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Correction: Texas Exit Poll Glance [TX Hispanic vores: Bush 49%, Kerry 50%; not Bush 59% Kerry 41%]
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| Nov 29, 2004
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Posted on 12/01/2004 6:33:20 PM PST by Mike Fieschko
In the Nov. 3 BC-ELN--Texas Glance and BC-TX Exit-Poll Excerpts, The Associated Press overstated President Bush (news - web sites)'s support among Texas Hispanics. Under a post-election adjustment by exit poll providers Edison Media Research and Mitofsky International, 49 percent of Hispanics in the state voted for Bush, not a majority. The revised result does not differ to a statistically significant degree from Bush's 43 percent support among Texas Hispanics in a 2000 exit poll. The revised BC-TX-Exit-Poll Excerpts showed that 20 percent, not 23 percent, of all Texas voters were Hispanic. They voted 50 percent for Kerry and 49 percent for Bush, not 41-59 Kerry-Bush.
TOPICS: News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Texas
KEYWORDS: 2004; bushvictory; election; hispanicvote; immigration
Title should be 'votes', not 'vores'.
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posted on
12/01/2004 6:34:28 PM PST
by
Mike Fieschko
(I'm not part of the problem. I'm a Republican.)
To: Mike Fieschko
Exit poll.... multiply by what day of the month it is, divide by the exact time right now, and you have an equally reliable result.
To: Mike Fieschko
Do we believe this? No. Maybe the experts know what the numbers were, but none of these polls is trustworthy.
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posted on
12/01/2004 6:39:30 PM PST
by
Cicero
(Nil illegitemus carborundum est)
To: Mike Fieschko
I think it was President Kerry who proved that Exit polls are very accurate.
The problem is huge numbers of voters won't even talk to exit pollers.
It is impossible to get good information when a huge number of actual voters will not let Exit Pollsters poll them.
Exit polls are no longer worth a pitcher of warm spit. They are worthless.
To: Mike Fieschko
In politics there are only two types: Winners and Losers.
Those who don't appeal to Hispanic voters will be the losers of the future.
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posted on
12/01/2004 6:42:49 PM PST
by
bayourod
(Bush said. "Let's see if I can say it as plainly as I can: I am for the intelligence bill.")
To: Mike Fieschko
..49 percent of Hispanics in the state voted for Bush, not a majority. The revised result does not differ to a statistically significant degree from Bush's 43 percent support among Texas Hispanics in a 2000 exit poll. Well that makes sense doesn't it? After all 43 and 49 are all the same, statistically speaking. Losing by 57 to 43 or losing by 51 to 49 is, statistically speaking, just the same.
It this guy and idiot or am I missing something? Did Bush improve his percentage by 6/43 or about 14% or didn't he. Is a 14% improvement insignificant? If the Republicans get another 14% increase in 2006 or 2008 do you think that will be significant?
To: Mike Fieschko
They just NOW calculated an exit poll?
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posted on
12/01/2004 6:48:12 PM PST
by
lawdude
(Leftists see what they believe. Conservatives believe what they see.)
To: Mike Fieschko
Maybe we should dig up Dick Nixon and make him president again. I just revised the polls and they show that he actually WAS loved by the masses and Clintons Job Approval was really only 18% during Impeachment.
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posted on
12/01/2004 6:50:54 PM PST
by
digger48
To: SteveMcKing
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posted on
12/01/2004 6:55:18 PM PST
by
seastay
To: InterceptPoint; SteveMcKing; Cicero; Common Tator
I wonder if anyone has gone to Blumenthal's site and read how he, a professional pollster, analyzes this. Did you read what an expert has to say?
There have been a lot of postings here about how Bush increased his support among Catholics, married women, and Jews. (I'm probably forgetting some groups.) Are we to throw out all analysis and go only with total / gross, votes?
If you don't like Blumenthal, say why, or look at Patrick Ruffini's analysis.
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posted on
12/01/2004 6:56:17 PM PST
by
Mike Fieschko
(I'm not part of the problem. I'm a Republican.)
To: Mike Fieschko
I'm still shocked that Bush won the county with Brownsville.
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posted on
12/01/2004 6:57:58 PM PST
by
Dan from Michigan
("now we got this guy in the Oval office who don't take no sh*t from no gimpy little countries!")
To: lawdude
They just NOW calculated an exit poll?
No ... the data have been trickling out slowly.
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posted on
12/01/2004 6:58:33 PM PST
by
Mike Fieschko
(I'm not part of the problem. I'm a Republican.)
To: Mike Fieschko
Bush got more white votes than he did in 2000-- mostly Catholic whites and some evangelical white voters who stayed home in 2000. That's why he won. I knew this already.
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posted on
12/01/2004 7:00:08 PM PST
by
GraniteStateConservative
(...He had committed no crime against America so I did not bring him here...-- Worst.President.Ever.)
To: Mike Fieschko
I wonder if anyone has gone to Blumenthal's site and read how he, a professional pollster I wonder how all those expert exit pollsters produced numbers saying Kerry was going to win. The noon, 2pm, 4m and 6pm Exit poll numbers on election day said Kerry was going to win in a landslide.
They were way off in the 2000 election as well. The exit polls in 2000 had Georgia and North Carolina too close to call and Florida a big win for Gore. Exit polling is just plain worthless. Exit polls have a terrible track record.
Exit polls are not worth anything... because so many voters refuse to be polled. Guessing how the voters who refuse to be polled voted is worthless. The pollsters are at best 50 percent accurate on how these people voted. Their methodology is little better than flipping a coin.
With the high number of people refusing to even talk to exit pollsters, the results are worthless.
To: Common Tator
I wonder how all those expert exit pollsters produced numbers saying Kerry was going to win.
Since you ask, it was because the raw data was released (by Kerry's people?) to people with no or little idea how to analyze data which, for example, over sampled women. (That's just off the top of my head. There might have been other problems with the data.)
Exit polls are not worth anything... because so many voters refuse to be polled.
If that's your position, then I suppose you toss out polling which showed Bush got more whites, blacks, Jews, Catholics, and perhaps other groups, to vote for him.
Is there something special about exit polls, or do pre-election polls also suffer from the 'refuse to be polled' problem?
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posted on
12/01/2004 7:28:37 PM PST
by
Mike Fieschko
(I'm not part of the problem. I'm a Republican.)
To: Bloatedgoat
Woopty doooo.
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posted on
12/01/2004 7:29:43 PM PST
by
raybbr
To: Mike Fieschko
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