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1 posted on 12/12/2004 6:43:28 AM PST by stm
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Second, the debt of slavery has already been paid through a major war. For all those in failing public schools, I am referring to the Civil War, where many, many whites died so blacks could be free.

My family lost two sons, 19 and 20, fighting for the Union Army.

I've had discussions many times with black and white friends and associates talking about civil rights, voting rights, affirmative action and reparations.

I trump them at every conclusion.

2 posted on 12/12/2004 6:52:11 AM PST by CROSSHIGHWAYMAN (NO PRISONERS!!)
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Let's see, if reparations are to be legitimate, they need to come from those who owend slaves, right?

So who owned slaves? Well, virtually all of today's blacks who are of mixed blood (which is some 90% of Afro-Americans) are decendents of slave holders. Therefore, if anyone owe reparations, it's blacks to blacks; not me whose grandparents came from the Old Sod.


5 posted on 12/12/2004 6:58:24 AM PST by Pittsburg Phil
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From the day I was born until the present day I have never owned a slave or benefited from slavery or participated in anything that oppressed blacks. I have always believed in equality of opportunity for all people and have publicly advocated that many times. There will be no way that a single cent of mine is going to pay for reparations.

NO *@&#!$& WAY !!!


7 posted on 12/12/2004 7:23:51 AM PST by spinestein (Intolerance will not be tolerated !)
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There was aCivi War fought and many men died to set the Black Man Free. Will there be another Civi War to force payment to Blacks who's relatives may or may not have been slaves. I'mn not paying any and if these politicians think I will, I won't. I've been seeing red over a lot of crap that's going on now and this is just one more stone added to the burden.

It AIN"T gonna happen! Besides all this Jese Jackson and Conyers people are Socialit, bent on undermining the Constitution with their Socialist Agendas. We are at WAR now people, time to get it through your heads
open up your eyes!


8 posted on 12/12/2004 7:24:22 AM PST by 26lemoncharlie (Defending America)
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Great article. Thanks for posting stm.


11 posted on 12/12/2004 7:47:41 AM PST by kimosabe31
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Shouldn't JJ be asking for reparations from the Africans who sold the slaves to the white man? Surely nobody believes that some white guys chased down a bunch of black guys and actually caught them? Yeah, I think reparations should come from Africans. And they should pay all of us for the residual trauma this has caused our nation.

See, you can make a case for just about anything these days. Stop the madness!!
12 posted on 12/12/2004 8:23:25 AM PST by truthluva
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As my father in law always said, "If it were not for graft; we would not be paying these huge tax bills."


13 posted on 12/12/2004 8:34:18 AM PST by freekitty
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I can't wait for Reverend Peterson to finally make the MSM outlets when they can no longer deny the failure of their chosen 'black leaders' or the popular rejection of liberal orthodoxy in their message.

Rev. Peterson hits a few weak points on the perpetual slavery hobby horse of the Left, but I have a few more...

1. America became a sovereign nation in 1789 after nearly 300 years of European colonial rule. The American founders knew the slavery issue was devisive and they also knew it would be solved sooner or later. The principles in the Constitution were widely known to be universal but slavery itself as an issue was trimmed for the sake of preserving the fragile unity of the new nation. The point being that most of the founders knew it would be addressed and solved because they already accepted the ideals of universal humanity. Some actually freed their slaves, educated them and even left them an inheritance. This was a highly radical position for the educated elite of ANY Western nation, but it definitely marks America as the era's global leader in enlightenment and human dignity.

2. In 1865, the Civil War was over and the issue of slavery was finally settled on our shores. In the span of 76 years, a fledgling nation fought its greatest war, against itself, at a cost of a half million lives for the sake of the universal ideals contained in the founding documents. This death toll, alone, exceeds anything any other nation has ever done, in any way, to curtail slavery. Additionally, the fact the America dealt properly with this evil in the very short span of a single man's life speaks volumes about the basic justice of America. Europe, you'll recall practiced slavery for hundreds of years prior to our Civil War and nearly a century after we had settled the issue.

3. As we discuss the issue of slavery, it is important to realize that slavery was, and still IS, pandemic in Africa. It is, in fact, an ongoing evil with people being bought and sold under conditions even more primitive than the antebellum South. Alex Haley notwithstanding, many blacks are far crueler to one another than America ever has been.

4. It should be remembered that the post-war terrorizing of Southern blacks through agents like the KKK, Jim Crow laws, lynchings and the like, were inventions and tools of the DEMOCRATIC PARTY. Only after they gained the keys to the treasury in 1932 did they begin the formal shift from a reactionary mob mentality to using mob mentality to force a Marxian reordering of our society.

5. If they were an independent nation, it has been pointed out that American blacks would be the seventh richest nation on earth.

6. American Blacks enjoy greater economic mobility than any other nation where people of African ancestry reside. Even if poor, American Blacks (and any other poor folks) have the complete right to medical treatment at any emergency room in the nation - they cannot be denied by law. They have access to Medicaid, welfare, AFDC, Section 8 housing, food stamps, childcare programs, prenatal care, free school lunch programs and a range of other Federal programs.

7. American poor, including Blacks, are in no danger of starving. In fact, the most obese segments of our society are the lower classes. The problem is too many calories. For the poor around the world, this state of affairs would be a luxury. In addition, American poor, often as not, have an automobile, color television and air conditioning. By no standards that I know can we honestly talk about poverty this country with anything close to a straight face.

Well, that's a few of the additional points I use to slap the spit out of the liberals that I know. Shuts 'em up just fine.


14 posted on 12/12/2004 8:44:23 AM PST by WorkingClassFilth (From Ku Klux Klan to the modern era of the Koo Kleft Klan...the true RAT legacy.)
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