Anglican Leader Urges Those Who Condemn Gays to Repent

CBN News ^ | 11-30-04 | CBN

[TOUGH STOUGH]

You were one step ahead of me I see.

Absolutely agree with every word of your post!

[sarasmom]

A "Church" is about the last place I belong, since I believe in God.
I am not a cultist type .

[Texas_Jarhead]

so sad

[reaganaut]

I think that your post explains everything perfectly. I've never known a druid to condemn ANYTHING.

[inkling]

Being in church doesn't save. Nor does redefining sin. Only God saves. What is a church where God's instructions for salvation cannot be heard?

We agree completely.

[Deb]

Cake or death?

[little jeremiah]

Homosexual Agenda Ping.

Yup, it's Looking Glass time. What's up is now called down, black is officially called white, daytime will now be called night, and sunset is now officially called morning.

I'm going to go to the library tomorrow and get "1984" and "Brave New World". I need to find out what's going to happen.

Actually, there's plenty of reason for cheer. The more the fanatic secularists, avowed atheists, rabid hedonism promoters, and their ilk reveal themselves, the easier it will be for those who haven't given themselves to the Dark Side to choose the Side of Light.

If anyone wants on/off this pinglist, ping me and ItsOurTimeNow.

[Bluegrass Conservative]

In my mind, yes there are many sins that are worse than others. However, we do not think like God and that is not what he teaches.

I believe that when we are judged, each sin against God will be equal (with the exception of the sin of not accepting Jesus and repenting of our sins).

I am definitely not saying that we should ignore the sin of homosexuality. Rather, we should teach against it along with teaching against adultery, murder, thievery, etc.

[Slyfox]

Archbishop of Canterbury Rowan Williams has sent a letter to Anglican leaders worldwide calling on those who've condemned gays to repent. He warns against any words "that could make it easier for someone to attack or abuse a homosexual person."

Hmmmm....I wonder what he'd say about a gay person condemning another gay person just cuz they were a conservative?

[Dont Mention the War]

Any pronouncements by the Archbishop of Canterbury on matters of religion should be taken about as seriously as one would take a pronouncement by a Luddite on which operating system to install.

[RaceBannon]

Communion and Baptism are two Biblical ceremonies we are commanded to partake in if you are a believer.

[Dont Mention the War]

Any pronouncements by the Archbishop of Canterbury on matters of religion should be taken about as seriously as one would take a pronouncement by a Luddite on which operating system to install.

[wardaddy]

Adieu Apostate Arsewipes.

[Moose Dung]

Exactly correct.

However, Williams, Griswold and the Canadians want to re-write sexual ethics to put all forms of sexual practice into an equal context. Their vision is a society in which there is no homo-, hetro-, serial-, group-, trans-, sex. There is only sex and its all good.

Check out http://www.virtueonline.org for plenty Frank and Rowan's rantings about God "the Force" and other complete sewage-soaked preversions of Christianity.

The Episcopal Church in the USA (ECUSA) is already in rapid decline. The only thing keeping the institution alive are the piles of dead men's money that have been accumulated over the past 250 years (including some from George Washinton, himself).

It's sick. And its very sad. It's the lunatic liberal left completely run amok. Unfortunately in church we can't just vote 'em out.

The good news, however, is that less than 20% of the Anglican church is in the US/Canada/UK.

The heart of the church has moved to the Global South, primarily Africa. The true heart of the church is now in Nigeria, Uganda, Rawanda, Kenya, Zimbabwe, etc. With the exception of South Africa (under Archbishop Desmond Tutu, yech!) sub-saharan Africa is one big Red State.

The Episcopal Church in the US is currently imploding. Sometime in the spring the real schizm will come and Willy & Grizzy will be stuck with empty miters and no chicken dinners.

dung.

[TChris]

Queers do not belong in church!

Church is exactly where sinners belong!

[lafroste]

God welcomes all of us, regardless if we are drunks, liars, adulterers (with opposite or same sex), thieves, or whatever other sin we fall into. He asks us to "go and sin no more," but if He didn't accept sinners, what would be the point?

I wholeheartedly agree. He gives us the strength to overcome our sin. I was a basketcase and He lifted me up. Do I still sin? Yes. Do I try not to too? Usually. DO I seek His presence? All the time. It works and His yoke is light.

[derheimwill]

Unfortunately in church we can't just vote 'em out Of course we can!

[SolutionsOnly]

Wasn't the Anglican Church formed by King Henry VIII because he wanted a divorce that the Catholic Church wouldn't grant? So he started an new church with new rules. And now we're talking about gay Bishops.

hmmm. this all seems to fit.

[inkling]

My sister attends a liberal Episcopal church. My niece's baptism was one of the most appalling things I've ever seen at a church. The pastor repeatedly apologized for his faith in case it seemed intolerant. He then essentially said that baptism was a meaningless ritual, and called all beliefs (and non-belief) equal. My dad and I -- the only committed Christians in the room -- just sat there with ours jaws hung open. Very sad.

[Nowhere Man]

Where is the "hold muh beer" alert? B-)

Seriously, I see the point of leaving homosexuals alone as long as they keep their lives private, follow the laws like anyone else and not force their agenda on society at large though activist judges. If the Arch-Bishop stuck to that, I see his point. However, in the Bible, it condemns homosexuality as a lifestyle and it is not natural at all. If the church, any church, the way I understand it, it has to adhere to Biblical principles in order to be a Christian church. I don't see that and I think the Arch-Bishop here is "falling down on the job." I do believe in condemning the sin but love the sinner and I do hope homosexuals see the errors of their lifestyle and change. Failing that, well, they need to be left alone as long as the three condtions are met in the beginning of my paragraph, but they will have to answer and justify themselves in front of God as we all do and let Him judge.

I'm kind of encouraged to see the churches in Latin America, Africa, and South America to be taking a lead on it. I know myself, I'm Lutheran and I'm commenting on the Anglican Church, but as we all know, we don't live in a vacuum and what affects one can affect many. My church is the member of the ELCA and I wonder if I might have to face a decision depending what the ELCA does in this repect.