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Having the STATE involved with education is one of the planks of the communist manifesto. No wonder every year the STATE run government fool school system cranks out more and more morons.

The public foolschool system has been getting worst and worst every year since the '60's

1 posted on 12/04/2004 6:55:55 AM PST by Mikey
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To: Mikey

At least let's de-unionize the public schools.

Why are our children going to a place 5 days a week that is overwhelmingly voting for the Leftist on the ticket?


2 posted on 12/04/2004 6:58:38 AM PST by OwnershipSociety
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There's nothing wrong with having the government support education per se. The writings of the Founders show they considered this entirely appropriate and desirable. We don't need to get government out of the education business, we need to get them out of the indoctrination and social engineering business.


3 posted on 12/04/2004 7:00:23 AM PST by tacticalogic ("Oh bother!" said Pooh, as he chambered his last round.)
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To: Mikey

I agree. We should privatize education, yet we should make it available to either

a) lower rates to help out those less fortunate, so that the generation of children can do better then those of their elders

or

b) have financial aid to help the less fortunate.


4 posted on 12/04/2004 7:00:43 AM PST by SeanQuinn
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To: Mikey

Wouldn't you want to fix the problem instead of giving up on it.

Personally, I think the school system's problems are created by parents not getting involved in their children's education. If the parents don't care about their children's education in school, I don't think they will take the efforts with their education at home.


5 posted on 12/04/2004 7:02:23 AM PST by Fishing-guy
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To: Mikey

Congressional Record--Appendix, pp. A34-A35 January 10, 1963 Current Communist Goals EXTENSION OF REMARKS OF HON. A. S. HERLONG, JR. OF FLORIDA IN THE HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES Thursday, January 10, 1963 Mr. HERLONG. Mr. Speaker, Mrs. Patricia Nordman of De Land, Fla., is an ardent and articulate opponent of communism, and until recently published the De Land Courier, which she dedicated to the purpose of alerting the public to the dangers of communism in America. At Mrs. Nordman's request, I include in the RECORD, under unanimous consent, the following "Current Communist Goals," which she identifies as an excerpt from "The Naked Communist," by Cleon Skousen: [From "The Naked Communist," by Cleon Skousen]

CURRENT COMMUNIST GOALS



17. Get control of the schools. Use them as transmission belts for socialism and current Communist propaganda. Soften the curriculum. Get control of teachers' associations. Put the party line in textbooks.


6 posted on 12/04/2004 7:03:14 AM PST by Free_at_last_-2001 (is clinton in jail yet?)
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To: Mikey
WOW! This would have been an awesome event to attend.

WHEN IT COMES TO SCHOOL, THERE'S NO PLACE LIKE HOME!
7 posted on 12/04/2004 7:04:51 AM PST by bearsgirl90
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To: Mikey

"The public foolschool system has been getting worst and worst every year since the '60's"

... Indeed


8 posted on 12/04/2004 7:05:24 AM PST by Dustin Hawkins (Friends Dont let Friends Date Democrats www.dustinmhawkins.com)
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To: Mikey

bttt


11 posted on 12/04/2004 7:28:08 AM PST by blackeagle
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To: Mikey
The public foolschool system has been getting worst and worst every year since the '60's

I take it you attended public school after the 1960's?

12 posted on 12/04/2004 7:43:07 AM PST by whd23
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Well, at least the little darlings can get an abortion without parental consent, but god forbid the school nurse give them an aspirin.

The entire thing is insane.

13 posted on 12/04/2004 8:00:14 AM PST by Reactionary
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To: Mikey

The first step: end compulsory attendance laws.


25 posted on 12/04/2004 12:03:57 PM PST by secretagent
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To: Mikey
Yes Mikey... you are absolutely correct but we have other evils lurking in the shadows as well. No place in the Constitution will you find authority for government to spend public tax dollars on a public school system. Nor is it possible to equate 'weights & measures' to those so-called free handouts from government.

Congress Critters like Senator Robert Byrd of West Virginia (an illegal state) have turned the national treasury into public handouts in order to remain in office. And the citizens love and bask in it …while tossing their freedoms in a trash can.

The only way to justify a ‘public school system' is via the... "for the common good clause". That clause is so vague that government could funnel tax dollars towards private flower gardens, gas stations and grocery stores should it wish to do so.

Government DID NOT recognize or support a public school system from the signing of our Constitution… until 1817 - the founding of the New York Free School Society which later became the Public School Society of New York. Somewhere along the line our government has been high jacked.

In 1920 elected congressmen, who were all members of the Southern Jurisdiction of Scottish Rite Freemasonry, were able to convince the President of the United States to establish the cabinet level "Department of Education". The Secretary of Education was of course a freemason. To this day Freemasonry takes sole credit for passage of the "Smith-Tower Education Bill" which was the beginning of giving Federal Aid to Public Schools (Albert G. Mackey, Mackey's Revised Encyclopedia of Freemasonry, Vols 2, page 817).

During the Second Great Awaking... America was a Bible-Believing Christian Nation. People wanted their children to have a Christian education based on Christian Faith and Precepts of the Holy Scripture, primarily the Ten Commandments (John Daniel ”Scarlet and the Beast”).

In 1857 Scottish Rite Freemasonry took control of education in America by founding the National Education Association (NEA). NEA has controlled public education since that date. And thanks to NEA the Constitution of the United States is little more than a footnote in the classroom. My experience in working for a southern state teachers union leads me to believe that less than a small fraction of public school educators know the history of the field they work in.

Yes, other organizations played major roles in corruption of our public school system. The Progressive Education Association and John Dewey Association were founded in the 1930s to “Socialize America” with Socialist/Marxist educators known as “frontier thinkers”. Yes you are correct the communist manifesto clearly defines the take over of a nation's education system as a means to control that nation.

All who have ever attended public school are familiar with Scholastic Magazine. Between the late 1920s and mid 1930s Scholastic Magazine featured articles written by known Communists such as Langston Hughes and Harold Rugg. Rugg also authored numerous other communist articles. (District of Colombia Appropriation Bill for 1937, Subcommittee of House Committee on Appropriations, 74th Congress, 2nd Session, 1936, pp. 709-710, as recorded in Blackboard Power; NEA Threat to America, p.26).

In order to correct what is wrong with public education we will have to totally dismantle the entire system and start over. We would have to fire the "highly qualifed" with all the other lesser qualified teachers. I fear we will simply have to to learn to live with what we have simply because too many educators have lives and careers invested in a failed education system but which is very beneficial as a 'jobs program'.

30 posted on 12/04/2004 6:05:46 PM PST by Luke (a former teacher union employee who could not support intellectual dishonesty)
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To: Paridel

ping


35 posted on 12/05/2004 4:03:13 AM PST by June Cleaver (in here, Ward . . .)
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