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Border Security Can't Be Ignored
front page ^ | 12-03-04 | Bobby Eberle

Posted on 12/03/2004 4:00:56 AM PST by Klickitat

Border Security Can't Be Ignored By Bobby Eberle GOPUSA.com | December 3, 2004

Although the heated political debate from the presidential campaign is now over, the business of governance and protecting the homeland remains. One of the issues being addressed by the lame duck Congress is that of reforming the way national intelligence information is gathered, shared, and organized. Reforming the intelligence community is a vital element in waging an effective war on terror, and through this debate an equally important element has resurfaced. Legislation in the U.S. House of Representatives is now stalled, and this is partly due to the fact that important border security measures were excluded from consideration.

President George W. Bush says fighting the war on terror is of the utmost importance, and he is right. However, to be serious about fighting the war, America must be focused on winning the war. America must not just have better intelligence to track terrorists and disrupt their plans to cause harm to our citizens on American soil, but America must also stop the terrorists before they enter the country. Thus, the time has come to have an open and honest debate on border security.

Rep. James Sensenbrenner (R-WI), chairman of the House Judiciary Committee, said that one of the key elements missing from the intelligence reform legislation was that of immigration reform. In particular, Sensenbrenner said that it is far too easy for those who are in America illegally to get driver's licenses.

Sensenbrenner told Fox News that the nineteen hijackers involved in the September 11, 2001 terrorist attacks had been issued a total of sixty-three valid driver's licenses.

According to reports by Knight Ridder, Sensenbrenner wants to reinsert immigration provisions dropped in earlier negotiations, "such as expedited deportation and unlimited detention of immigrants suspected, but not convicted, of terrorism." Knight Ridder adds that those provisions had been opposed by the White House.

Sensenbrenner is right, and the White House should put politics aside and realize that any homeland security effort is incomplete unless it addresses border security. According to a report by the Center for Immigration Studies, among the 4.3 million new immigrants to America since 2000, approximately 2 million are illegal. These illegal aliens don't just include migrant workers but certainly have in their midst potential terrorists and their allies.

The report states that there has been "no major change in policy" regarding illegal immigration since the terrorist attacks of September 11, 2001. According to Steven Camarota, the author of the report, while visa applicants from some parts of the world may have to wait a little longer for approval and a tiny number of illegal aliens from selected countries may have been detained, this does not constitute a major change in policy and has no meaningful impact on the number of people settling in the United States.

In a Time Magazine feature story from September 20, the authors, Donald L. Barlett and James B. Steele, contrast the typical airline flight experience where shoes, belts, pockets, and laptops are examined with the fact that in a single day, "4,000 illegal aliens will walk across the busiest unlawful gateway into the U.S., the 375-mile border between Arizona and Mexico. No searches for weapons. No shoe removal. No photo-ID checks. Before long, many will obtain phony identification papers, including bogus Social Security numbers, to conceal their true identities and mask their unlawful presence."

The Time Magazine authors also make the staggering claim, based on their investigation, that the U.S. borders, "rather than becoming more secure since 9/11, have grown even more porous." Barlett and Steele estimate that three million illegal aliens will enter into the United States in 2004. In addition, while the vast majority are from Mexico, "a small but sharply growing number come from other countries, including those with large populations hostile to the U.S."

The article continues by noting, "based on longtime government formulas for calculating how many [illegal aliens] elude capture, that as many as 190,000 illegals from countries other than Mexico have melted into the U.S. population so far this year." If this fact isn't enough for the White House and Congress to take notice, I'm not sure what it will take.

There are two primary debates involving illegal immigration, and unfortunately, many times they are treated as a single debate which is "off limits" due to political correctness and the desire of elected officials to not be labeled as racist or prejudiced. Whenever a legislator attempts to raise the issue of border security and address illegal immigration, that public servant receives a brand that is hard to shake. Even conservative publications such as the Wall Street Journal and talking heads like Jack Kemp have thrown out the term "anti-immigrant" to describe those who are concerned about America's security and our borders.

The two sub-issues within illegal immigration are what to do about the millions of illegal aliens already within the United States and what to do about preventing more from getting in. The secret to successfully debating the issue of border security is to treat the two sub-issues separately.

What should America do with the estimated 8-12 million illegal aliens residing within U.S. borders? Some suggest rounding them all up and deporting them or arresting them. Others suggest granting them amnesty as if no laws were ever broken. President Bush has proposed a guest worker program to fit current illegal aliens with employers who offer jobs which American citizens are unwilling to do. This sub-issue is where the "racism" card is most often played. It is a difficult issue, and one with no easy solution. However, by keeping it as it's own issue, I believe it would be possible to debate the border issue more effectively.

That second sub-issue, that of what to do to keep more illegal aliens from entering the U.S., is one that should be debated, discussed, and addressed with a level-headed focus on protecting the homeland. The primary function of the federal government is to protect its citizens, and to do so, it must be as difficult as possible for potential terrorists, drug dealers, and other criminals to enter America illegally. Any legislation that purports to address homeland security, intelligence reform, and any other topic of the war on terror, which does not address border security is not a sincere attempt to make America as safe as possible.

Following the debate in the U.S. House on the Intelligence Reform bill, Rep. Tom Tancredo (R-CO) said, "The American people want security, and they know it can never be achieved until we can secure our borders. Rushing through a 9/11 bill that doesn't address border security would have been a disservice to the families of 9/11 victims and to the American people." Tancredo is right. Border security is not a taboo issue. It is a matter of American security, and it must be addressed before another 9/11 becomes part of our history.


TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: aliens; bordersecurity; immigrantlist; immigration; intelligencereform

1 posted on 12/03/2004 4:00:56 AM PST by Klickitat
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To: Klickitat

What should America do with the estimated 8-12 million illegal aliens residing within U.S. borders? Some suggest rounding them all up and deporting them or arresting them. Others suggest granting them amnesty as if no laws were ever broken. President Bush has proposed a guest worker program to fit current illegal aliens with employers who offer jobs which American citizens are unwilling to do. This sub-issue is where the "racism" card is most often played. It is a difficult issue, and one with no easy solution. However, by keeping it as it's own issue, I believe it would be possible to debate the border issue more effectively.




someone please wake me up when there actually IS an idea about this issue. It is being talked about and talked about and screamed about, but noone seems to have any idea about how to fix the issue....


2 posted on 12/03/2004 4:15:33 AM PST by MikefromOhio (37 days until I can leave Iraq for good....)
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To: Klickitat

Tom Tancredo is one of the few politicians who is speaking out for the majority of Americans......Close the f...ing borders!!!!.....


3 posted on 12/03/2004 4:19:21 AM PST by Route101
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To: Klickitat

I don't understand why securing drivers' licenses is such a problem.

In Virginia, the DL issue was brought to the legislature shortly after 9/11, and measures were put in place to make it nearly impossible for illegals to obtain ID (in the form of learner's permits, DLs, and state ID cards).

The big change (effective 1/1/2004) is the "legal presence test" which requires a passport, birth certificate, or equivalent for first-time applicants.

To my knowledge there's been no legal challenge or outcry about the new requirements.


4 posted on 12/03/2004 4:36:04 AM PST by angkor
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To: MikeinIraq
Actually quite a few people have come up with Ideas. Just as a start.

(1)Enforce laws currently on the books and start fineing employers who hire illegals.
(2) Cut off any taxpayer aid to non-citizens.
(3) Beef up border patrols with drones and officers.

Don't expect the Vote Whores(Reserved for those politicians that care more about being elected instead of the people they are elected by), to do any of the above though, after all they can't peeve off their donor base(Big Business). What they fail to see is that sooner or later this is coming to a head, and they just might not like the outcome when it does.

5 posted on 12/03/2004 4:36:05 AM PST by JustAnAmerican (Being Independent means never having to say you're Partisan)
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To: JustAnAmerican

Don't expect the Vote Whores(Reserved for those politicians that care more about being elected instead of the people they are elected by), to do any of the above though, after all they can't peeve off their donor base(Big Business). What they fail to see is that sooner or later this is coming to a head, and they just might not like the outcome when it does.




you can talk about vote whores or whatever, but nothing is going to happen anytime soon.

Perouted or badnarikliberal?


6 posted on 12/03/2004 4:45:51 AM PST by MikefromOhio (37 days until I can leave Iraq for good....)
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To: Klickitat
The ACLU is a major obstacle to a safer America.

Moreover, None of its executive board has ever been a member of the U.S. military or a practicing Christian for these two institutions are prime targets.

7 posted on 12/03/2004 4:48:44 AM PST by squirt-gun
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To: Klickitat

When the easy credit goes away in a few years it will suprise a good many politicians the "will" the American people have.


8 posted on 12/03/2004 4:50:18 AM PST by junta (junta, "is one uppity cracker")
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To: MikeinIraq
I believe in your post you asked for suggestions on how to curb and or eliminate illegal immigration and when given a reasonable answer you completely ignore it and suggest someone is anything but conservative. I notice that the Dims use racism and the pro-illegal(supposed conservative) bunch uses "You must be a nut" label. Or "They just come here to do the work Americans will not".

But that's ok, I am part of 70-80 percent of Americans that think illegal means illegal. And that Politicans work for us, not the other way around.

9 posted on 12/03/2004 5:07:39 AM PST by JustAnAmerican (Being Independent means never having to say you're Partisan)
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To: Klickitat

How about arresting anyone who hires Illegal Aliens and let them spend a year or so in jail at their own expense.

Second offense is three years in Jail at their own expense.

The Illegals will find their own way home,soon as they get hungry.

No Benefits.
No schooling.
No Nothing.


10 posted on 12/03/2004 6:14:54 AM PST by chatham
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To: Klickitat

How about arresting anyone who hires Illegal Aliens and let them spend a year or so in jail at their own expense.

Second offense is three years in Jail at their own expense.

The Illegals will find their own way home,soon as they get hungry.

No Benefits.
No schooling.
No Nothing.


11 posted on 12/03/2004 6:14:57 AM PST by chatham
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To: JustAnAmerican

how is asking whether you voted for Badnarik or Peroutka avoiding the topic?

I still havent heard anything that will change our problems. I am all for cleaning it up, but simply enforcing the laws or beefing up border security isnt going to solve our problems.


12 posted on 12/03/2004 7:10:52 AM PST by MikefromOhio (37 days until I can leave Iraq for good....)
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13 posted on 12/03/2004 8:52:47 AM PST by gubamyster
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To: Klickitat
Border Security Can't Be Ignored

They've been doing a pretty damned good job of it so far!!!

14 posted on 12/03/2004 8:55:40 AM PST by MamaTexan (I am NOT a 'legal entity')
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To: MamaTexan; chatham; All; just another american

Do you believe Congress should pass the intelligence reform bill without the immigration and border security provisions?

Yes 20% 717 votes

No 80% 2908 votes

Total: 3625 votes

www.cnn.com/lou


Contact Senators and House of Reps:

1-877-762-8762


president@whitehouse.gov


Also, just out this article from NewsMax

Send FedEx Letters to Congress NOW!

You've probably heard that the 9/11 reform bill is being held up in Congress. Thanks to a determined group of conservative House members, the bill was stopped before it could be voted on, and a new "lame-duck" session of Congress is due to try again this coming week to get it passed.

But why did these conservative Congressmen stop the bill? According to Rep. James Sensenbrenner (R-WI), the chairman of the House Judiciary Committee, it's pretty simple: "The 9/11 reform bill is currently snagged by the Senate's refusal to address three critical issues: Should states continue to issue driver's licenses to illegal aliens? Should we tighten our asylum system that terrorists exploited to such deadly effect? Have we ensured the military chain of command is not broken in our intelligence restructuring?"

This isn't a small matter. The military chain of command is a life-or-death issue for our war fighters in Iraq and Afghanistan. Getting this issue wrong, just so we can say we passed a 9/11 bill, could have DEADLY consequences. Rep. Duncan Hunter (R-CA), the House Armed Services Committee Chairman, and many military leaders have articulated a lot of the same concerns that Sensenbrenner shares about the current bill in this area.

Intelligence-reform efforts will be wasted if Congress fails to address other security loopholes that the 9/11 hijackers studied to hatch their deadly plans. Once the 19 hijackers arrived here, they were able to secure 63 validly issued driver's licenses. Using these licenses, they were able to blend in and eventually board U.S. planes. Learning from this, the 9/11 Commission Report -- which this legislation is based upon -- recommends that the federal government "set standards for the issuance of birth certificates and other sources of identification, such as driver's licenses. Fraud in identification documents is no longer just a problem of theft." The House sought to implement this recommendation with tough security standards for driver's licenses. The Senate, so far, has largely rejected this approach.

What's so controversial about setting strong standards to stop another terrorist like Hani Hanjour from receiving a driver's license?

The House Republicans also sought to address asylum abuse, especially loopholes that terrorists use. The mastermind of the first World Trade Center attack, and an Egyptian immigrant who killed two people at the Los Angeles airport in 2002, both exploited our asylum system to remain in the U.S. Yet the Senate wants to "study" asylum abuse, and not take action!

Passing the current bill, which FAILS to comprehensively address the problems exposed by 9/11, will simply not do enough to prevent another 9/11. Congress CAN get a good bill -- one that addresses intelligence reform, terrorist asylum abuse and security for driver's licenses -- ONLY when the Senate decides it's willing to tackle these vital issues.

The fact is this -- the Senate is refusing to consider vital border security and immigration provisions in the 9/11 overhaul. The current bill is incomplete and needs work -- work that House Democrats and the Senate are refusing to do. Rep. Sensenbrenner is fighting for better security standards for drivers licenses, and he doesn't believe our national security is improved by issuing drivers licenses to illegal aliens.

That makes sense. Page 390 of the 9/11 Commission report states, "The federal government should set standards for the issuance of birth certificates and sources of identification, such as drivers licenses. Fraud in identification documents is no longer just a problem of theft."

Sensenbrenner and many dedicated House Republicans are working for a comprehensive approach to preventing another 9/11, instead of a limp, scaled-back bill that focuses only on restructuring the intelligence bureaucracy. What good is better intelligence if we don't control our borders and issue drivers licenses to people whose real identity is suspect? Border security and immigration are an integral part of homeland security -- the Senate needs to address these issues NOW.

We must NOT let the GOP leaders of the Senate and the House of Representatives push through a poor bill, just because we "need something now". We need something GOOD. We need to make our voices heard LOUD and CLEAR immediately, before these leaders make a serious mistake and ramrod this bad bill through.
As usual, you can also send a message at no charge to your own Congressman and Senators, telling them to vote for REAL 9/11 reform:

http://www.rightmarch.com/120204.htm

`snip`
www.newmax.com


15 posted on 12/03/2004 9:33:24 AM PST by AuntB (Every person who enters the U.S. illegally--from anywhere--increases the likelihood of another 9/11)
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To: MikeinIraq
It seems your position is quite clear.

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check out this thread....from the immigration is everything crowd...

287 posted on 11/30/2004 11:51:30 PM PST by MikeinIraq (40 days until I can leave Iraq for good....)

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16 posted on 12/03/2004 11:20:47 AM PST by Joe Hadenuf (I failed anger management class, they decided to give me a passing grade anyway)
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To: Joe Hadenuf

I caught Michelle Malkin on radio last night. How I wish everyone could hear her! She had a lot of information, as usual, and suggested this as a bumper sticker:

PRO-ENFORCEMENT IS NOT ANTI-IMMIGRATION.


17 posted on 12/04/2004 9:06:14 AM PST by AuntB (Every person who enters the U.S. illegally--from anywhere--increases the likelihood of another 9/11)
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