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Bullying link to gay illness
The Scotsman ^ | Wed 1 Dec 2004

Posted on 12/01/2004 10:29:18 AM PST by presidio9

DISCRIMINATION against gay men, lesbians and bisexuals could be responsible for high levels of mental illness and self-harm, research suggested today.

A study found that attacks and bullying could be linked to the widespread mental disorder that homosexuals appear to suffer.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Extended News; Miscellaneous
KEYWORDS: aidskillsfagsdead; bullying; buttsforbrains; chunkymonkies; disorders; homosexualagenda
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1 posted on 12/01/2004 10:29:18 AM PST by presidio9
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To: presidio9

The widespread mental illness that gays and Lesbians suffer from is a disorder known as homosexuality, not anything else. Period. End of story. Next question?


2 posted on 12/01/2004 10:30:18 AM PST by WashingtonSource (Freedom is not free.)
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To: presidio9

And all these years I thought homosexuality was caused by being gay...


3 posted on 12/01/2004 10:30:36 AM PST by RockinRight (Liberals are OK with racism and sexism, as long as it is aimed at a Republican.)
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To: presidio9

Being sexually attracted to someone of the same sex is in and of itself a mental illness.


4 posted on 12/01/2004 10:31:10 AM PST by HEY4QDEMS
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To: presidio9

I see the articles at the Scotsman are short and "sweet."


5 posted on 12/01/2004 10:31:13 AM PST by Mr. Mojo
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To: EdReform; little jeremiah; I still care

ping


6 posted on 12/01/2004 10:31:17 AM PST by presidio9 (Islam is as Islam does)
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To: presidio9

"There they go again..."


7 posted on 12/01/2004 10:31:19 AM PST by MisterRepublican ("I must go. I must be elusive.")
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To: presidio9
LOL!!!

A predilection for sodomy is a mental disorder, you buffoons!

I note with interest that the study takes for granted the notion that these perverts were born perverts and were tormented by peers for being perverts when they were little.

That's a bit of a stretch.

8 posted on 12/01/2004 10:31:35 AM PST by wideawake (God bless our brave soldiers and their Commander in Chief)
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To: presidio9

Homosexuality itself is a mental disorder on the most fundamental level - humans simply aren't designed to work that way. Often enough it is merely one of many symptoms of deeper, underlying problems, quite often stemming from bad relationships with the same-gender parent.


10 posted on 12/01/2004 10:32:30 AM PST by thoughtomator (The Era of Old Media is over! Long live the Pajamasphere!)
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To: presidio9

It's the chicken-egg scenario. The authors have it backwards. It is the mental illness that precipitates their other problems, not vice versa.


11 posted on 12/01/2004 10:32:37 AM PST by pissant
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To: presidio9
Isn't their homosexuality proof enough of their mental illness?
12 posted on 12/01/2004 10:32:48 AM PST by Mulch
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To: presidio9

I do wish there was some information available beyond the first two paragraphs. I don't foresee this triggering much useful discussion otherwise...

Having been bullied as a kid, this has a "well, duh" aspect for me. We all knew people who were suspected of being gay who got beat up or harassed regularly in school, it's like being fat or poor or a crybaby. I suspect other people are going to have a different conclusion about this common sense link.


13 posted on 12/01/2004 10:32:58 AM PST by HostileTerritory
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To: presidio9
What a coincidence:
A study found that facts and ideas could be linked to the widespread mental disorder that liberals appear to suffer.
14 posted on 12/01/2004 10:33:29 AM PST by bikepacker67 ("This is the best election night in history." -- DNC chairman Terry McAuliffe 11/2/04 8pm)
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To: presidio9

Well, it's either bullying, or it's because they are Homos. I bet it's because they are Homos...


15 posted on 12/01/2004 10:33:54 AM PST by Chad Fairbanks (01010010 01001111 01010100 01000110 01001100)
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To: presidio9

Could it be that widespread mental illness might be part of what causes them to behave the way they do in their sexual proclivities in the first place?

Not a PC idea, but one that has not been debunked! When the Psychiatrics removed Homosexuality from being listed as a mental illness is had absolutely nothing to do with any new research proving that it wasn't. Simply Politics.


16 posted on 12/01/2004 10:34:03 AM PST by HamiltonJay ("You cannot strengthen the weak by weakening the strong.")
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To: bullseye876

Excuse me, are you promoting Scientology as a source of explanation or a solution for *anything*?


17 posted on 12/01/2004 10:34:09 AM PST by HostileTerritory
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To: WashingtonSource

Bingo. We have a winner for accuracy, truth and brevity.


18 posted on 12/01/2004 10:35:06 AM PST by JeeperFreeper
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To: bullseye876
Know any Scientologists? Ask them what homosexuality is. Aberrant behaviour, plain and simple.

What is normal behavior? Giving all of your money to a "church" to buy time with a five-dollar E-meter, just so you can find out that your body is full of "Thetans?"

PS: if you donate enough money, you get to find out that your body itself is made up of "clusters" of Thetans.

Which is more aberrant: having male genitals inserted into your rectum (something many straight women do), or spending your life to raise money for an insane cult?

19 posted on 12/01/2004 10:36:28 AM PST by xm177e2 (Stalinists, Maoists, Ba'athists, Pacifists: Why are they always on the same side?)
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To: HostileTerritory

"Excuse me, are you promoting Scientology as a source of explanation or a solution for *anything*?"

I think he's saying more along the lines of *even* the Scientologists agree.


20 posted on 12/01/2004 10:37:12 AM PST by osboy (Never argue with an idiot. He'll drag you down to his level and beat you with experience.)
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To: presidio9
A study found that attacks and bullying could be linked to the widespread mental disorder that homosexuals appear to suffer.

Well yeah, the whole point of bullying them is to get them to commit suicide.

21 posted on 12/01/2004 10:38:27 AM PST by xm177e2 (Stalinists, Maoists, Ba'athists, Pacifists: Why are they always on the same side?)
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To: presidio9

They've been ABUSED - sexually or physically. This has been known for YEARS! They're angry. They're emotionally confused.


22 posted on 12/01/2004 10:38:42 AM PST by nmh (Intelligent people recognize Intelligent Design (God).)
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To: presidio9
Honestly, does anybody out there know what these people are talking about? At the company I work for, they bend over backwards to be nice to gays. Well, that's a fairly ugly picture, but you get the idea...

I don't think actively homosexual men make good scoutmasters for Boy Scouts, any more than I think horny heterosexual males would make good leaders for Girl Scouts. But aside from the people who insist that they keep their hands off our kids, what sort of "discrimination" do they actually suffer? I know that if I said something critical to a gay person at my office, I'd be the one getting crucifued for it.

23 posted on 12/01/2004 10:39:08 AM PST by Kenton ("Life is tough, and it's really tough when you're stupid" - Damon Runyon)
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To: WashingtonSource

Right. The dirty secret is that most of these people are very ill to begin with. They also carry other diseases like that new strain of strep (from shaving all hair), some new disease in the EU, Hepititus C and AIDS.

This is filthy lifestyle, with 87% of gay men having more than 15 lovers according to a University of Chicago story.


24 posted on 12/01/2004 10:40:30 AM PST by fooman (Get real with Kim Jung Mentally Ill about proliferation)
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To: bullseye876
Know any Scientologists? Ask them what homosexuality is.

And I should give any credence at all to the position of the "Church" of Scientology about mental health because...?

25 posted on 12/01/2004 10:41:03 AM PST by jejones
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To: HostileTerritory

Did the bullying make you gay?


26 posted on 12/01/2004 10:41:07 AM PST by presidio9 (Islam is as Islam does)
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To: presidio9

Projection at it's finest


27 posted on 12/01/2004 10:41:47 AM PST by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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To: Kenton

Don't you remember? A gay guy got killed once (Matthew Shepherd).


28 posted on 12/01/2004 10:42:59 AM PST by Sans-Culotte
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To: presidio9

On the other hand, being gay might be a symptom of a mentally ill person who enjoys doing him/her/it/other's self harm.


29 posted on 12/01/2004 10:47:14 AM PST by cake_crumb (Goal of the Left="One Wing to Rule Them all and in the Darkness Bind Them")
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To: WashingtonSource

Women are the main reason I'm not homosexual.


30 posted on 12/01/2004 10:49:30 AM PST by Trampled by Lambs ("Making Al Gore regret inventing the internet, one post at a time")
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To: Trampled by Lambs

I love men so much I married on. Guess I'm gay...and wasn't even bullied in school either.


31 posted on 12/01/2004 10:50:30 AM PST by cake_crumb (Goal of the Left="One Wing to Rule Them all and in the Darkness Bind Them")
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To: presidio9
"Correlation is not causation."
32 posted on 12/01/2004 10:51:14 AM PST by 50sDad ( ST3d - Star Trek Tri-D Chess! http://my.oh.voyager.net/~abartmes)
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To: fooman

Um, well, I believe that anal sex (sorry to be graphic) is a very efficient way to transmit disease, and to the extent people have multiple partners it of course has a chance to spread.

In other words, a medically unhealthy lifestyle.

I wonder if a comparison to obesity is useful. People have said that each of these conditions may be the result of a "genetic predisposition" to certain behavior. A very controversial idea, but even assuming it's true, it's been established that each behavior leads to health problems. So why is one behavior (overeating) discouraged and the other (gay sex) is not - in fact the whole marriage controversy seeks to enshrine the practice in law.

Kids are cruel. I was the fat kid who got picked on. I did not have to spend years in therapy getting over it.

And I think I have the responsibility, as a rational human being and not an unthinking animal in a barnyard or jungle, to recognize my own harmful behavior and to CONTROL MYSELF.

Just some thoughts.

:)


33 posted on 12/01/2004 10:51:31 AM PST by cvq3842
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To: RockinRight

"And all these years I thought homosexuality was caused by being gay..."

I was under the impression that gaiety caused homosexuality. Everybody thanks I'm a grouch.


34 posted on 12/01/2004 10:52:04 AM PST by F.J. Mitchell (If you were still in the womb, would you trust your life to Specter?????)
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To: presidio9


Reading this article is causing me high levels of stress.


35 posted on 12/01/2004 10:53:25 AM PST by msnimje
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To: cvq3842
I use that analogy and alcoholism all the time. Right on.
36 posted on 12/01/2004 10:55:26 AM PST by fooman (Get real with Kim Jung Mentally Ill about proliferation)
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To: presidio9
Why do these people always get it backward. Homosexuals' wrong thinking leads to the widespread mental disorder that homosexuals appear to suffer. It also leads to deviant behaviour. (Desire leads to action, not the other way around) This further leads to chemical changes in the brain. The Psychiatrists detect the chemicals, proclaim them to be the cause of the homosexual's inability to control his own thoughts and tell him his behaviour is normal and his guilt is a funtion of his depression. Of course now, his ability to function in normal society is limited to the degree that he cannot handle hostile people. He is now the perfect target for the truly hateful outbursts of the basically mean people who exist in any society.
37 posted on 12/01/2004 10:56:54 AM PST by derheimwill (Tagline, Schmagline)
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To: msnimje
"Reading this article is causing me high levels of stress."

Some of the replies'll help relieve it though

38 posted on 12/01/2004 10:56:58 AM PST by cake_crumb (Goal of the Left="One Wing to Rule Them all and in the Darkness Bind Them")
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To: fooman

Let's not forget the statistic of 99.9% mortality by age 60 for active homosexuals that have multiple partners.


39 posted on 12/01/2004 10:57:08 AM PST by VRWCTexan (History has a long memory - but still repeats itself)
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To: fooman

Aha! So first they demand the right to marry, and in the next increment they demand that poligimy, be legalized, so they can marry all their lovers.


40 posted on 12/01/2004 10:59:30 AM PST by F.J. Mitchell (If you were still in the womb, would you trust your life to Specter?????)
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To: VRWCTexan

I know a guy who dropped out of HArvard for a year and tried to commit suicide several times.

After his therapy visits, he suddenly realized that he was 'gay'.

I wish I could remember the name of that new super VD that has hit the EU homos.


41 posted on 12/01/2004 11:00:39 AM PST by fooman (Get real with Kim Jung Mentally Ill about proliferation)
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To: F.J. Mitchell

roger that .


42 posted on 12/01/2004 11:01:04 AM PST by fooman (Get real with Kim Jung Mentally Ill about proliferation)
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To: cake_crumb
Where is Sam Kinnison when he's really needed?
43 posted on 12/01/2004 11:01:42 AM PST by investigateworld (( Another Cali refugee in Oregon . ))
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To: fooman

Alcoholism. I never thought of that!

Right!


44 posted on 12/01/2004 11:01:45 AM PST by cvq3842
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To: presidio9
BTTT


What We Can Do To Help Defeat the "Gay" Agenda


Homosexual Agenda: Categorical Index of Links (Version 1.1)


Myth and Reality about Homosexuality--Sexual Orientation Section, Guide to Family Issues"

46 posted on 12/01/2004 11:06:37 AM PST by EdReform (Free Republic - helping to keep our country a free republic. Thank you for your financial support!)
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To: VRWCTexan

"99.9% mortality by age 60."

LOL! I first read mortality as morality. I guess that would apply to, come to think about it-there is very little hanky panky in the grave.


47 posted on 12/01/2004 11:07:05 AM PST by F.J. Mitchell (If you were still in the womb, would you trust your life to Specter?????)
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To: presidio9

Could be? Uh, yeah, and it could be linked to Pudding Pops, but it isn't. Homosexuality is a symptom of the mental disorder.


48 posted on 12/01/2004 11:07:11 AM PST by The Ghost of FReepers Past (Legislatures are so outdated. If you want real political victory, take your issue to court.)
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To: presidio9

This whole thread is just gay.


50 posted on 12/01/2004 11:09:19 AM PST by the_devils_advocate_666
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