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Pornography Is Anything But A Victimless Crime
Concerned Women For America ^ | Dec. 8, 2004 | Cheri Pierson Yecke

Posted on 12/09/2004 1:16:14 PM PST by Lindykim

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To: Chad Fairbanks

Gimme a break.

Food sustains life you twit.

Food has intrinsic value--yes it can be abused (overeating etc), but it has inherent value and is necessary for us to survive.

Porn does not..it destroys, addicts and tears apart depth of connection between humans and that most essential component--empathy. Instead, breeding mysoginy and the opposite of connection--expoitation. And a perfect platform for a coarse, cynical world. It's ripping us apart now, right now.

Go back to your seedy appetite--aren't you missing some porn time?


61 posted on 12/09/2004 1:49:29 PM PST by dascallie
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To: Chad Fairbanks

Now all we need is to find a story about an African tribe that worships Salma Hayek's breasts...


62 posted on 12/09/2004 1:49:42 PM PST by TheBigB (I sure could go for a charbroiled hamburger sammich and some french fried potatoes!)
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To: Sam the Sham

"Local obscenity laws banned porn in most of the country 30 years ago but I don't recall it being any police state."

Those laws ATTEMPTED to ban porn. They never banned a darned thing. No, it wasn't a police state. The cops were watching those flickering 8mm porn movies at their weekly smokers, right alongside the fraternal orders and other gatherings of adult males.

Porn has been with us as long as we have been on this planet. It's not going anywhere.


63 posted on 12/09/2004 1:49:48 PM PST by MineralMan (godless atheist)
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To: Lindykim

isnt there a rule about porn threads requiring pics? maybe I'm confused.


64 posted on 12/09/2004 1:50:12 PM PST by isom35
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To: Pyro7480
"I think almost all FReepers are concerned with the threat of Islam to our civilization, and are willing to empower our government to defend us against that threat. However, sexual permissiveness in all of its manifestations also threatens our civilization, but the personal freedom argument always seems to "shut people up" on this."

They're the same so far as I'm concerned. If someone wants to throw a rug down and pray toward Mecca, whatever. If that someone then decides to strap a bomb to his chest or hijack an airplane, then I've got a problem with him, and he needs to either be arrested or (failing that) killed.

If someone wants to put on the latest Jenna DVD and spend a quiet night at home alone with her, whatever. If that someone then decides to go out and try to rape women, then I've got a problem with him and he needs to either be arrested or killed.
65 posted on 12/09/2004 1:50:21 PM PST by NJ_gent (Conservatism begins at home. Security begins at the border. Please, someone, secure our borders.)
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To: Nightshift

poing


66 posted on 12/09/2004 1:50:27 PM PST by tutstar ( <{{--->< http://ripe4change.4-all.org Violations of Florida Statutes ongoing!)
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To: Rakkasan1
Berkowitz and I have nearly the same mazel. He learned how to lie, I learned how to be truthful. That's taking a lot of "cold showers" -- facing up to truth isn't easy.
67 posted on 12/09/2004 1:50:56 PM PST by bvw
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To: Lindykim

You people never stop do you? Now it's a whacko theory that Victoria's Secret was the impetus that led to the death of a coed at the hands of a repeat sex offender. Blame anyone but the criminal I guess.


68 posted on 12/09/2004 1:51:04 PM PST by Melas
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To: Modernman

You oppose self-control and, therefore, you will be controlled.


69 posted on 12/09/2004 1:51:55 PM PST by Innisfree
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To: gdani
"Obscenity", as vaguely defined as it is, is still illegal.

The DOJ still prosecutes even 'simple' obscenity (consensual adult porn that is well outside of the porn mainstream)

70 posted on 12/09/2004 1:51:56 PM PST by Modernman (Beer is proof that God loves us and wants us to be happy. --Benjamin Franklin)
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To: Lindykim

The major grouse I hear from women about porn is it sets unrealistic expectations, perpetuates ridiculous myths and adds even more to sexual discontent between the genders.

IOW, a man hooked on porn will often be extremely disappointed in most, if not all of the RL females he encounters/marrys. And will usually take it out on her for being at fault (difficult, demanding, slow, imperfect), and then return to porn for satisfaction with the 'perfect, no fuss, no effort' woman.

Knowaddamean Vern?


71 posted on 12/09/2004 1:51:57 PM PST by najida (Aunt to Miss Emily Ann- Cutest Baby in the World.)
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To: Chad Fairbanks
Chad!

Have you been eating the BAD cookies again?!

72 posted on 12/09/2004 1:52:09 PM PST by Lurking2Long
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To: TChris

Our Founding Fathers did protect our rights to use drugs and other sinful items though. Beer isn't outlawed and only recently was pot. I don't see porn to be much different. A few people chose to use them to get through their lives.

As long as it doesn't get in the way of everyone else's lives, I think that's exactly what our Founding Fathers provided us with. A Constitution that protects our rights to be human. We can drink under it and cary a gun, we can surely enjoy a few pictures of naked people every once in a while.


73 posted on 12/09/2004 1:52:33 PM PST by MacDorcha
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To: dascallie
Porn does not..it destroys, addicts and tears apart depth of connection between humans and that most essential component--empathy. Instead, breeding mysoginy

Actually, its radical feminism that breed my misogyny. Its only nekkid women that swing me back to neutral on the issue.

74 posted on 12/09/2004 1:52:49 PM PST by AdamSelene235
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To: mike182d

Yes, attractive women are evil. Victoria's Secret is evil. You should never see your spouse in anything remotely alluring. The horrors.


75 posted on 12/09/2004 1:52:52 PM PST by Melas
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To: HenryLeeII
There is not one "voluptuous" feature about them, except maybe their botox-laden lips.

Obviously you have never seen Laetitia Casta. She about as voluptous as they come.
76 posted on 12/09/2004 1:53:35 PM PST by microgood
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To: Lindykim

I want to see more science behind this, and less cries of 'turpitude'.

The Song of Solomon made it into the Bible somehow, and though I think it falls short of a fisting video, I think there has been little hard science on pornography.

In criminal science, a prediliction for porn fits a profile for certain types of offenders. So does a tendancy toward injuring or killing small animals does.

In these profiles, pornography is an indicator of a problem, and not a cause.

Addiction to porn is well-documented, as is addiction to gambling, internet gaming, video gaming, pursuit of a profession, or any other thing that appeals to core aspects of our self-image and our ego. People become addicted to work, to the detriment of marriages and children's upbringing, but we haven't banned that yet.

I agree that the 1st amendment shouldn't abridge God from textbooks in our schools, and I also believe the answer to porn is don't consume it. Children shouldn't be involved in it, but beyond that, the state should stay out of it.


77 posted on 12/09/2004 1:53:46 PM PST by RinaseaofDs (The problem with socialism is that eventually you run out of other people's money.)
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To: Sam the Sham
"Local obscenity laws banned porn in most of the country 30 years ago but I don't recall it being any police state."

Many of those laws are gone now. Aside from that, I have much less problem with state or local laws than I do with Federal ones that enter this area. For one, I'm a whole lot closer to local and state officials than I am to the folks who stop by the state once every few years to campaign for a few weeks. For another, I can move to another area if laws in my area become intolerable. To escape the grip of Federal law, I'd have to leave the country of my birth and the nation which will always hold my heart. When laws reach a point where folks feel the need to flee the entire country, there's probably something wrong with the laws.
78 posted on 12/09/2004 1:54:33 PM PST by NJ_gent (Conservatism begins at home. Security begins at the border. Please, someone, secure our borders.)
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To: microgood

Say the name, post a pic. Rules. ;-)


79 posted on 12/09/2004 1:54:33 PM PST by TheBigB (I sure could go for a charbroiled hamburger sammich and some french fried potatoes!)
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To: Chad Fairbanks
Porn threads are a dime a dozen. ;0)

And boring too.

80 posted on 12/09/2004 1:54:42 PM PST by NeoCaveman (Harry Reid is an embarrasment to the Senate)
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