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Seinfeld and Co. ruined my life
BGNews ^ | 12/2/04 | George Valko

Posted on 12/03/2004 6:38:40 PM PST by qam1

I look around me everyday and I see beautiful women. It could be very tempting to go out and date them. Going out every weekend to the clubs and picking up an assortment of chicks like so many kinds of chocolates in a Valentine's Day gift. But I will not!

It has taken me years, but I am finally getting over the lasting effects of "Seinfeld."

Yes, "Seinfeld." What is considered the greatest show/sitcom of all time has also been the biggest plague/curse on my life.

Students currently attending the University are part of the "Seinfeld" generation. Society has branded us "Generation X," and that might be so, but within the all encompassing "Generation X" lies a subset of post-pubescent adultlings.

Growing up, we "Seinfeldites" would come to learn of the adult world through the dark shadow that is "Seinfeld."

There are two role models for men in "Seinfeld" -- Jerry and George.

If you could have your pick, Jerry is the obvious choice.

He has lots of money, travels all the time; his crazy friends get into all kinds of amusing trouble, and he meets women faster than a shirtless Colin Farrell at a sorority house holding DVD box sets of Friends and the most recent "embattled woman fights for her rights" Julia Roberts movie.

All I am saying is that he was getting laid, constantly. He was getting the fine booty that all men crave.

This left an indelible impression on a young man. This, I assumed, was the fate of all halfway decent looking men.

Life would be like an RPG in which you find the best women you can at the time, until someone better comes along. Then you level up. The goal of the game is to get the level up as much as possible while using the least amount of continues.

However, Jerry was not the only character that has influenced our nation's youth. George Costanza or "Can't Stanz Ya" depending on your pronunciation, has left the best minds of our time with serious mental diseases and complexes.

No matter how slick you think you are, enough Costanza in your life will cause you to doubt yourself and all you believe in. George was obviously the most despicable and interesting character on the show.

He would lie his way into sex, jobs, marriage, out of marriage, fake disability, race old people in 9-volt scooters, take naps under his desk, have sex with cleaning ladies in his office and was the cheapest bastard on the face of the earth.

As awful a person as he might seem on the surface, there is a little George Costanza in all of us.

And the more you watch him, the larger that little Costanza inside you grows, until there is nothing left but a 35-year-old bald man with no job, no prospects and no reason to get up in the morning -- except to read the daily news.

Just think what kind of a result just these characters have on the psyche of children. And these are only two of many sexual deviants and immoral miscreants "Seinfeld" would propagate!

What does a boy learn by watching Elaine or Kramer?

From Elaine you learn that most women have little sense of humor and are only funny when extremely pissed off.

And from Kramer you learn that you can get by in life, with no job and no money just by mooching off the guy across the hall.

Having spent years getting over the mental strain and irregular development caused me by this show, I have filed a class action lawsuit with Jerry Seinfeld and the creators of "Seinfeld."

The suit is being brought now, in part due to the fact that the DVDs were recently released, and I fear that I will have a re-lapse and years of therapy will have been for naught.

Students can get in on this suit by going to www."Seinfeld"_ruined_my_life.com


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Extended News
KEYWORDS: bullwinkle; genx; getalife; seinfeld
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To: LibertyRocks

AND only 9 seconds apart, too! weird...


221 posted on 12/04/2004 1:56:42 AM PST by LibertyRocks
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To: Revolting cat!
It's overrated, the characters are obnoxious and self-centered

Duh! This is what the finale was all about. They ARE unlikeable shallow characters. That's what makes it funny.

I certainly could relate to them more than I ever could to the fictional drunkards on CHEEAHS.

222 posted on 12/04/2004 1:57:33 AM PST by weegee (WE FOUGHT ZOGBYISM November 2, 2004 - 60 Million Voters versus 60 Minutes - BUSH WINS!!!)
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To: Clemenza
On the other hand, I never got what was so great about Survivor, American Idol...

Neither did I. I got stuck watching the last 15 minutes of "Survivor" once at the home of some friends and thought it was about the stupidest thing I'd ever seen.

I always did enjoy Seinfeld as did several of my friends and I'm not from New York. I visit there about once a year, though and have an appreciation for NYC, so that may play into it.

223 posted on 12/04/2004 2:00:41 AM PST by Allegra (16 days until I'm home!)
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To: LibertyRocks

Actually I caught Jerry Seinfeld regularly on Letterman and Carson during college. I even caught a live show from Jerry at Catch A Rising Star.

I was interested when his summer replacement show aired but it didn't last.

Generation X DID grow up with Seinfeld, we just didn't necessarily "look up" to it. I accepted it and Twin Peaks but rejected 30 Somthing and Cheers.


224 posted on 12/04/2004 2:01:04 AM PST by weegee (WE FOUGHT ZOGBYISM November 2, 2004 - 60 Million Voters versus 60 Minutes - BUSH WINS!!!)
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To: sully777
At a fitful moment of extreme stress I yell
*Serenity Now!*
I have to disagree with one poster when it is assumed that all characters are Jewish in character traits, including George's parents. I lived next to two Italian families that made the Costanza family look like a mild Amish clan. These people would fight and they yelled at the top of their lungs inside the house. One time, the one Italian father had a yelling match with the next door German neighbor outside. One guy yelling at another guy, back and forth, from their door ways. It got ugly when the Italian guy's wife (very fat woman) jumped out the door and ran over to the other house, threatening bodily harm. All were drunk as skunks.

Now THAT'S funny!
225 posted on 12/04/2004 2:04:20 AM PST by olde north church (I'm back, back in the F R groove, back in the F R groove)
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To: Terpfen

The whole running gag is that Jerry and George date all of these beautiful women every week and then the next episode they are with someone else. Not necessarily a "step up", just following the protocol that no character is "better off" at the end than in any other week.

How many times in the Donald Duck comics (Carl Barks') did Donald and his nephews find some awesome treasure? Uncle Scrooge got it in the end (financing their trip, etc.) because all that wealth was never noticed among his riches.

Even if a single character ends up ON TOP, something always turns where if offsets the gain (or conversely their loss is regained).


226 posted on 12/04/2004 2:05:23 AM PST by weegee (WE FOUGHT ZOGBYISM November 2, 2004 - 60 Million Voters versus 60 Minutes - BUSH WINS!!!)
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To: weegee

Dang I guess we did... Was it really on that long ago! LOL I guess I'm getting old! I never really watched it when it was on prime time. The re-runs are hysterical though. Didn't get into Twin Peaks either. My friends and I were into General Hospital and L.A. Law! Oh yeah and SNL when it was still funny! (o;


227 posted on 12/04/2004 2:06:13 AM PST by LibertyRocks
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To: olde north church

When I lived in Boston, it was the only time I saw people yelling from apartment window to apartment window.


228 posted on 12/04/2004 2:06:33 AM PST by weegee (WE FOUGHT ZOGBYISM November 2, 2004 - 60 Million Voters versus 60 Minutes - BUSH WINS!!!)
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To: Radioactive
Get away from TV and read a good self improvement book and you will see a major difference in your life.
Is that not an oxymoron?
229 posted on 12/04/2004 2:11:15 AM PST by olde north church (I'm back, back in the F R groove, back in the F R groove)
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To: LibertyRocks

I have to admit to losing track of Twin Peaks in the later seasons (although I may have them on tape).

Best memory was going to a friend's to watch them. We tried to go to his neighbor's to watch, she was a second generation Swedish stewardess (I AM NOT MAKING THIS UP!). She and a girl friend were drunk on wine writing poetry for a college class. I shant go farther (and there really isn't more to discuss, in polite company or otherwise), but THAT is a shared experience watching television.

We were met at the door but sent down the hall, somewhat rejected for awhile. I do know that we were let in the apartment at some point, and I do recall that they answered the door one wrapped in a towel and the other in an upside down leather coat.

This is so little "event" tv on these days (Sopranos I guess, but I never watched it).


230 posted on 12/04/2004 2:11:52 AM PST by weegee (WE FOUGHT ZOGBYISM November 2, 2004 - 60 Million Voters versus 60 Minutes - BUSH WINS!!!)
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To: Bush gal in LA

maybe the selfish behavior expressed by the characters is just Larry writing from experience?


231 posted on 12/04/2004 2:12:50 AM PST by weegee (WE FOUGHT ZOGBYISM November 2, 2004 - 60 Million Voters versus 60 Minutes - BUSH WINS!!!)
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To: shubi
"To have people who are so superficial, so extremely self-seeking is cynically funny."

That's an excellent way to put it. I've tried to figure it out exactly; it's very clear that if, in real life, if I knew anyone like any of the characters I'd probably not be friends with them, they're despicable, but on the other hand being a human I have a little bit of all the characters in me.

I never figured out why that was funny, but I did think it was.

I would also observe that it was often a great satire of politically correctness. I remember especially "not that there's anything wrong with that" episode when it was clear that the characters did indeed know there was something wrong with that.

232 posted on 12/04/2004 2:15:08 AM PST by Proud_texan
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To: nickcarraway

Well Jerry is married now with a couple daughters.

For awhile his character was dating Elaine.

The whole "tv writers" season was somewhat of a dud because it put too much continuity into the plotline.

Then again, it wasn't until I listened to a lot of mp3s of old radio that I realized how long some of the storylines ran (6 episodes+) on Burns & Allen.


233 posted on 12/04/2004 2:16:09 AM PST by weegee (WE FOUGHT ZOGBYISM November 2, 2004 - 60 Million Voters versus 60 Minutes - BUSH WINS!!!)
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To: Proud_texan

Kramer ran in the AIDS walk but refused to wear the red ribbon. When pressured to wear it, he called them a RIBBON BULLY. They still kicked his ass for resisting the group think.


234 posted on 12/04/2004 2:17:49 AM PST by weegee (WE FOUGHT ZOGBYISM November 2, 2004 - 60 Million Voters versus 60 Minutes - BUSH WINS!!!)
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To: weegee

Haha, yeah, I'd forgotten the ribbon bully bit. Lots of PC satire there, not as blunt as, say, South Park, but I was always surprised, especially given that Larry David is such a flaming liberal.


235 posted on 12/04/2004 2:25:07 AM PST by Proud_texan
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To: valleygal
I think Jerry was hiding something. He would always go dates with these beautiful women, but never for more than a few days at a time.
Remember when George starts dating the girl that looks like Jerry (female Jerry), played by Tracy Nelson, Ricky's daughter?

Well, he is single, thin and neat...not that there's anything wrong with that.
One time we were hanging out looking in my brother's yearbook. A friend of mine was going on and on and on and on and on about how "hot this chick was" (chick?, no, my friend was not Greg Brady). I couldn't stand it anymore. Saith I, "I think she looks just like (classmate's name)."
My friend looked at the photo one more time and said, "You ruined her for me".
236 posted on 12/04/2004 2:30:09 AM PST by olde north church (I'm back, back in the F R groove, back in the F R groove)
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To: weegee
Can't make something like that up! (o:

Best shared memory watching T.V. I have is with my neighbor. He and I used to race home from kindergarten to watch the Cubs (Dave Kingman, Billy Buckner and Jack Brickhouse announcing...) Then we'd play tennis ball baseball till our mothers called us in.

Somehow it doesn't quite compare with your story though! I'll bet watching T.V. with the Swedish girls was a lot more fun than watching grown men scratch! LOL (o;

I haven't seen a good show on T.V. in a long time... What happened to all the writers? Seems like everything is either news, or reality T.V. Used to watch E.R. but not for years now.
237 posted on 12/04/2004 2:40:59 AM PST by LibertyRocks
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To: Proud_texan
I would also observe that it was often a great satire of politically correctness. I remember especially "not that there's anything wrong with that" episode when it was clear that the characters did indeed know there was something wrong with that.

That episode was a classic. The politically correct don't realize how funny the red state masses see them. If you have to tip toe around an issue like homosexuality, it is a dead give away it is probably not moral in some way. The whole Hollywood elitist culture the Democrats have attached to is highly narcissistic and very sick psychologically speaking.
238 posted on 12/04/2004 2:48:22 AM PST by shubi (Peace through superior firepower.)
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To: Hank Rearden; valleygal
Now this is interesting.

I was, upon first glance, prepared to say that both of you were wrong. I always thought her surname was Nogoodnik. But before posting, I did a little research (unusual for me, neh?) and found that 'Fatale' is indeed the correct answer.
It's interesting to me because I have never heard her last name to be Fatale. I would have sworn it was Nogoodnik. This is what I had heard with my own ears on many occasions while watching 'Moose and Squirrel'.

Sooo...kudos to you both. Hank, you were indeed the first to ring in so...you have the board, please select a category.     =;^D

239 posted on 12/04/2004 4:29:38 AM PST by Bloody Sam Roberts (All I ask from livin' is to have no chains on me. All I ask from dyin' is to go naturally.)
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To: sandyeggo
Did you know that the first three years of episodes have just been released on DVD?

The Mrs. and I just rented the third season DVD. What a hoot. They're even better without commercials.

"I've got hand baby!"

240 posted on 12/04/2004 4:32:35 AM PST by Bloody Sam Roberts (All I ask from livin' is to have no chains on me. All I ask from dyin' is to go naturally.)
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