Posted on 12/09/2004 12:52:41 AM PST by ajolympian2004
He doesn't turn his back -- Newman hyped a bit. Watch the tape, he doesn't move -- just sits there, flag off to his right. He can probably see it. Don't hang your hat on Newman's quote -- better to stick to the main issue.
>If he chose simply not to speak, I would suggest tolerance.
>When an elected representative turns his back on the flag,
>IT'S TIME TO GO!
During the Ronald Reagen funeral, *Margaret* *Thatcher* recited the Pledge of Allegiance. That she went beyond tolerance into rivers of respect for a country that is not her own speaks volumes about her character, and what she perceieves this country to be.
>Someone tell me again why citizens of a free country are
>reciting pledges. This is something I would expect in North
>Korea or China.
#13 on the following list...Do away with all loyalty oaths.
The Communists have almost won. Let's hope the God fearing Christians do more than just gather signatures and protest the left.
Time to pray.
EXTENSION OF REMARKS OF HON. A. S. HERLONG, JR. OF FLORIDA IN THE HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES
Thursday, January 10, 1963
Mr. HERLONG. Mr. Speaker, Mrs. Patricia Nordman of De Land, Fla., is an ardent and articulate opponent of communism, and until recently published the De Land Courier, which she dedicated to the purpose of alerting the public to the dangers of communism in America.
At Mrs. Nordman's request, I include in the RECORD, under unanimous consent, the following "Current Communist Goals," which she identifies as an excerpt from "The Naked Communist," by Cleon Skousen:
[From "The Naked Communist," by Cleon Skousen]
CURRENT COMMUNIST GOALS
1. U.S. acceptance of coexistence as the only alternative to atomic war.
2. U.S. willingness to capitulate in preference to engaging in atomic war.
3. Develop the illusion that total disarmament [by] the United States would be a demonstration of moral strength.
4. Permit free trade between all nations regardless of Communist affiliation and regardless of whether or not items could be used for war.
5. Extension of long-term loans to Russia and Soviet satellites.
6. Provide American aid to all nations regardless of Communist domination.
7. Grant recognition of Red China. Admission of Red China to the U.N.
8. Set up East and West Germany as separate states in spite of Khrushchev's promise in 1955 to settle the German question by free elections under supervision of the U.N.
9. Prolong the conferences to ban atomic tests because the United States has agreed to suspend tests as long as negotiations are in progress.
10. Allow all Soviet satellites individual representation in the U.N.
11. Promote the U.N. as the only hope for mankind. If its charter is rewritten, demand that it be set up as a one-world government with its own independent armed forces. (Some Communist leaders believe the world can be taken over as easily by the U.N. as by Moscow. Sometimes these two centers compete with each other as they are now doing in the Congo.)
12. Resist any attempt to outlaw the Communist Party.
13. Do away with all loyalty oaths.
14. Continue giving Russia access to the U.S. Patent Office.
15. Capture one or both of the political parties in the United States.
16. Use technical decisions of the courts to weaken basic American institutions by claiming their activities violate civil rights.
17. Get control of the schools. Use them as transmission belts for socialism and current Communist propaganda. Soften the curriculum. Get control of teachers' associations. Put the party line in textbooks.
18. Gain control of all student newspapers.
19. Use student riots to foment public protests against programs or organizations which are under Communist attack.
20. Infiltrate the press. Get control of book-review assignments, editorial writing, policymaking positions.
21. Gain control of key positions in radio, TV, and motion pictures.
22. Continue discrediting American culture by degrading all forms of artistic expression. An American Communist cell was told to "eliminate all good sculpture from parks and buildings, substitute shapeless, awkward and meaningless forms."
23. Control art critics and directors of art museums. "Our plan is to promote ugliness, repulsive, meaningless art."
24. Eliminate all laws governing obscenity by calling them "censorship" and a violation of free speech and free press.
25. Break down cultural standards of morality by promoting pornography and obscenity in books, magazines, motion pictures, radio, and TV.
26. Present homosexuality, degeneracy and promiscuity as "normal, natural, healthy."
27. Infiltrate the churches and replace revealed religion with "social" religion. Discredit the Bible and emphasize the need for intellectual maturity which does not need a "religious crutch."
28. Eliminate prayer or any phase of religious expression in the schools on the ground that it violates the principle of "separation of church and state."
29. Discredit the American Constitution by calling it inadequate, old-fashioned, out of step with modern needs, a hindrance to cooperation between nations on a worldwide basis.
30. Discredit the American Founding Fathers. Present them as selfish aristocrats who had no concern for the "common man."
31. Belittle all forms of American culture and discourage the teaching of American history on the ground that it was only a minor part of the "big picture." Give more emphasis to Russian history since the Communists took over.
32. Support any socialist movement to give centralized control over any part of the culture--education, social agencies, welfare programs, mental health clinics, etc.
33. Eliminate all laws or procedures which interfere with the operation of the Communist apparatus.
34. Eliminate the House Committee on Un-American Activities.
35. Discredit and eventually dismantle the FBI.
36. Infiltrate and gain control of more unions.
37. Infiltrate and gain control of big business.
38. Transfer some of the powers of arrest from the police to social agencies. Treat all behavioral problems as psychiatric disorders which no one but psychiatrists can understand [or treat].
39. Dominate the psychiatric profession and use mental health laws as a means of gaining coercive control over those who oppose Communist goals.
40. Discredit the family as an institution. Encourage promiscuity and easy divorce.
41. Emphasize the need to raise children away from the negative influence of parents. Attribute prejudices, mental blocks and retarding of children to suppressive influence of parents.
42. Create the impression that violence and insurrection are legitimate aspects of the American tradition; that students and special-interest groups should rise up and use ["]united force["] to solve economic, political or social problems.
43. Overthrow all colonial governments before native populations are ready for self-government.
44. Internationalize the Panama Canal.
45. Repeal the Connally reservation so the United States cannot prevent the World Court from seizing jurisdiction [over domestic problems. Give the World Court jurisdiction] over nations and individuals alike.
> [I see this as very similar to that community in Georgia
>where gun ownership is mandatory]
Wow. Is the crime rate as low as I think it is? What county is that?
Rocky Mountain News
URL: http://www.rockymountainnews.com/drmn/state/article/0,1299,DRMN_21_3507014,00.html
Estes Park Trustee David Habecker, who refuses to recite the Pledge of Allegiance at town meetings, on Friday sued his fellow town officials and a committee seeking to recall him.
The lawsuit asks a federal judge to stop the recall effort on the grounds that Habecker has a First Amendment right not to recite the pledge, for both freedom of speech and freedom of religion reasons. His lawsuit calls the phrase "under God" in the pledge a government establishment of religion in violation of the U.S. Constitution.
The lawsuit also asks a judge to stop the recitation of the pledge during board of trustees meetings, a practice that began in mid-2004, Habecker said.
Estes Park Town Attorney Greg White said he had not seen the lawsuit and could not comment.
Habecker, 59, and his wife have lived in Estes Park since 1977.
"He is opposed to the phrase 'under God' not only because it violates his religious convictions, but also because he conscientiously believes the phrase is at odds with our constitutional system of secular government," his lawsuit said.
A fellow town trustee has called Habecker "unpatriotic." The recall committee has accused him of unethically hiding his views on the pledge from voters during the 2002 town election. The lawsuit said the pledge wasn't being recited at meetings at the time and thus was not an issue.
Copyright 2005, Rocky Mountain News. All Rights Reserved.
If I remember correctly it's just outside of Atlanta and has a near zero crime rate. Of course you never hear that mentioned anywhere. Can't have people thinking that evil guns could be goo din any way.
I'm still having trouble remembering the name (begins with a K I think) The banglist crowd would know.
In another thread I stumbled across Freeper Kennesaw and bells went off. Kennesaw GA is the place. And good Kennesaw was kind enough top send links too. Here they are:
http://www.kennesaw.ga.us/CodeOfOrdinances.aspx
http://www.ecclesia.org/truth/kennesaw.html
http://www.freerepublic.com/forum/a3b51f81f0ff9.htm
Some good letters in the Estes Park Trail-Gazette
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