Posted on 12/01/2004 6:32:00 AM PST by NYer
DOHA, Qatar, November 30, 2004 (LifeSiteNews.com) - One of the Vatican's highest-ranking prelates said at a conference today, "An ideology hostile to the family is spreading" in governments around the world.
Alfonso Cardinal Lopez Trujillo, president of the Pontifical Council for the Family, spoke at the International Conference on the Family organized in Doha, the capital of Qatar by the World Congress of Families. The Cardinal's address was called, "The Complementarity of Men and Women - Building on the Strengths of Mothers and Fathers."
In many countries the push for same-sex "marriage" has caused confusion among Catholics who are often told that matters of justice and human rights are at stake. Even bishops have made ambiguous statements that can be seen to be supportive of civil recognition of homosexual relationships. Trujillo on the other hand clearly emphasized the necessity of opposing any incursions against marriage in civil law. "Recognition of 'de facto' unions," he said, "which are a legal fiction, proposing same-sex unions as an alternative to marriage, and inventing new, unacceptable notions of marriage to the point of accepting the adoption of children, are grave signs of dehumanization."
The Vatican has watched anxiously as the European Union as well as governments overseas have worked to undermine the family as the foundation of civil society - first by legalizing civil divorce, contraception and abortion, and then ultimately enacting laws making homosexual partnerships equal to marriage.
Cardinal Trujillo said that the family is founded upon marriage, which is not a product of European cultural bias, but rather a standard for all human societies. He added, "One truth that is present in a profound way in all cultures and religions is that of the family based on marriage, the only worthy and appropriate place for conjugal love." The fruit of marriage, the "complete, reciprocal self-giving" says the Cardinal, is the child which he called "God's most precious gift."
Cardinal Trujillo denounced the Marxist-feminist critique of the family which attempts to portray it as a kind of economic slavery. He said, "In the past decade, the complementarity between a man and a woman and the overcoming of any opposition between the sexes have strangely been negated. The abuses deriving from a certain kind of 'male chauvinist' domination ...are not valid arguments for an exacerbated feminism that considers marriage and the family a place of slavery, and fatherhood and motherhood an unbearable burden that turns into fear."
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Homosexual rights activists always claim they want "equal" rights. When in fact they are asking for extra rights. Gay marriage is not an equal right, its an extra right. Extra rights leads to a totally permissive, degraded sick society.
I have noticed that the online dictionary's have decided to include "gay marriage" under the term "marriage."
Does anyone have a dictionary around their house? I do not think that the def. included "gay marriage."
I believe this is something new that has just been added!
I have noticed that the online dictionary's have decided to include "gay marriage" under the term "marriage."
Does anyone have a dictionary around their house? I do not think that the def. included "gay marriage."
I believe this is something new that has just been added!
Sodomy is an abomination not worthy of human beings and pretending that sodomy can be a basis for holy matrimony is indeed a dehumanization.
Ummm ... What human rights are at stake???
The gays can do whatever they want and have what ever sex they choose in the privacy of their homes
No one can stop them .. but I'm also not going to give them my blessings ..
I recall a radio host talking about how one day he checked some online dictionary and it had the basic definition of marrige (man and woman) and then the next day they changed it.
I don't have any proof of this , but I do remeber it being brought up.
It's newspeak! (I guess, I haven't read orwell since high school)
I would argue that one human right that is at stake is the spread of more STDs. It is a fact that most gays have multiple partners. And STDs such as AIDS are still mostly spread through the homosexual community.
Now, before you say that heteros are also responsible for the spread of STDs, I will say you are correct. And I do not support any sex that is outside of marriage.
Also, when these folks gets AIDS, tax payers then have to support them. Once again, that violates my rights--my right to keep more of my money!
But, before the money argument, I have a big problem with this theory that gays do not spread STDs anymore than anyone else--that is absolutely false.
Thanks, I remember looking it up a while back and it did not include gay marriage--I know that.
Then today, when this story popped up, I looked it up again--and there it was.
Have you ever talked with gays? ... They always compare it to the civil rights of the 60's
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Ok, sorry about that. I misread what you were saying.
Yeah, I agree, what humans rights are being violated!
Good question, but don't expect an answer. I have asked this to several gays and to a group of hetersexuals who are pro gay-marriage. And guess what, I have never gotten a real answer.
one conversation went like this...
Gay: Two loving people should be able to marry no matter if it is two men.
Will: What about people that want to marry more than one person? If we allow gays to marry each other, then we will have to allow people to marry 7 wives.
Gay: Well that is different, marriage is between two adults.
Will: No, it is between two adult human beings that are of the opposite sex. But since you say it is between two adults, what about a man who wants to marry his horse--an adult horse?
Gay: Well, we can't allow that, but gays don't hurt anything.
Will: Pologamy, beastality, and homosexual behavior are all harmful to our culture.
Gay: Whatever.
That is why they re-issue dictionaries on a regular basis - to add new 'words' and 'definitions'. It's just a matter of time until the children's dictionary catches up. If I were you, I would hold onto the kid's dictionary your child is presently using :-)
No joke, but the versions I was looking at were Webster's Online.
This is awful.
That would be "wrong" if they did that. Oh wait, while they are at it, remove "wrong" because right and wrong are just things that a bunch of old men in the Bible made up.
The part about the bible actually came out of the mouth of a liberal I know.
Cardinal Trujillo is a great man, he was the subject of a vicious attack by the B.B.C. when he questioned the efficacy of condom use to counter the spread of AIDS. All of this done under the pretence of 'journalistic integrity', yet he was still willing to be interviewed, and spoke the truth clearly and directly.
Yea .. but its not different for them .. right??
No one is stopping them from living together .. no one is going into their bedrooms .. no one is stopping them from buying house together .. no one is stopping them from leaving their things to their partners in their Wills and at hospitals, they ask you to sign a power of attorney in case someone can't make decissions for themself and they can name whoever they want.
They went the Gay Marriage route instead of the Civl Union route because they want everyone's blessings
Why do you think they always attack churches?
If they can't get what they want .. they will try and destroy it
Exactly, great point.
They always compare it to the civil rights of the 60's
Indeed they do. However they are wrong:
The assertion that homosexuals are a true minority group is false. Minority status has been determined by the U.S. Supreme Court Based on three criteria:
1. Economic Deprivation -- NO! Those engaged in the homosexual lifestyle are among the most advantaged people in the U.S. On average, they have a higher per capita income than heterosexuals, and higher household incomes.
(W.S. Journal, 2/10/89; N.Y. Times, 8/22/90).2. Political Powerlessness -- NO! Homosexuals demonstrate great influential political power far beyond their actual numbers. The Human Rights Campaign Fund has annually donated millions of dollars to candidates, more than most other non-corporate PACs (The Economist, 4/24/93). Media news and entertainment coverage is overwhelmingly favorable. (Turn your TV on!)
3. Immutable Characteristics -- NO! Minority groups share unchangeable, benign, non-behavioral traits such as race, ethnicity, disability or national origin. Homosexuals are the only group to claim minority status based on behavior!
From the Author's Foreword:
"... First, you may be surprised that "gay rights" is not described herein as a "moral issue." Second, you won't find homosexual behavior as a primary civil rights issue factor in this paper. Third, you may be surprised to learn that, as "gay rights" activists now define their position, "gayness" and protection of "gay rights" doesn't involve behavioral issues at all. Let me explain further...
Most people, both gay and "straight," who are concerned with the "gay rights" issue believe the intent of "gay rights" to involve the legal protection of homosexuals and their behavior, so as to (1) prevent homosexuals from suffering "discrimination" and (2) enable any "gay" person to "claim discrimination" under civil rights laws.
However, this understanding is now incorrect -- because gay activists and "gay rights" supporters have, in fact, redefined the issue. Here is a current operative definition of "gay rights" as gay activists and their attorneys themselves now define the concept: "Gay rights" involves the acquisition by all self-allegedly gay, lesbian and bisexual people of a special, "protected" status under civil rights law equal to that enjoyed by recognized "minority" groups, BASED SOLELY ON HOW ANYONE CLAIMING TO BE GAY, LESBIAN OR BISEXUAL MERELY SAYS HE OR SHE DESIRES TO ENGAGE IN SEX.
Notice that "gay rights," as avowed gay activists and their supporters now define them, are not awarded based on how people have sex, nor on how they want to have sex, but solely on how they say they want to have sex. This distinction's full significance will become clearer as you read on..."
Extra rights would include but are not limited to: HIV medication, hepatitis treatment, smoking-related health problems, depression, etc. I don't see too many other groups receive such extra rights as some are willing to grant these people who choose this lifestyle. I can't think of too many choices that give you extra rights /sarcasm off
" Cardinal Trujillo said that the family is founded upon marriage, which is not a product of European cultural bias, but rather a standard for all human societies"
Thank you Cardinal Trujillo. The fact is marriage is not a religious institution but a fundamental human civil institution. It is ordered to the perpetuation of society. We owe it to society as a matter of justice to protect it. Homosexual behavior is destructive. We owe our neighbors both by the demands of justice and the requirements of charity not to stand by and endorse their destruction.
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It's a recent change. I was weekly checking some online dictionaries and one day it was changed to include same-sex. Some folks have written the online dictionaries but they're more interested in some agenda or being PC than how the majority actually use and define the word marriage. I believe the change happened around the summer of 2003.
Thanks for that info.
Do you know if recent print version of the dictionary are the same way?
I am probably going to the book store today so I will check if noboby knows.
Or, as C.S. Lewis put it, the abolition of man.
Shalom.
Then the person who told you that wouldn't have any objection if you gave him a fat lip. Nothing "wrong" with that, right?
Shalom.
While the reality is that marriage is a reflection of the way man and woman were created, marriage has always been a 3 way contract, between a man, a woman, and the society in which they are a part.
Shalom.
ha, good point.
But instead of getting frustrated by crap like that, I just laugh at it and tell him how kooky he sounds.
I will now get down from the soapbox.
The homosexuals also spin the misinformation that ALL opposition to same sex marriage or homosexuals in generals is ONLY based on religion.
Society rewards the institution not the individual.
Society rewards marriage because it maximizes the futur of society. Homosexuals are under teh mistaken notion that an individuals ability to enjoy an orgasm is involved.
You've got some real politcal clout when you can get dictionary publishers to rewrite basic definitions.
Actually, it's not just the homosexuals. Most people since the '60s have viewed marriage as being about legalized or legitimized sex. That's why the free love crowd wanted to do without marriage. They didn't see why sex wasn't legitimate on its own.
Marriage is about uniting the man and woman into one flesh. Dogs can have sex. Dogs can make little dogs. But only people can marry.
Shalom.
I don't know if recent print versions are the same way. Imagine the egg on their face if society continues to reject same-sex marriage. They'll look like the biased bozos that they are.
Ruh roh ...
Looks like reserving the word "marriage" for contracepting heteros whose marriages are based on the same premise as homosexuals (children as OPTION of marriage) may not be enough.
Does Bush realize what "civil unions" means every time he supports marriage as hetero but reserves the right of states to confect "civil unions" and privileges attaching thereto as states see fit?
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