Posted on 12/07/2004 7:28:32 PM PST by naturalman1975
Both atheists and Muslims are absolutely anti-Christmas and anti-Christian. Read more here.
There is a whole bunch of child sex slaves...Christian children in the Sudan...raped and tortured and murdered for not denying their Christian faith and swearing oaths to Islam
that might disagree with you....
Sorry Waleed, I'm not buying it..we had no problem with Christmas in our town grade school (along with a nice menorah for the Jewish students) and everyone was happy, no complaints, not even from aetheists. It wasn't until the influx of muslims into our community combined with post-9/11 hypersensitivity that we have had to cut out Christmas songs and include Ramadan in the "Winter Concert". This is bullsh-t spin and it don't fly.
I think it means kiss your infidel ass goodbye.
Technically, I'm an atheist, and I know other atheists, too. We all celebrate Christmas complete with trees, lights, gifts, and so on, and maybe even mass (though we're there more as tourists than anything else). Many are married to believers and sit in church with their wives or husbands every Sunday (though they probably wish they didn't have to). Atheist organizations have a hard time getting us all to join.
Stop putting us in the same category with terrorists. We're not the ones slamming planes into buildings or putting Christians in prison in the Middle East. We're also usually not the ones bringing lawsuits (though it may seem otherwise). Many lawsuits against gov't-funded religious displays etc. have been brought by Mormons, Catholics, and Jews.
"Muslims are absolutely anti-Christmas"
The author is muslim. He ought to know if he finds Christmas offensive. And he doesn't.
This atheist or near atheist is not anti-Christian. I think the religion is a huge net plus on this planet. One size does not fit all. Broad brush stokes typically generate more heat than light.
"..we had no problem with Christmas in our town grade school ....until the influx of muslims into our community combined with post-9/11 hypersensitivity that we have had to cut out Christmas songs ..."
Ever think maybe it's the PC Left that's causing the problems? That's what the author and Sydney Lord Mayor Clover Moore are trying to point out.
Fancy meeting you here. :) I have always enjoyed and participated in, the pagan aspects of the Christmas holiday.
And Muslims never lie. And don't forget that Islam is a religion of peace! Fnord.
So, your assumption is that he's a liar, because he's muslim.... Is that your assumption about all muslims?
The pc left has aligned itself directly with radical islam. The distinctions between the two groups have been decidedly blurred over the past few years, and they share many similar objectives. And though this man is a muslim, that does not mean he speaks for all muslims. Sorry, this dog just doesn't bark and the whole article smacks of a smokescreen. I don't trust it, and I don't trust the author's motives.
My wild guess is that Islam is more favorable to Christ than to Christians. Christ was the wise man precusor to the even more perfect vision of Mohammed, and Christ's followers have a character flaw in not embracing the more perfect vision.
The Koran has verses that support lying to infidels, (no, I don't have the passages) and that view has been endorsed by mullahs of radical islam around the world. Yes, they lie. And yes, it is part of their religion as interpreted by their own religious leaders.
"My wild guess is that Islam is more favorable to Christ than to Christians."
Of course. People here seem to be missing that distinction.
That's the point that trying to be made.
"that view has been endorsed by mullahs of radical islam around the world."
So, you just assume that the author is some sort of radical and liar because he's muslim?
Put it this way. I view him with a jaundiced eye. Because of the practice called "Taqiyyah". It means that a Muslim will never be truthful to the law enforcement or anyone when such truth will convict a fellow Muslim. Taqiyyah is practiced extensively my Islamists at all levels. Simply they will lie to a non-Muslim."Muhammad said "War is deceit"
Qur’an 66:1 “Allah has already sanctioned for you the dissolution of your vows.”
Bukhari:V4B52N268 “Allah’s Apostle said, ‘War is deceit.’”
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