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On a roll from Kabul to Baghdad
To the Point News ^ | Dec. 8, 2004 | Jack Wheeler

Posted on 12/09/2004 8:49:06 PM PST by Rennes Templar

I had a chance to visit with Porter Goss after he returned from Afghanistan last week. He was there to make personally sure everything was solidly OK for Dick Cheney and Donald Rumsfeld to attend Karzai’s inaugural in Kabul.

He got the biggest kick when I told him there’s a name in town for what he’s doing to the CIA: Gossification. I got a big thumbs up when I said, “Now we have to make sure Condi gossifies the State Department.”

Then he gave his assessment of how we’re doing in Afghanistan: “Jack, I’m telling you, the place is humming, it’s sizzling. People have so much energy, they are so excited about their future. We have a fantastic success story in the making here, a tremendous victory for America and for the Afghan people. Funny how you never hear about it in the media, huh?”

Yes, big surprise to the both of us. All we hear about is the latest disasters in Iraq, and nothing about Afghanistan any more – because we’re winning. Porter easily read my mind. “You know, Jack, it’s going to be the same in Iraq. We’re winning – and the media can’t stand it that we’re on a roll from Kabul to Baghdad.”

At last, at last – a CIA Director with the balls and brains to fill Bill Casey’s shoes. For Porter well knows that there is no such thing as an insurgency or guerrilla war in Iraq – as if the entire country was embroiled in it. We’ve secured 85% of the country in terms of population. This “insurgency” as the liberal media dishonestly calls it, is confined to the Sunni Arab part of Iraq – and the Sunni Arabs are 15% of Iraqis.

The key, of course, is the alliance between the Kurds and the Shias – and the key to the alliance is the Shia’s Grand Ayatollah, Ali Sistani. The Shias comprise 65% of Iraqis, they revere Sistani, who will not tolerate any delay of the scheduled January 30 elections.

The liberal media can bray all it wants about the “violence” making an election impossible, rogue weasels not yet kicked out by Goss at the CIA can leak an “analysis” to the New York Times on why elections must be “postponed,” Vladimir Putin can lecture Iraqi interim president Allawi on how Iraq cannot hold an election “under foreign occupation,” and it all means nothing. Since Sistani insists on elections with no delays, that is what will happen.

Sistani is a real Shia, not a phony heretic like Iran’s Khomeini and the mullahs in Tehran. Shias form one of the two main branches of Islam (Sunnis form the other – most Arabs are Sunnis), originating as “Shiat Ali” or followers of Mohammed’s son-in-law Ali, married to Mohammed’s daughter, Fatima (Mohammed had no sons). Shias believed the Caliph, or Islamic Pope, should be a descendant of Mohammed, i.e., of Ali and Fatima.

But the Caliphate was seized when the army of Ali’s son, Hussein, was slaughtered at the Battle of Karbala (now a sacred city in Iraq) in 680 AD by rival Sunnis. The line of Imams, or Shia Calpihs, continued until the mysterious disappearance of Al-Askari, the 12th Imam, at age four in 873. Shias refused to believe he died, and he became revered as the Hidden Imam who would some day return to save the world as an Islamic Messiah.

This is why most Shias are “Twelvers” waiting for the return of the 12th Imam, for they deeply believe only he can establish true Islamic law on earth. It is thus an evil heresy to establish a theocracy – a government run by religious leaders – until his return. A mosque-state separation is a fundamental Shia conviction, which is why Iraqi Shias despise the Ayatollahs running Iran as heretics.

Exceptions like “Mookie” al-Sadr are paid stooges of Iran. The reason you haven’t heard much about Mookie lately is because Sistani is holding him under house arrest.

So forget about Iran being the real winner of the January elections. Shia or Sunni, Arabs despise Persians, and Iraqi Shias despise Iranian Shias for pretending Qom in Iran is the Shia Vatican when it should be Najaf in Iraq. Iraqi Shias are not going to be taking orders from Tehran. They believe that before very long, in terms of religious influence, it will be the other way around.

An Islamic country with a majority of Shias who adhere to their tradition of mosque-state separation has thus a pretty good chance of establishing an Islamic democracy – which is what we see coming into being today. Sistani wants to keep his country together. He knows he must bring Sunnis into the power picture, and is reaching out to them.

The result is the exact opposite of the media’s pessimistic portrayal: there is an explosion of enthusiasm and excitement for elections emerging throughout Iraq. The bottom Iraq line is the elections are going to succeed, and the Sunni Islamofascist terrorism is going to wither (in that order). This will greatly disappoint Moscow, Tehran, Paris, and the Ne! w York Times – but not the Iraqi people, including the Sunnis who are coming to despise the Islamofascists in their ranks.

Nothing is guaranteed. The whole place could disintegrate. Democratic freedom could be too intimidating to Arab tribal culture. The same fears were rampant over Afghanistan – and believe me, Afghanistan is far more medieval and tribal than Iraq. Yet we, the US together with the Afghans, are succeeding. The odds now are distinctly in our favor for succeeding in Iraq.

So I agreed with Porter, that we’re on a roll from Kabul to Baghdad. Did that imply, to complete the mission, we need to be next on a roll in the country that lies between Afghanistan and Iraq? He brushed that one aside with a wag of his finger: “Well, if Afghanistan and Iraq are two slices of bread, let’s just say Iran must feel like it’s inside an American sandwich.”


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Keep rollin'! D*#mn media.
1 posted on 12/09/2004 8:49:06 PM PST by Rennes Templar
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To: Rennes Templar
Roger that.

The MSM couldn't die soon enough.

2 posted on 12/09/2004 8:59:40 PM PST by Mad_Tom_Rackham (Time to let slip the dogs...)
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To: Rennes Templar
The liberal media can bray all it wants about the “violence” making an election impossible, rogue weasels not yet kicked out by Goss at the CIA can leak an “analysis” to the New York Times on why elections must be “postponed,” Vladimir Putin can lecture Iraqi interim president Allawi on how Iraq cannot hold an election “under foreign occupation,” and it all means nothing. Since Sistani insists on elections with no delays, that is what will happen.

Earlier today I heard a proposal to spread the elections out over a week or two, everybody in one town votes on same day, but not all towns vote any given day.

This makes a GREAT deal of sense. By doing that, an absolutely MASSIVE Iraqi and Coalition Military presense can move from place to place and prevent disruption of the election and protect the polling places.

Gossify THAT!.

3 posted on 12/09/2004 9:00:57 PM PST by konaice
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To: Rennes Templar

Anyone have any background on this Jack Wheeler? I really like the tone of this article.


4 posted on 12/09/2004 9:01:20 PM PST by elli1
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To: Rennes Templar

Great article.

I am from Massachusetts, and I have a new car with a big huge decal on the rear window SWIFT BOAT VETS FOR TRUTH-STOP KERRY'S FRAUD.

I am filling my gas yesterday, and this guy comes up to me and comments on the sticker, we begin talking, and when I notice his sticker, it was the 101st Airborne. He mentioned that he just returned from a year in Afghanistan as a medic (He gave me his card, says he is an orthopedic PA).

He gets pissed off watching the news and reading the papers. He said it is nothing (with his emphasis) like it is being portrayed in the media.

Funny how you hear nothing now about Afghanistan anyway, now. Must really be doing well!


5 posted on 12/09/2004 9:07:45 PM PST by rlmorel
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To: Rennes Templar

Bump


6 posted on 12/09/2004 9:09:46 PM PST by agincourt1415 (Hic Fructus Virtutis)
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To: konaice
I just received a brief from an EOD operator that just came back from Iraq. His perspective was that the terrorist and baathists are confined to a few areas. I wonder if it wouldn't be easier to provide election security in those areas for one day and allow the Iraqis to secure the polling places in the more peaceful end of the country.

If you spread the election over a period of weeks I would be afraid the terrorists would start a travelling road show following the elections.

Not trying to argue, just start a discussion (unlike what happens over at DU.)

7 posted on 12/09/2004 9:27:17 PM PST by USNBandit (Florida military absentee voter number 537.)
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To: USNBandit

That too might work, but when you close the Baghdad-Tikrit Highway for the elections, the traveling around will get harder.

You are correct that some areas (Kurds) won't need any security at all, and I rather suspect the Brits have things well in hand in the south as well.


8 posted on 12/09/2004 9:35:50 PM PST by konaice
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To: konaice
I just received a brief from an EOD operator

EOD???

Explosive Ordinance Delivery?
Exasperated Officer of the Day
I give up... Are you playing "How to keep a turkey in suspense?

9 posted on 12/09/2004 9:39:26 PM PST by konaice
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To: konaice

Explosive Ordnance Disposal. They blow up old ammo dumps, clear out boobytraps in terrorist hideouts, and play with IEDs. An amazing group of guys with some truly amazing stories.


10 posted on 12/09/2004 9:43:52 PM PST by USNBandit (Florida military absentee voter number 537.)
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To: USNBandit

EOD... Well I just hope they keep all thier fingers and toes...

I notice if footage of the munitions captured in Faluja that a lot of the mortar rounds look hopelessy filthy, like they have been dug up out of dumps we bypassed or never knew about.

Compared to the pristine rounds I've seen our guys dropping in the tubes they look like leftovers from the first world war.

Your buddy has a LOT more work to do to get that country safe to walk around in. Good luck to him.


11 posted on 12/09/2004 9:48:09 PM PST by konaice
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To: elli1

He's been around for a long time; he was a strong advocate of roll back against the Soviets and of arming insurgents to fight them every where they were extending their empire. I remember a new letter he printed about 25 years ago. He was always spot on.


12 posted on 12/09/2004 10:07:02 PM PST by elhombrelibre (Liberalism is proof that intelligent people can ignore as much as the ignorant.)
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To: elli1



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13 posted on 12/09/2004 10:11:07 PM PST by elhombrelibre (Liberalism is proof that intelligent people can ignore as much as the ignorant.)
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To: elli1
Here's Wheelers NewsMax bio
14 posted on 12/09/2004 10:11:56 PM PST by Cutterjohnmhb
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To: Rennes Templar

Shall we call Condi's clean up action at the State Department "Condification"?


15 posted on 12/09/2004 10:20:37 PM PST by freedom4me (Bush's win was the cake. Tom Daschle's defeat was the icing)
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To: Rennes Templar

"This is why most Shias are “Twelvers” waiting for the return of the 12th Imam, for they deeply believe only he can establish true Islamic law on earth. It is thus an evil heresy to establish a theocracy – a government run by religious leaders – until his return."

Very interesting. If this is truly the case. Then it would appear perhaps many options are open after the election takes place. As someone else asked, I wonder what credentials this Wheller has.
For as I read a short history of various forms of the Twelvers at globalsecurity.com for instance....
http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/intro/islam-ithna-ashari2.htm

I think what this Wheller wrote is not quite accurate as far as how their believe system is set up regarding governess.
If you take the trouble to go to above site, and spend a few minutes reading, you too may walk away with a similiar feeling that Wheller may be oversimplyfing what position the Iraqi Akhbari Shiism (Iraqi's version of the Twelvers) actually hold. In short, what he would lead us to believe may really not be the case. Obviously we do not know where his source information regarding the Akhbari Shiism stems from. But I hope what he says over all in this article is based on prevailing opinions of experts in the CIA etc..


16 posted on 12/09/2004 10:25:01 PM PST by Marine_Uncle
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To: Rennes Templar

Excellent article, thanks for posting. I'm holding my breath - we're so close to pulling this thing off that it's breathtaking anyway. Seismic forces in the Middle East are about to move, and the violence we see from the terrorists is a last, desperate effort to prevent it. I don't think that's possible now.


17 posted on 12/09/2004 10:40:27 PM PST by Billthedrill
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To: Rennes Templar
“Well, if Afghanistan and Iraq are two slices of bread, let’s just say Iran must feel like it’s inside an American sandwich.”

I like Mr. Goss's style.

18 posted on 12/10/2004 3:14:33 AM PST by texasflower (Liberty can change habits. ~ President George W. Bush 10/08/04)
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To: Cutterjohnmhb; elhombrelibre

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19 posted on 12/10/2004 5:12:29 AM PST by elli1
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