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To: Pharmboy
Yest, this has been battered around on FR for a long time. In fact, I think I was the first to bring it up and posted extensively on it as I have researched this for a long time.

It's just one of those things that anybody can believe anything they want about it.

But one thing is certain. Flags denote jurisdiction.

The Title IV, USC 1 flag (described in E.O. 10834) is the official flag of our country. It is the civilian flag and has very precise specifications based on ratios relative to hoist and fly.

Military and federal flags are based on size, not ratios, and may or may not have fringe, depending on their use.

Chances are that you will never see the civilian flag with the 1 to 1.9 ratio in a courtroom, for as noted in the article, most, if not all of our courts are under admiralty jurisdiction and the flags used therein are based on SIZE, not RATIO.

I don't know why that is so hard for anyone to understand. Even the flag manufacturers don't get it, for none of them manufacture a flag based on the E.O. 10834 ratios.

I think the objections to the fringed flag in school rooms and other municipal places are made because some feel the schools should be under the jurisdiction of the state, not the federal government. The same objections, of course, hold for the state and municipal courts as well as other state and municipal buildings.

How silly to think the federal government has assumed state and municipal powers just because their jurisdictional flag is displayed in our public buildings.

By co-inky-dink, I happened to post the EO 10834 Title IV flag spec sheet on another thread today. FWIW, here it is again. Don't shoot the messenger:


59 posted on 12/07/2004 8:32:40 PM PST by Eastbound ("Neither a Scrooge nor a Patsy be")
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To: Eastbound
Durn! Forgot to say something.

"The Title IV, USC 1 flag (described in E.O. 10834) is the official flag of our country. It is the civilian flag and has very precise specifications based on ratios relative to hoist and fly."

The President wears two hats. One, as the elected chief executive of our Constitutional Republic, and the other as Commander-in-Chief of the United States Armed Forces. In that the military and the federal government are subservient to We the People, the civilian flag should always be displayed in the superior position.

Someday I'd like to walk in the Oval Office and see that statement confirmed by seeing the Title IV USC I flag of our country displayed in the superior position to the federal/military flag. The former on the left of the President's desk, the latter on the right

74 posted on 12/07/2004 9:21:28 PM PST by Eastbound ("Neither a Scrooge nor a Patsy be")
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