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To: presidio9

At the risk of being a spoil sport, it seems to me that it would be pretty easy to do a solo, around the world, unrefueled flight by taking a 747, stripping out all the seats and adding additional fuel tanks in the cargo hold and the passenger compartment.

You'd probably have to overload it a bit and the takeoff would be a little hairy, but that also seems to be the case with Rutan's design.


17 posted on 11/30/2004 11:50:09 AM PST by RatSlayer
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To: RatSlayer
At the risk of being a spoil sport, it seems to me that it would be pretty easy to do a solo, around the world, unrefueled flight by taking a 747, stripping out all the seats and adding additional fuel tanks in the cargo hold and the passenger compartment. You'd probably have to overload it a bit and the takeoff would be a little hairy, but that also seems to be the case with Rutan's design.

Check the numbers. It will either never leave the ground or it will not make it around the earth.

26 posted on 11/30/2004 12:34:18 PM PST by WildTurkey
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To: RatSlayer

Not enough lift in the wings of a 747. Look at the wings on that pic and consider that it is all composite.....a lot lighter than aluminum.


28 posted on 11/30/2004 12:52:40 PM PST by El Gran Salseron (My wife just won the "Inmate of the Month" Award! :-))
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To: RatSlayer
max passenger number ~ 452
200 lbs/passenger * 452 passengers = 90400 lbs

current Max range = 6100 miles
Earth circumference = 24901 miles

you would need fuel in fuselage for 18801 extra miles or about 3 times current Max range

and therefore 3 times current main tank capacity in the fuselage
(not considering increased GW effects on range which is stupid but ok to make this silly point)

fuel for current max range = 48445gals
6.7 lbs/gal * 48445 gals = 324581 lbs (you probably see what's coming)

weight of fuel needed in fuselage = (324581*3)lbs = 973774 lbs

This is an order of MAGNITUDE greater in weight than the current max passenger weight. The whole plane weighs less than 800,000!!!!

Thank you for playing.

38 posted on 11/30/2004 1:45:50 PM PST by avg_freeper (Gunga galunga. Gunga, gunga galunga)
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To: RatSlayer
At the risk of being a spoil sport, it seems to me that it would be pretty easy to do a solo, around the world, unrefueled flight by taking a 747, stripping out all the seats and adding additional fuel tanks in the cargo hold and the passenger compartment.

I will venture to guess that Rutan's designing/building/test flying of this plane costs magnitudes less money than buying a 747 and then installing tanks and modifying it. Sure, a billionaire is funding the flight but there's no fun in using a 747.

Sorry for the late response...I've been offline for a week and just saw this thread.

53 posted on 12/06/2004 10:09:46 AM PST by hattend (Where'd my tagline go?)
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