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Shocking Questions: Yes, There Are Answers (Warning: graphic sexual content)
BreakPoint with Chuck Colson ^ | December 3, 2004 | Chuck Colson

Posted on 12/04/2004 5:17:59 PM PST by Mr. Silverback

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To: MissAmericanPie

That was a great story. I, too, have some wonderful homosexual friends. Many are extremely intelligent and talented.

I happen to think this is something hard-wired in the brain, something people are born with. The people I know sort of grew into it during puberty; it wasn't a conscious choice. I don't think we should punish people for pursuing happiness with other willing adults.


181 posted on 12/05/2004 9:18:25 PM PST by Jew4GWB (Never give in--never, never, never, never, in nothing great or small, large or petty, never give in.)
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To: Mr. Silverback

I remember once watching a TV episode of Fulton Sheen's "Life is Worth Living". It had to be from the late Fifties or early Sixties.

Anyway, in this episode, Bishop Sheen talks about the role of the mother and the father in helping children understand who God is. He says that the father helps the child to comprehend the omnipotence and justice of God, and the mother helps a child to understand the love and the mercy of God.

I can see this in my four year old. Daddy knows everything. Daddy can fix anything. Daddy is also the one who gets mad if you've been bad. On the other hand, mommy is the one you go to if you're sorry and want to be forgiven. Mommy is also the one you go to if you want to be held.

I think of this Fulton Sheen comment when I hear people say that there's nothing wrong with homosexual couples adopting children.


182 posted on 12/05/2004 9:21:47 PM PST by guinnessman
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To: Awestruck
Remember when you were little and you asked your parents why something was so and they said, "Because I said so"... the same applies to the Bible.. I don't question the Lord's wisdom, I just accept it.

On the other hand...

When doubts arise, you could earnestly and honestly asked the Lord your questions and trust that he will guide you to answers that will alleviate your doubts and strengthen your faith.

183 posted on 12/05/2004 9:25:20 PM PST by delacoert (imperat animus corpori, et paretur statim: imperat animus sibi, et resistitur. -AUGUSTINI)
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To: Mr. Silverback

You sounded like the typical leftist apologist.

Sorry if I misjudged your motive.


184 posted on 12/05/2004 9:41:06 PM PST by nmh (Intelligent people recognize Intelligent Design (God).)
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To: nmh

No sweat.


185 posted on 12/05/2004 9:50:37 PM PST by Mr. Silverback (A Freelance Business Writer looking for business.)
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To: Mr. Silverback

he was wrong to compare us to terrorist "religions"... we are hardly that..


186 posted on 12/06/2004 1:02:02 AM PST by Awestruck (The artist formerly known as Goodie D)
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To: Mr. Silverback
"Not by this boy. I know the Bible is true because of many proofs, the Resurrection being the most important. The Resurrection is a real historical event, and the rest of the Bible hangs on it."

You faith is admirable but it is faith, not knowledge. If it was knowledge based upon pictures or video or actual verifiable artifacts it wouldn't be faith. It would be knowledge and would have far less value. Humility, which most religions teach, is the basis for accepting something greater than what you can know without proof. It is necessary for faith.

187 posted on 12/06/2004 2:36:54 AM PST by muir_redwoods
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To: Mr. Silverback
>> Oh, I wouldn't say that. Reproduction is more of a surface drive with them than with us. They may not do it for pure pleasure, but when some female dog is in heat, they male dogs sniffing around her house aren't thinking, "I can't wait to show my dominance!"<<

No, no, no. Not the need to reproduce, the act of homosexual behavior in the wild is an act of dominance. When the Alpha male of a pack mounts a subordinate male, it is dominance, not an actual sexual act.
Some monkey groups have sex many times a day. Most of it is to show where that individual is in the order of that group.
188 posted on 12/06/2004 6:27:58 AM PST by netmilsmom (Zell on DEM Christianity, "They can hum the tune, but can't sing the song.")
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To: Mr. Silverback
Do you consider a man "Making Love" to another man's anus as 'right'?

Are you not educated as to the nasty, disgusting habits of homosexual men, including the act of 'fisting' and 'rimming'?

There is something basically abnormal about thinking the orifice you excrete feces is an object of sexual desire and affection.

...don't ya think?

189 posted on 12/06/2004 6:39:48 AM PST by TexasCajun
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To: Jew4GWB

Persuing happiness with another adult is none of my business, but many, certainly not all, are off base when they want to take it into public.

Just because the arugment is made that a certain behaviour is observed in the animal world certainly doesn't mean society should accept folks relieveing themselves on every potted plant at the mall as natural human behaviour also.

If someone chooses behaviour outside the norm of civil society that's their choice, civil and social society certainly has to right to say, "not in my face you don't".


190 posted on 12/06/2004 9:10:10 AM PST by MissAmericanPie
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To: TexasCajun

Well, except for the graphic language (I'll keep that handy to use as an appetite suppressant) that is part of the answer he gave her. He made it clear that the physical aspect alone is enough to make it obvious.


191 posted on 12/06/2004 12:08:21 PM PST by Mr. Silverback (A Freelance Business Writer looking for business.)
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To: muir_redwoods
You faith is admirable but it is faith, not knowledge. If it was knowledge based upon pictures or video or actual verifiable artifacts it wouldn't be faith. It would be knowledge and would have far less value. Humility, which most religions teach, is the basis for accepting something greater than what you can know without proof. It is necessary for faith.

Actually, I wrote what I did about the Resurrection because it is as well-established historically as the existence of Julius Caesar. See Josh MCDowell's "More Than a Carpenter" for details.

And that knowledge, that the event certainly happened, is not of any less value than faith.

192 posted on 12/06/2004 12:51:30 PM PST by Mr. Silverback (A Freelance Business Writer looking for business.)
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To: Mr. Silverback

OK You must be right!!!


193 posted on 12/06/2004 3:03:00 PM PST by muir_redwoods
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To: muir_redwoods
OK You must be right!!!

Thank you for acknowledging that. So few do. ;-)

Seriously though, I recommend that book. If nothing else, it will give you new insight on how Christians view the Resurrection.

194 posted on 12/06/2004 5:46:43 PM PST by Mr. Silverback (A Freelance Business Writer looking for business.)
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