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Fetal Frontier (suggestion that women show even token concern for aborted fetus outrages feminists)
Village Voice ^ | December 7th, 2004 10:45 AM | Sharon Lerner

Posted on 12/07/2004 1:04:39 PM PST by dead

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1 posted on 12/07/2004 1:04:40 PM PST by dead
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To: dead

I hate the idea of an organization such as Catholics for a Free Choice

Ya you have a free choice, go become an Unitarian and leave the Church alone.


2 posted on 12/07/2004 1:05:57 PM PST by escapefromboston (manny ortez: mvp)
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To: dead

What ever this article says, she is already responsible for the murder of countless babies through her actions. May God have mercy on her soul.


3 posted on 12/07/2004 1:08:47 PM PST by frog_jerk_2004
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To: dead

Bump. It's amazing to watch the contortions these people put themselves through to continue defending what they know is wrong.


4 posted on 12/07/2004 1:10:31 PM PST by T. Buzzard Trueblood ("Hell, I don't want to meet them sons of bitches." Elvis Presley on the Beatles)
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To: dead; All
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/921369/posts
Bringing Good Things to Life (ULTRASOUND)
Citizen magazine ^ | June 2003 | Karla Dial
This is the Stealth Bomber that is going to zoom in under the pro-death crowd's radar and nuke them... once a woman sees what is really in her womb, it ceases to be a "tissue mass" and becomes... a baby.
 Her baby.
 

5 posted on 12/07/2004 1:15:10 PM PST by backhoe (-30-)
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To: dead

It's kind of a shame her parents didn't have the same feelings about abortion when her mother got pregnant with her. What a waste of skin and $3 worth of chemicals.


6 posted on 12/07/2004 1:15:37 PM PST by stm
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To: dead

I posted Kissling's article here:

http://freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1295713/posts

I see Kissling's stand as evidence of some inroads made by pro-Life over the last decade or so. Although she and her organization would never change course 180 degrees, we can see them at least lilting to the right slightly. It's an interesting read considering the source.

Of course pro-Abortion people are going to have coniption fits at the mere suggestion that the fetus "may" have some value and that the discussion should at least advance .... most are absolutists.


7 posted on 12/07/2004 1:16:07 PM PST by Lorianne
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To: dead

I posted Kissling's article here:

http://freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1295713/posts

I see Kissling's stand as evidence of some inroads made by pro-Life over the last decade or so. Although she and her organization would never change course 180 degrees, we can see them at least lilting to the right slightly. It's an interesting read considering the source.

Of course pro-Abortion people are going to have coniption fits at the mere suggestion that the fetus "may" have some value and that the discussion should at least advance .... most are absolutists.


8 posted on 12/07/2004 1:16:31 PM PST by Lorianne
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To: dead
I'm glad to see that this vile Nazi is being forced to admit, at least in part, that she is wrong on the facts.

But she's negotiating - she's willing to give up drinking the blood of children over 20 weeks in exchange for guarantees that she can kill 19 week olds.

We have to keep fighting these devils.

9 posted on 12/07/2004 1:18:30 PM PST by wideawake (God bless our brave soldiers and their Commander in Chief)
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To: T. Buzzard Trueblood
Rather, Richards's colleagues and letter writers to the Times Magazine seemed uncomfortable with the way that she, a pro-choice activist, talked about paring down her fetal load. Richards openly expressed her concerns that having three babies would send her into a spiral of downward mobility. And when she found out she was pregnant with three, she asked her doctor bluntly, "Is it possible to get rid of one of them? Or two of them?"

Wow...my sister has four children...and that boggles my mind because I have trouble keeping up with the needs of my own, smaller family...But I could not honestly say, once they were here in our lives, that "this one or that one" is the one we could have done without. Paring down her fetal load? Wow...So, when she is annoyed with the children she didn't kill, I wonder if she ever says to them, "I wish I had aborted YOU!"

10 posted on 12/07/2004 1:18:42 PM PST by lsee
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To: dead
Others take issue with the idea that the pro-choice movement should "present abortion as a complex issue that involves loss—and to be saddened by that loss," as Kissling suggests in her piece. "I don't hear her saying that there's joy sometimes," says Smeal. "I think if an 11-year-old is pregnant, it's a great relief for her to have an abortion. I happen to think it's a moral good to allow people to decide when they give birth."

Evil.

There's just no other word for it.

11 posted on 12/07/2004 1:20:07 PM PST by The Iguana
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To: Lorianne

I once talked to a sales rep at a Boston based manufacturer of ultrasound equipment. He said that PP buys the lowest quality US stations. They tend not to show details like fingers and toes. Too humanizing. Wonder what models they buy now.


12 posted on 12/07/2004 1:20:30 PM PST by massgopguy (massgopguy)
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To: escapefromboston

>"With the bill requiring doctors to warn about fetal pain and offer fetal anesthesia coming down the pike, Kissling sees another opportunity to show that people can support the right to abortion and care about the fetus at the same time. The standard approach for pro-choicers would be simply to shoot down the bill. But since there's the real possibility that fetuses feel pain (there's no scientific consensus on it yet), Kissling suggests instead trying to change the legislation to say that fetal anesthesia should be respectfully offered as an option.
It's a way, she says, of honoring both law and morality. "


She really strikes me as a kind, sensitive woman. How truly compassionate of her to support offering anaesthesia to the baby before they butcher it. This article and this woman makes me want to puke.


13 posted on 12/07/2004 1:21:53 PM PST by diane in IL
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To: dead
I remember very well how emotional the moment was when I saw the heartbeat of my first on the ultrasound. Today she is a happy, vibrant three year old.

How anyone could look at that image of a beating heart and want to stop it is simply incomprehensible evil to me.

14 posted on 12/07/2004 1:25:01 PM PST by hopespringseternal
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To: dead
"We have to put the dying and suffering of women who don't have access to safe abortion onto the table

They are on the table.

15 posted on 12/07/2004 1:28:10 PM PST by Raycpa (Alias, VRWC_minion,)
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To: dead
"If and when those who dominate anti-abortion politics could for a minute take seriously the rights to a decent life and health of born children," she wrote, "maybe then we could start to talk about advancing respect for fetal life, early or late."

Oh, here we go again, the same old tired canard that "pro-life" people "don't care about babies after they're born." Even if this accusation were valid (which it isn't) how does that justify "therefore it's OK to kill them"?

All this proves is that pro-aborts mouth these sound bites without having the faintest idea of what they're actually saying.

16 posted on 12/07/2004 1:28:41 PM PST by Alouette ("Fundamentalist Islam" -- not "fun" just "demented"...)
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To: backhoe

"Ultrasound... This is the Stealth Bomber that is going to zoom in under the pro-death crowd's radar and nuke them... once a woman sees what is really in her womb, it ceases to be a "tissue mass" and becomes... a baby."

This is such a good point. There is a Pro-life website that has a link to video footage of an ultrasound of a fetus as it is being aborted. I still lose sleep over that video. It absolutely turned me from someone who never really had an opinion on the issue either way to someone who is adamantly pro-life.


17 posted on 12/07/2004 1:29:26 PM PST by diane in IL
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To: dead
"We have to put the dying and suffering of women who don't have access to safe abortion onto the table."

"...the dying and suffering of women who don't have access to safe abortion..." is a myth. The only way pro-abortion monsters can try to justify an abominable horror is to equate it in their minds to the preservation of the life of the mother. In the overwhelming majority of abortion cases, this is just. not. true. Abortion is used, by and large, as a gruesome method of birth control for those too ignorant, careless or wanton in their personal lives. It is a despicable attempt to abdicate responsibility for their sexual practices.

18 posted on 12/07/2004 1:31:43 PM PST by TChris (You keep using that word. I don't think it means what yHello, I'm a TAGLINE vir)
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To: T. Buzzard Trueblood

Justification of wrong acts at any cost. It is quite amazing.


19 posted on 12/07/2004 1:34:53 PM PST by ThisLittleLightofMine
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To: T. Buzzard Trueblood
It's amazing to watch the contortions these people put themselves through to continue defending what they know is wrong.

Yes it is. The glaring duplicity of saying, on the one hand, that a fetus is just a "mass of cells", and that the removal of that "mass of cells" is no more serious than having your gall bladder removed, when compared to the frequent discussion, even among abortion proponents, that it's a "serious decision" to have an abortion is astonishing. If it's just a "mass of cells", why is it such a "serious decision" to have it removed? If it's a "serious decision", then it probably isn't just a "mass of cells", is it?

20 posted on 12/07/2004 1:37:39 PM PST by TChris (You keep using that word. I don't think it means what yHello, I'm a TAGLINE vir)
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