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Apocalypse Known (Idiot Alert)
New Haven Advocate ^ | December 2, 2004 | Mark Oppenheimer

Posted on 12/02/2004 8:10:17 PM PST by moonpie57

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To: moonpie57
Please pause a moment for those never accounted for
from WW II, Korea and Viet Nam.
There are things we as FReepers can do to help our POW/MIA's
Please see what you can do to help.
POW/MIA Awareness Campaigns-Get Involved


POW/MIA Web Ring List of sites.

Prisoners of War / Missing In Action

  World War I World War II Korean War Cold War Southeast Asia
Total POW/MIA 7,323 194,879 12,654 124 2,440
POWs Returned 3,973 116,129 4,439 0 591
Still Missing and Unaccounted For 3,350 78,750 8,215 124 1,849

21 posted on 12/02/2004 8:40:43 PM PST by 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub (Never Forget)
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To: Jet Jaguar

"What about Spiecher, and what about Matt Maupin? This flag not only represents those in Vietnam, but all conflicts."

Exactly.


22 posted on 12/02/2004 8:43:19 PM PST by Kirkwood
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To: Jackson Brown
This flys, on Highyway 101, in front of my house, 24/7


23 posted on 12/02/2004 8:46:02 PM PST by 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub (Never Forget)
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To: Doctor Raoul

Typical Hanoi Kerry spin!


24 posted on 12/02/2004 8:48:16 PM PST by 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub (Why do 99 US Senators allow a traitor in their midst? Why is main stream right wing media silent?)
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To: Jet Jaguar

Wait, is this a**clown trying to say the generic POW/MIA flag applies to Viet vets only?

Tell him "We still fly it in Florida because we don't have a living Scott Speicher, or his remains to respectfully bury. And we won't take it the F down until then. So stick your request where the sun don't shine."


25 posted on 12/02/2004 9:02:05 PM PST by mbennett203 (To re-elect Bush, dominate congress and to hear the lamentations of the Democrats!)
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To: moonpie57

My reply to "editor@newhavenadvocate.com":

About the question:

"Why do we fly the Vietnam POW/MIA flag when all the veterans of that war have been accounted for?"

I am a Vietnam Vet, not a grunt, but I went there so others wouldn’t. Two of my college fraternity brothers are on The Wall and a third spent five years learning how to walk with just a cane.

Why should we keep flying that flag? Mark Openheimer offered a single reason.

Let me offer a few to keep it flying.

1. It is a personal memorial to those who never returned.

2. It is a memorial that is THERE, at you place of residence, to remind you daily of the cost - in human futures - of your individual freedoms.

3. Remember that the POW/MIA flag was NOT something that the government designed nor initially approved of.

4. The POW/MIA flag reminds us of those who had no idea of how to win the war or to stop it.

These political cowards fed us into a war because they were unwilling to pay a POLITICAL price for saying “I don’t know what to do about Vietnam.” The human cost of those eight words was how many American and Vietnamese lives? How often does Mark Openheimer want to pay that butcher’s bill?

If flying that flag reminds our current and future leaders of the political stupidity and cowardness that caused Vietnam then I say fly it from every flag pole every day!

Emmett A. Redding
Major, USAF Retired


26 posted on 12/02/2004 9:16:50 PM PST by Nip ("You can run; but then you'll only die tired" - Spectre T-shirt Logo)
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To: moonpie57

This really makes me steam as I display this flag in my business every single day.

Living in Cambodia, I've had the opportunity to make friends with a number of soldiers and other specialist with the Joint Task Force whose mission is to find and bring home the remains of our soldiers lost during the Vietnam conflict. These same missions are also happening elsewhere in the world. To me, "You are not forgotten" means precisely that, full respect and accountability for those who have never came home, whatever their status might be.


27 posted on 12/02/2004 9:26:39 PM PST by cambodia (I've spent more Christmas's in Cambodia than Kerry)
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To: moonpie57

thanks for posting that.

The POW/MIA flag flys at our house as well.
Always will. As long as there is one service member unaccounted for, we will keep that flag flying. And if the day ever comes (I pray it will) that all ARE accounted for, I will celebrate with unending joy the lowering of that flag.

God Bless America


28 posted on 12/02/2004 10:28:56 PM PST by mumzie (www.combatvetsagainstkerry.com)
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To: cambodia

"Living in Cambodia, I've had the opportunity to make friends with a number of soldiers and other specialist with the Joint Task Force whose mission is to find and bring home the remains of our soldiers lost during the Vietnam conflict. "

My husband was over there with JTF. He said it was the best mission he ever undertook. He proudly helped recover four MIAs. He had his retirement ceremony at the Wall South under the name of one of the men.


29 posted on 12/02/2004 10:44:33 PM PST by imskylark
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To: Graybeard58
There are POW's walking by you on the street or in the grocery store. Sitting in the car behind you at McDonald's drive through, sitting next to you at the ball game or at work. The prison is in their minds with the war locked inside. MIA's. The one's that never came back are always missing. That black flag is about them. The other one is about us.
At least that's how I look at it.
30 posted on 12/02/2004 10:52:51 PM PST by crabpott (' we are living in the strangest, most perilous, and unbelievable decade in modern memory' VDH)
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To: Calpernia; Velveeta

Did you read this POW thread?


31 posted on 12/03/2004 1:33:50 AM PST by nw_arizona_granny (Today, please pray for God's miracle, we are not going to make it without him.)
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To: moonpie57
Why do we continue to fly the Vietnam POW/MIA flag when all veterans of that war have been accounted for?

Please correct me if I am wrong, but this statement is blatently untrue.

While Kerry & McCain did indeed state that there was no evidence that there were still POW's in Vietnam - the fact remanins that these people are still missing - fate unknown.

Oh yeah, one more thing: "It's also the flag of today's soldiers, who--like Vietnam veterans--run the risk of being abandoned by their government. President Bush is paying them too little, forcing them to work too long, and lying to them about the reasons for his decisions." Is this guy for real??
Is he REALLY comparing the two? Soldiers who served in Vietnam were comparatively "well paid"? Didn't work as long? Weren't lied to about the reasons for being there??

I'm glad there was an idiot alert to this article. Otherwise I might have assumed that the author was rational.

32 posted on 12/03/2004 2:04:53 AM PST by An.American.Expatriate ((This space for let))
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To: moonpie57
It's also the flag of today's soldiers, who--like Vietnam veterans--run the risk of being abandoned by their government. President Bush is paying them too little, forcing them to work too long, and lying to them about the reasons for his decisions.

Right. Another "bush evil-- America evil-- we only love our soldiers when they shoot their officers" type...

Nope, no bias here, folks, just keep moving.

33 posted on 12/03/2004 4:46:15 AM PST by LadyDoc (liberals only love politically correct poor people)
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