[rcocean]

I'm not saying Goldwater was on the wrong side or wasn't right on the big issues of the 60's or didn't have good speech writers.

But when it came to judging people and events, running a political campaign, keeping ones emotions in check, etc. - the man was a dummy.

He meant well, he surrounded himself at times with good smart people, but he was himself a weak sister.

[gusopol3]

if you think Bush vs. MSM, Michael Moore, Rather and Soros was tough, you should have been there for Goldwater against "the consensus." As to the speech, I'm not referring to the phraseology , the province of the speech writers-- I'm talking about the content and the guts and vision to elucidate it.