the east, and toward the pleasant land.

"10": And it waxed great, even to the host of heaven; and it cast down some of the host and of the stars to the ground, and stamped upon them.

"11": Yea, he magnified himself even to the prince of the host, and by him the daily sacrifice was taken away, and the place of his sanctuary was cast down.

"12": And an host was given him against the daily sacrifice by reason of transgression, and it cast down the truth to the ground; and it practised, and prospered.

"13": Then I heard one saint speaking, and another saint said unto that certain saint which spake, How long shall be the vision concerning the daily sacrifice, and the transgression of desolation, to give both the sanctuary and the host to be trodden under foot?

"14": And he said unto me, Unto two thousand and three hundred days; then shall the sanctuary be cleansed.

"15": And it came to pass, when I, even I Daniel, had seen the vision, and sought for the meaning, then, behold, there stood before me as the appearance of a man.

"16": And I heard a man's voice between the banks of Ulai, which called, and said, Gabriel, make this man to understand the vision.

"17": So he came near where I stood: and when he came, I was afraid, and fell upon my face: but he said unto me, Understand, O son of man: for at the time of the end shall be the vision.

"18": Now as he was speaking with me, I was in a deep sleep on my face toward the ground: but he touched me, and set me upright.

"19": And he said, Behold, I will make thee know what shall be in the last end of the indignation: for at the time appointed the end shall be.

"20": The ram which thou sawest having two horns are the kings of Media and Persia.

"21": And the rough goat is the king of Grecia: and the great horn that is between his eyes is the first king.

"22": Now that being broken, whereas four stood up for it, four kingdoms shall stand up out of the nation, but not in his power.

"23": And in the latter time of their kingdom, when the transgressors are come to the full, a king of fierce countenance, and understanding dark sentences, shall stand up.

"24": And his power shall be mighty, but not by his own power: and he shall destroy wonderfully, and shall prosper, and practise, and shall destroy the mighty and the holy people.

"25": And through his policy also he shall cause craft to prosper in his hand; and he shall magnify himself in his heart, and by peace shall destroy many: he shall also stand up against the Prince of princes; but he shall be broken without hand.

"26": And the vision of the evening and the morning which was told is true: wherefore shut thou up the vision; for it shall be for many days.

"27": And I Daniel fainted, and was sick certain days; afterward I rose up, and did the king's business; and I was astonished at the vision, but none understood it.


11 posted on 11/29/2004 5:24:34 AM PST by Red Badger (If the Red States are JESUSLAND, then the Blue States are SATANLAND......)
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To: normy
It really amazes me, are they really that out of touch

No,no,no,no, we are out of touch.

They create worlds and put it on film.

We step up, plunk down our money , walk in and become mesmerized.

Fantasy, reality are just in the mind of the viewer.

Don't you realize, that without Hollywood conjuring up shit like this entertainment our lives would be almost completely meaningless. < / sarcasm >

12 posted on 11/29/2004 5:28:45 AM PST by Popman
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To: SolutionsOnly; Red Badger
Thats an awful lot of money to lose to advance an agenda. These guys love to defame the dead who cannot defend themselves. I wonder why a man cannot have another man for a friend without him being gay?

I did see the History Channel's show but certain historians on that hinted the guy was gay. That would be like the Greeks doing a movie, or their historians trying to convince the world Washington was gay because he loved Hamilton.

13 posted on 11/29/2004 5:30:27 AM PST by normy (Don't hit at all if it is honorably possible to avoid hitting; but never hit soft.)
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To: Red Badger
May I suggest you point out the reason for your post about Daniel. I think most people will not understand why you posted it.

A movie about the life of Daniel would be fantastic, if done right.

14 posted on 11/29/2004 5:33:52 AM PST by Popman
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Don't you realize, that without Hollywood conjuring up shit like this entertainment our lives would be almost completely meaningless. < / sarcasm >

Now that is funny!LOL

15 posted on 11/29/2004 5:34:30 AM PST by normy (Don't hit at all if it is honorably possible to avoid hitting; but never hit soft.)
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To: Popman

I agree it was a very good story . Even the 6 year old enjoyed it.


16 posted on 11/29/2004 5:34:42 AM PST by linn37 (Have you hugged your Phlebotomist today?)
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To: normy

I wonder why anyone would see an Oliver Stone movie.


17 posted on 11/29/2004 5:36:17 AM PST by JohnCliftn
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To: SolutionsOnly
I saw The Incredibles, National Treasure and Alexander in the last week. Getting stuck at the in-laws, I was using any excuse to get out of the house.

The Incredibles was very good, solid family entertainment. I took my 5 year old and he enjoyed it as did I. I do not think Pixar has missed with a film yet.

I wasn't expecting much from National Treasure but was pleasantly surprised. It was fun mindless entertainment and was not morally degrading in any way.

Alexander was just gosh awful. I can't begin to tell how bad this movie was. It wasn't just the gay thing - since it is a pretty well documented historical fact I would expect them to at least make reference to his homosexuality. However, they did not just make reference to it - they made it the central theme of the movie - and it was disgusting. But that isn't the only reason this movie is terrible. The acting was almost universally bad. Angelina Jolie did a particularly bad job of acting in this movie. There was only one real action scene in the movie. This was actually done fairly well - but it was the only real action scene in the whole movie. A 3 hour movie about Alexander and they spend all their time talking instead of showing action/adventure scenes - arrrrrggghhh!
18 posted on 11/29/2004 5:36:45 AM PST by vabeachrepub
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True. When I first saw the commercial for Alexander I thought "great!" but at the end of it it said "directed by Oliver Stone" and I knew it would suck.
19 posted on 11/29/2004 5:38:42 AM PST by normy (Don't hit at all if it is honorably possible to avoid hitting; but never hit soft.)
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To: Popman
I think most people will not understand why you posted it.

The people of Jesusland will. The exiles of Jesusland in Blue states will. The Jewish readers will. Most FReepers, I believe, will. Anyone left, won't.....

20 posted on 11/29/2004 5:42:54 AM PST by Red Badger (If the Red States are JESUSLAND, then the Blue States are SATANLAND......)
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