Skip to comments.Iran not afraid of US pressure, supreme leader says ["will never stop its nuclear programme"]
Posted on 11/29/2004 9:59:25 AM PST by OXENinFLA
Iran's supreme leader Ayatollah Ali Khamenei said Monday his country would press on with its nuclear programme and was not afraid of pressure from the United States.
"The people and the officials are not scared of the political threats made by the powers in the service of oppression," Khamenei was quoted as saying by state television during a meeting with visiting Venezuelan President Hugo Chavez.
"Iran will never stop its nuclear programme, that is our red line," he said in comments that coincided with Iran's agreement to suspend, but not halt, its controversial work on the nuclear fuel cycle.
Khamenei, who has the final say on all matters of state, said the suspension agreement with Britain, France and Germany -- designed to prevent the International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA) from referring Iran to the UN Security Council -- "were carried out while respecting this red line".
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And there's still a debate on what Iran wants and will continue to do?
For God's sakes, let's just bomb this stupid country and get it done. We all know that's where it's headed. Why wait? Muslims are simply incapable of co-existing peacefully. They have to be bombed into submission.
Next stop, Iran.
Just remember this quote the next time you hear a report from the MSM that Iran has agreed to stop it's nuke programs...
Iran's supreme leader Ayatollah Ali Khamenei, seen here 14 November 2004, said his country would press on with its nuclear program and was not afraid of pressure from the United States(AFP/File)
I don't understand why the international community will keep buying this bile pouring from Iran. It's the 1930's all over again!!
Field test the MOABs. Lets start with dropping 100. Then use the diamond tipped earth penetrators.
Any other suggestions? Would like to have it done prior to Christmas so that I can concentrate on my family over the holiday.
"Iran will never stop its nuclear programme, that is our red line,"
YOU CROSS THIS RED LINE YOU DIE!!!
You Cross This Red Line You Die!!
You cross this red line, you die!
Uh, you knock on my door, I'm not coming out.
Then perhaps we should stop it for them.
This has been noted in Israel. This is not the first threat of this sort from Iran.
Israel destroyed Saddams Nuclear facility in the 80's and don't be suprised to see them act preemptively to protect their population, again.
Iran has stated they would be happy to exchange Nuclear blasts with Israel. Because, as they see it, the Arab World can survive it, Israel can't.
Will Israel ever knowingly allowing that possibilty to occur?
...just my 2 cents is all
They'd better stock up on their potassium cloride.
Best possible scenario..the threat of a pre-emptive strike by Israel..coupled with a loud and clear statement buy Israel that IF a nuke is ever detonated in Israel..then Israel will respond against Iranian cities..might be enough to move the Iranians to overthrow the very unpopular mullahs..
Bomb them and if their programs are indeed under residential areas, issue a warning and then bomb and hold Iran responsible for the casualties. Let them talk all they want. This isn't John Kerry they're going to deal with. Force is all those beasts answer to.
only an ignorant fool would blame a entire religion for stupidity of a few within that religion. To bomb Iran would be the worst thing for America. You would be doing what the terrorist wanted. There would be a brand new wave of anti-American sentiment within the Muslim population around the world. America would have it's biggest fear recognized (a united Muslim population). Something that even America with all of it's military and economic might could not cope with.
Oh, boy. The "They will hate us" argument... again.
Read my tagline, Kreskin.
Like the Iranians have any intent to change their course on WMD.
The Europeans who still think they're not in a war against the radical Islamic fundamentalist:
Munich Oktoberfest bombing
Madrid train bombing
Van Gogh assassination
Just in the recent history will all just be overlooked. The Germans are led by Clinton, I mean Schroeder. They will make BIG MEDIA EVENTS OF THEIR APPEASEMENT EFFORTS, to show how they did something and made progress.
They will not talk about:
2 planes suicide crashed
1 car bomb
300+ children dead in Beslan
In just Russia in just a 6 month period. There IS NO GLOBAL WAR on terror and there is NO threat from the Islamic fundamentalist nor are there connections. These are all made up ideas in George Bushes mind. The hegemony and imperialistic Americans are looking for an excuse to gain access to oil. No mention will be made of:
MEK compounds in Iraq
Al Zarkari who lived in Iraq before the war
The master mind of the Achille Laura hijacking living freely in Baghdad under Saddam.
The IIS plot to assassinate George H. Bush in 1993 (State sponsored assassination plot).
The politics of Chamberlain are alive and kicking in Europe. If we close our eyes and just wait the problem will go away. People want to see something done about this, so the Europeans wine and dine those who would much like to see them bleed to death right at their feet. But all that matters is that the Iranians show some cooperation and the Europeans who are to weak to act or call a spade a spade will quickly seize the moment and demonstrate that something was accomplished. Its a win-win situation for a short time. The Europeans can tell their people they did something without actually drawing the conclusion which should be drawn, since theyre impotent. The Iranians know that as long as they throw the Europeans a bone they will never back any action of the US against them. The Europeans themselves will surly do nothing. All awhile the Iranians keep building a bomb. Because every kid knows this is nothing but media eyewash what the Iranians are feeding the audience. The big though European politician will also not mention Hamas which was created and is still sponsored by Iran. No, again this would force the hand into the politically incorrect action for the contemporary savvy European politician.
How hard is it for Iran to dismantle their program? How hard is it to stop the construction? How long has this game been going on?
An Arab/Persian sees negotiations as a sign of weakness. Sadr/Saddam only negotiates to buy time, escape or do other things. Never is it sincere. The Palestinians are the same. The Europeans dont care and just want to hear a big lie, even if at the highest levels they know dam well its a lie, it serves their political end and wins elections.
Iran has no intent to stop, but they know the Europeans. They know that their vote matters.
I hope you are right, Ken.
Can Israel effectively "threaten" Iran without actually detonating a device within Iran? Perhaps by naming targets, this would inspire the Iranian populus, especially in the forementioned areas, to act to overthrow the Mullahs and stop the nuclear program.
"only an ignorant fool would blame a entire religion for stupidity of a few within that religion"
Hello Troll. Only a blissfully stupid moron such as yourself actually believes the "it's only a few" storyline. The Muslims extremists has done a number on your ignorant head, that's for sure.
The strength of the opposition is really the key issue..DRZin's daily Iranian thread suggests it is a lot stronger..One scenario is that you have revolts breaking out around the country..an opposition govt is annouced..the mullahs attempt to put it down..and then the new leaders appeal to the US for military intervention.. I think the whole Iranian question is on a very tight timetable that no one eally understands. I believe that there are only TWO absolutes at work here. ONE is that the mullahs are dteremi9ned to get a nuclear weapon, and TWO. Israel will under no circumstances allow that to happen..regardless of what the rest of the world, including the US says, or does..
Europe is willing to tolerate a nuclear Iran, because with the exception of Russia, they have very little oil and they want Iran's.
Israel's problem, of sorts, in an "overt" threat is that it has never admitted to possessing nukes. However, I don't think the problem of Iran's disperesed facilities is as hard as it sounds. You don't have to take them all out..just a few..even the sources of power..the electrical plants..then..you try and foment, aid, abet.. a revolution from within..
I believe that you are correct in both of your assumptions. I can remember when I was in Esfahan (during the revolution of the Shah), spontaneous demonstrations would occur. The Shah's Army would scatter them, similar to what has happened a few weeks ago with the student demonstrations. In my belief, the students and other supporters are not strong enough at this time to overthrow the Mullahs or the Revolutionary Guards. Only time will tell which way the situation will go.
RE: 14-year-old flogged to death
Thanks for the post. These are just the kind of Islamothugs that the opposition would face.
This guy's house should be first on the target list.
want to start a little pool on how long the newbie remains?
It's also time for Allah to die.
Charles Krauthammer said a good six weeks ago that Iran was a problem that wouldn't wait until January. He was right, and the clock is ticking.
Neo-Player Since Nov 29, 2004
Listen Troll enough of your liberal garbage argument. If the Iranina people are righteous than they will understand our need to defend ourselves from Radical Mullahs with Nukes. The safety of the American People comes first.
This is the same argument you fools gave with the Iraq War!
I agree. It's the regime that are the extremists, not the people.
Bombing Iran would probably turn the Pro-American Iranians against us.
I think we're going to run this risk with a blockade of the Gulf, too. The average Iranian will feel the hardship, not the regime.
We need to finance and support regime change. The nukes aren't the problem, the people in charge are.
No, they don't seem strong enough now. They need help.
Why were you in Isfahan? Working?
I seem to recall a certain Head of a North African nation claiming that any ships entering the Gulf of Sidra would be crossing the 'Line of Death'. It would be wise to learn from history, Mr Ayatollah.
How fast could arrangements for financing and supports be put in place? Time is not on the Iranians side, as the mullahs seem to be in a big hurry.
"How fast could arrangements for financing and supports be put in place?"
I don't know. I know time is running out. And it seems the two options discussed most are bombing and financial in the form of sanctions or an embargo. I don't know why we don't hear more about toppling this regime.
Nukes don't kill, people do. Get rid of this regime, and we won't have to worry about the nukes.
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Iran does not need nuclear power they have an abundence of oil.
"You Will Be."
The 'Rods Arrive with "Meteoric Force,"--Punching holes Deep enough to Annihilate ANY "Buried Facility."
There is NO Defense.
America has Restrained Itself; PERHAPS these "Mullahs" might "Re-Assess" their agressive Posture; They are NOT going to be allowed to Threaten their Neighbors with Nuclear Weapons.
WE "Have the High Ground," & WHEN the Psychotic Mullah's elect to "Go Nuclear," we can (&, I Suspect, Will) END their twisted "foray" into "21st Century Science" in a SPECTACULAR FASHION.
The Iranian Mullah's are playing by Thirteenth Century Rules with 21st Century Weapons. That "Dissonance" WILL NOT be "Allowed" to Survive!!