[MHGinTN]

Ed, could it be that we have a major disconnect (a sort of societal schizophrenia) with the reason for support of abortion?... Do the majority of Americans who believe abortion should not be outlawed entirely actually hold that belief because of the fundamental notion of right to self defense (right to protect ones LIFE), while those who believe a woman should have some special right to hire a serial killer to end her pregnancy if she wishes believe that based on the notion that the unborn are not human beings thus the woman has a right to liberty/pursuit of happiness that should not be in any way infringed?

Personally, I believe that societal schizophrenia is the case. Would you like to have an open debate on this, this notion of self defense?

[Lexinom]

Interesting thoughts, MHG. We do appear to be in a schizophrenic state as a society in that the right to abortion apparently trumps the mounting evidence of the humanity of the fetus. We're wagging the dog big time.

On logical grounds, the pro-life position is even stronger: The unborn baby has DNA distinct from its mother; this combined with the very fact he grows daily testifies to his aliveness; viewed in light of these two facts, the right to abortion means the right to murder a distinct human being. Lastly, all of this begs the question: why should just women have this right? On what grounds? Privacy? Does that mean I have the right to murder my wife in the privacy of our bedroom and not be prescuted for murder?

I have never understood the logical argument of the pro-choice side. The most they can muster is A) emotion (why should she be forced to care for a baby she does not want? What about her career, her education?), and B) social pragmatics (overcrowding of cities, increase of crime, etc.). Neither of these are a silver bullet and both are easily dispatched.

[Ed Current]

An enormous denial of the humanity of an enormous class of human beings?

1. Their humanity can be denied and their right to life denied by silence.
2. Their humanity can be affirmed and their right to life denied by unlawful edicts.

Antonin Scalia and His Critics: The Church, the Courts, and the Death Penalty

• What the "pro-choice" American does not believe is that a human fetus is as fully a human life as Uncle Charlie.

Does the pro-choice person really believe as Scalia claims, or is that a pretense for murder?

In the 1960s, even Planned Parenthood preferred contraception (conception prevention) to abortion, because abortion was clearly viewed as ethically wrong.

Schizophrenia, in this case, is the triumph of emotion over reason.

[TOUGH STOUGH]

"I believe that societal schizophrenia is the case."

With all due respect, society has been shizophrenic about abortion at least since 1973. What else is new?