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ACLU Is Funded with Tax Payer Dollars!!
Rush Limbaugh Show - Roger Hedgecock

Posted on 12/03/2004 10:23:37 AM PST by drc43

Section 1988. Proceedings in vindication of civil rights

(a) Applicability of statutory and common law
      The jurisdiction in civil and criminal matters conferred on the
    district courts by the provisions of titles 13, 24, and 70 of the
    Revised Statutes for the protection of all persons in the United
    States in their civil rights, and for their vindication, shall be
    exercised and enforced in conformity with the laws of the United
    States, so far as such laws are suitable to carry the same into
    effect; but in all cases where they are not adapted to the object,
    or are deficient in the provisions necessary to furnish suitable
    remedies and punish offenses against law, the common law, as
    modified and changed by the constitution and statutes of the State
    wherein the court having jurisdiction of such civil or criminal
    cause is held, so far as the same is not inconsistent with the
    Constitution and laws of the United States, shall be extended to
    and govern the said courts in the trial and disposition of the
    cause, and, if it is of a criminal nature, in the infliction of
    punishment on the party found guilty.
    (b) Attorney's fees
      In any action or proceeding to enforce a provision of sections
    1981, 1981a, 1982, 1983, 1985, and 1986 of this title, title IX of
    Public Law 92-318 (20 U.S.C. 1681 et seq.), the Religious Freedom
    Restoration Act of 1993 (42 U.S.C. 2000bb et seq.), the Religious
    Land Use and Institutionalized Persons Act of 2000 (42 U.S.C.
    2000cc et seq.), title VI of the Civil Rights Act of 1964 (42
    U.S.C. 2000d et seq.), or section 13981 of this title, the court,
    in its discretion, may allow the prevailing party, other than the
    United States, a reasonable attorney's fee as part of the costs,
    except that in any action brought against a judicial officer for an
    act or omission taken in such officer's judicial capacity such
    officer shall not be held liable for any costs, including
    attorney's fees, unless such action was clearly in excess of such
    officer's jurisdiction.
    (c) Expert fees
      In awarding an attorney's fee under subsection (b) of this
    section in any action or proceeding to enforce a provision of
    section 1981 or 1981a of this title, the court, in its discretion,
    may include expert fees as part of the attorney's fee.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: aclu; extortion; federalfunding; lawsuits; taxpayer
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Comment #21 Removed by Moderator

To: drc43

"We are being sued with our own money!!"


Conversely, some people are suing to GET their own money back!


22 posted on 12/03/2004 10:46:06 AM PST by Blzbba (Conservative Republican - Less gov't, less spending, less intrusion.)
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To: drc43

There should be lawsuits filed by individuals around the country against the ACLU for what they've been pulling.

The Thomas More Law Center is a pro-bono organization set up to defend Christians against attacks.


http://www.thomasmore.org/

The Thomas More Law Center is a not-for-profit public interest law firm dedicated to the defense and promotion of the religious freedom of Christians, time-honored family values, and the sanctity of human life. Our purpose is to be the sword and shield for people of faith, providing legal representation without charge to defend and protect Christians and their religious beliefs in the public square.


23 posted on 12/03/2004 10:47:20 AM PST by texasbluebell
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To: drc43

Yep. Betcha it is the same sort of setup in the other liberal legislate-through-litigation organizations too.


24 posted on 12/03/2004 10:59:54 AM PST by The Ghost of FReepers Past (Legislatures are so outdated. If you want real political victory, take your issue to court.)
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To: mcg1969
In fact, we ought to see an expansion of "loser pay" in this country.

"Loser pays" would be great, as long as our system is consistent in dispensing justice. It seems like the obvious problem would be that anyone with the means to hire a Dream Team of lawyers would forever be insulated from little guys like me. No matter how good my case might be in truth, I likely couldn't afford to take the risk of losing.

Some people think our justice system already belongs to those who can afford the better lawyers. Unless I'm missing something, it seems like "loser pays" could provide some justification for that opinion.

I guess the Brits have it to some extent. If it works, I wonder how.

25 posted on 12/03/2004 11:00:21 AM PST by newgeezer (When encryption is outlawed, rwei qtjske ud alsx zkjwejruc.)
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To: newgeezer
"Loser pays" would be great, as long as our system is consistent in dispensing justice."

In this case, ACLU recovers their expenses and fees and salaries under a Federal Code intended for Civil Rights infractions.

Win or Lose.

26 posted on 12/03/2004 11:04:02 AM PST by drc43 (We have 4 years left to get it right)
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To: drc43

The ACLU, like any other litigant who sues for violations of civil rights laws, only gets attorney's fees if they prevail.

The alternative would be for persons to violate civil rights and get away with it because litigants could not not afford to litigate.


27 posted on 12/03/2004 11:04:03 AM PST by CobaltBlue
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To: drc43
Win or Lose.

Wrong, only if they "substantially prevail".

28 posted on 12/03/2004 11:06:13 AM PST by CobaltBlue
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To: CobaltBlue
"Wrong, only if they "substantially prevail"."

Ok, I guess I heard wrong.

Thanks

29 posted on 12/03/2004 11:07:43 AM PST by drc43 (We have 4 years left to get it right)
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To: itsmyboy

Why can't you eliminate an organization whose political ideology you dislike? Is that a serious question?

Try "this is America, we have to tolerate organizations with political ideologies we dislike".


30 posted on 12/03/2004 11:07:52 AM PST by CobaltBlue
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To: drc43

No prob. I've fought, and won, several civil rights cases myself.


31 posted on 12/03/2004 11:08:53 AM PST by CobaltBlue
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To: newgeezer

The law should be designed not to discourage honest lawsuits but should make it quite easy to assign attorney fees in the case of a genuine dispute, and nearly automatic in the case of a frivolous lawsuit. The most important part of a loser pay system is that it not be automatic, but rather subject to judicial review. I'd also like to see the attorney fee award appealable, separate from the primary decision.


32 posted on 12/03/2004 11:36:11 AM PST by mcg1969
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To: CobaltBlue

Re #31 -

"No prob. I've fought, and won, several civil rights cases myself."

Well, OK... but whose side are you on there, Podnah? }B^{!~

UJ, wondering in ME


33 posted on 12/03/2004 11:46:33 AM PST by Uncle Jaque (Vigilance!)
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To: CobaltBlue
"No prob. I've fought, and won, several civil rights cases myself."

I think this is a good example of the "Law of Unintended Consequences".

When laws regarding civil rights were drafted, who knew that years later, the Boy Scouts, the Ten Commandments, hints of the word God, a Cross, Christmas, a Nativity Scene, or other parts from the fabric of our society would be considered threats to our Civil Rights?

34 posted on 12/03/2004 11:53:29 AM PST by drc43 (We have 4 years left to get it right)
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To: drc43

I don't have time to read through this entire thread, but is there a petition being circulated to call for Congress to repeal this law?


35 posted on 12/03/2004 12:11:22 PM PST by TommyDale
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To: CobaltBlue
"The ACLU, like any other litigant who sues for violations of civil rights laws, only gets attorney's fees if they prevail." Actually, they get reimbursed even when they lose, if the case involved civil rights. That is what makes them so disgusting.
36 posted on 12/03/2004 12:15:25 PM PST by TommyDale
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To: TommyDale
Actually, Congressman Cunningham from California called in and has promised to introduce legislation to deal with this. He said he would work with Sensenbrenner (sp?) on this.

He could NOT believe the law could be twisted in this manner.

37 posted on 12/03/2004 12:21:08 PM PST by drc43 (We have 4 years left to get it right)
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To: CobaltBlue
The ACLU, like any other litigant who sues for violations of civil rights laws, only gets attorney's fees if they prevail. The alternative would be for persons to violate civil rights and get away with it because litigants could not not afford to litigate.

Except the taxpayers do not get reimbursed if the ACLU is defeated in one of their lawsuits of adventure.

38 posted on 12/03/2004 12:23:57 PM PST by Hacksaw (You can judge a man by the members of his bump list.)
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To: drc43

The IRS should determine whether the ACLU----through its Foundation----is properly accounting for all of its tax-funded activities, whether it is inflating legal costs, and whether the ACLU is using tax dollars for the purposes stated.


As part of the Tax Exempt Compensation Enforcement Project, the IRS announced it intends to examine non-profit organizations (NPO's) and foundations, to learn more about the practices nonprofits follow as they fill out Form 990, the main public disclosure documents for NPO's, including charities and foundations, and whether accounting fraud and tax evasion is taking place, and whether the compensation of specific individuals is excessive and, and whether instances of questionable compensation practices may evade IRS, and US banking laws.

We need to know whether the ACLU is engaged in Enron-style accounting and spending practices using our tax dollars, and whether the ACLU is cooking the books.


39 posted on 12/03/2004 12:28:10 PM PST by Liz
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To: b4its2late; Recovering_Democrat; Alissa; Pan_Yans Wife; LADY J; mathluv; browardchad; cardinal4; ...

40 posted on 12/03/2004 12:33:10 PM PST by Born Conservative (Entertainment is a thing of the past, today we've got television - Archie Bunker)
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