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Rocking For Christ
cbs ^ | 12-7-04

Posted on 12/07/2004 12:06:09 PM PST by LouAvul

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What's weird about this thread is the supposedly Christian folks who mock and scorn those who are of the opinion that rock music isn't so great.


841 posted on 12/09/2004 11:53:36 PM PST by k2blader (It is neither compassionate nor conservative to support the expansion of socialism.)
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To: banjo joe

yup, He sure did. That's why I'm not saying it's not a real message. Because it is! :)


842 posted on 12/10/2004 5:08:56 AM PST by melbell (groovy)
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To: PleaseNoMore
I understand your story, and I understand what you are saying. And let me say for the record.... I'm not opposed to christian rock. IN FACT... I play it as a musician.

I am opposed to churches modeling themselves after the world. You can't find a place in the bible where the churches were taught to conform to the world. The "gathering of the saints" was intended to edify the believer. It was never intended to be a show or performance designed to reach the lost. That's what we've turned it into. The guy that witnessed to the prostitude did a wonderful thing. But it's a different thing than making a worship service full of believers an event pointed at the lost.

The church (we believers) are to reach the lost. We're suppose to go into the world and preach the gospel.... just as the man in your story did. But the church was also designed with the intent of meeting to build each other up. That's an important factor as well. So when you have a church (such as mine) where a handful of staff members is not ministering to a congregation, you have a fundamental problem. And this argument that "we have to do it this way or the church will just die on the vine because nobody will be reached" is simply a falsehood.

There is nobody in hell because you and I weren't creative enough to reach them. You can't find a single biblical place that teaches that.

843 posted on 12/10/2004 6:30:11 AM PST by kjam22 (What you win them by, is what you win them to)
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To: kjam22
I agree that the church shouldn't conform to the world. Not at all.
844 posted on 12/10/2004 6:54:33 AM PST by PleaseNoMore
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To: RobRoy

"God rocks"

He most certainly does. And He is most certainly Awesome. He continually finds new ways to reach His children, and rock music is one of them. Who said worshipping the Almighty Lord can't be fun? In fact, He demands that we enjoy it, with all our heart.


845 posted on 12/10/2004 7:44:47 AM PST by balk
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To: openotherend
Thank you for sharing your experiences in music. It's very encouraging. All people must be reached.

Here is my post in reply to a similar issue last week.

FR Post: "God's work through worship"

846 posted on 12/10/2004 7:56:49 AM PST by balk
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To: banjo joe

You mean the Apostle's commission?


847 posted on 12/10/2004 8:05:35 AM PST by Hardshell
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To: Texas2step

Look at the truth in this song. How many people do we know who live this way and are on this path? How sad it is:

AC/DC
Highway To Hell (1979)

Living easy, living free
Season ticket on a one-way ride
Asking nothing, leave me be
Taking everything in my stride
Don't need reason, don't need rhyme
Ain't nothing I would rather do
Going down, party time
My friends are gonna be there too

I'm on the highway to hell

No stop signs, speed limit
Nobody's gonna slow me down
Like a wheel, gonna spin it
Nobody's gonna mess me round
Hey Satan, payin' my dues
Playing in a rocking band
Hey Momma, look at me
I'm on my way to the promised land

I'm on the highway to hell
(Don't stop me)

And I'm going down, all the way down
I'm on the highway to hell


848 posted on 12/10/2004 8:22:05 AM PST by balk
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To: Hardshell
He doesn't depend on these head banging idiots and their half baked arminianism to do!

Matthew 5:22 cautions us against calling brothers and sisters "idiots".
849 posted on 12/10/2004 9:59:04 AM PST by MP5SD
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To: banjo joe
What about our Commission?

BINGO!

Peter was angry with Paul for eating with the gentiles, angry about the appearance, the lack of separation. But he was forgetting the Commission.

850 posted on 12/10/2004 11:29:43 AM PST by CyberCowboy777 (Zip it Hippie! - http://www.casualconservative.com/)
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To: CyberCowboy777

Peter was angry with Paul? This particular dispute involved evangelization? Thanks for exemplifying the "contemporary" grasp of Scripture.


851 posted on 12/10/2004 12:20:17 PM PST by Zechariah11
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To: Zechariah11
Yes. Peter and James angry (upset, in passionate disagreement) with Paul, and Paul them.

Paul was moving towards a less Jewish presentation to better evangelize the gentiles.

Debate occurred over eating with (like) the gentiles and over circumcision.

Peter acted out of a fear of the circumcision sect and the others followed in a desire not to offend, either the Judaizers or Peter. Peter, as well as those who followed him in his capitulation to the circumcisers, was guilty of acting as “men-pleasers.”
852 posted on 12/10/2004 1:17:13 PM PST by CyberCowboy777 (Zip it Hippie! - http://www.casualconservative.com/)
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To: CyberCowboy777
Yes. Peter and James angry (upset, in passionate disagreement) with Paul, and Paul them.

That is simply not accurate.

Read Acts 15 (especially verse 11) the case is just the opposite. Peter and James are championing the position of Paul.

At the Antioch "showdown", the apostles included only Peter, Paul, Barnabas ( not James). Peter's actions early in the evening (and his recent pro-Pauline stance at Jerusalem) indicate that he was in full agreement with Paul's approach to Christian liberty. Later that evening, however, Paul had to admonish Peter for hypocrisy/cowardice. This was before a mixed group of believers.

Finally, Acts 21:20 show that Paul was greeted as a genuine hero by the Jerusalem Church towards the end of his ministry.

It is true that Paul was hounded by Judaisers throughout his ministry but these were not authorized from James or Peter.

853 posted on 12/10/2004 4:44:14 PM PST by Zechariah11
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